LeftWinger

Oh, my bad, I am all wrong about things... Yay Mule! I should have known you would be the greatest Red Wing Ever! Keep up the great work!

Ya, rank him right up there with Gretzky, Lemieux, Yzerman, Fedorov, Hull, Selanne, Bure, Robitaille....sure he is one of the best EVER! Why did I not see that before!?!? Not until he is off this team....he was chosen over Hossa to lead this team as it's scorer. So, whats next a warning about talking about a Red Wings player in the GDT? He sucks and if this is the only thread I am allowed to speak of him in, I am going to express my displeasure every chance I get! Not unless I will get a warning about not liking a Red Wing player....

Come on saviour! You are the best in the NHL, time for you to win this for us! LOL, this team is in huge trouble...3-1...tee hee...I hope Holland gets fired when he refuses to trade Franzie just because he scores a goal now and then... give me a player that makes $500,000 and gives 100% and has heart over Franzie's goal every 10 games, then is lazy the other 9 and his stupid ass lifetime contract....

OooOoOoOOoO Franzen scored a goal, now he is Omnipotent! He is a Sniper! He is our Saviour! He still sucks, he is still lazy and he still is not better than Hossa or Perry...even Scott Parker scored a goal once in awhile...

My gramma could have scored that gimme goal...let me know when he does something that means something. He should be playing with his little buddy Hudler on Calgary...

I won't get started, we all know who is a better player....come see me when Franzie scores 50 goals and wins the Hart Trophy....

i could have scored that...

meh, I still hate him and he needs to be traded...

....you mean another one of those nights.... Rare is the game, the Wings play well. This team sucks....MAJOR changes are needed. Holland I am calling you out! Go ahead and draft more Kindl's and trade for more Quincey's and keep more Franzen's.....you ******* suck!

Hey Franzie, way to stand up for your Captain....

boy does Franzen suck...

Hey the Wings are here to play! Same group of slugs out there taking up a roster spot....Q, Cleary, Franzen, GD Jimmy cannot control a rebound to save his life! On the other side of the coin, Tootoo, Brunner, Datsyuk, Lashoff and Huskins playing solid....White looks ok after missing a few games...Z is trying, but Franzen brings down everyone he plays with...Is Emmerton even out there? Can't tell....

This is becoming stupid....may as well put him on LTIR for the season and let him come back in September fully healed...remove him from the roster and get someone here to take his place for the time being...

Holy Shiite! That would be so cool! They have to hook up a horn as well! Could you imagine? Wow!

Nah, no biggie, sometimes I do lose track of my posts...I would love for everyone the Holland drafts to pan out. I;d love for Kindl to become what he was touted as, but it doesn't look like it. Did I read that Lashoff was playing tonight? Cool! I like Lashoff, I know he isn't the greatest or that much better than Q, but I just have a hard time seeing a guy get $3.75M and playing worse than a guy making less than $1M... He has for sure earned a spot here, as long as some folks find their way out of here....

I hope you are right...I sure cannot wait for him to get back....but at the risk of derailing the subject, I think we should stick the the Game Day talk in this thread... I hope the Wings win tonight! Go Wings Go! Sorry it was in a different thread http://www.letsgowings.com/forums/topic/72442-calle-jarnkrok-does-he-have-a-chance-to-make-next-seasons-team/page-5 and you will see that it wasn't edited to add the word Kitchner...sometimes I lose track of where I am talking....

Inginla will score a lot, to impress maybe one of his choice of teams at the deadline...Hmmmm....

Really? Wow, I had no idea that Kindl played for Kitchner, despite the fact that I mentioned he did.... ...to debunk your attempt to slap me, Kindl was in his first season at Kitchner when he was drafted by Detroit, he was obviously scouted while playing over in the Czech league prior to also being watched in the OHL. Bottom line is, Holland fails more than he suceeds with his Euro picks. It shows throughout his draft history. He drafted Kindl because of his European scouts who said something good about him, but he was by far NOT the best available defender at #19 that year...Holland just loves his Euro's and now it is showing how good (or bad) his picks actually are...You cannot go to that well too many times, there are only so many Datsyuk's and Zetterberg's out there, sometimes you got to stop trying to shock the world and draft the corrrect players...Also he drafts players that he knows are going to sit in the minors until they expire and that needs to stop.He needs to draft players that will be in the NHL within two years not 5 or 6...ESPECIALLY his 1st round picks... I do realize he was ranked pretty high in the ISS rankings, that is fine. But fast forward to today, he stinks, its time to let him go....I just stick to my guns by saying I didn't like the pick and I have maintained it throughout the last 7 years and he stinks...just my opinion of him back then and today. Anyhow on topic, I hope the Wings win tonight and I do hope Piddler gets his clock cleaned. Like I said, even if he comes here and scores all the goals, I still dont like him, but good for him, he needed to move on to get better and a fresh start. He sucked here, so does Franzie, so he needs to move on too for a fresh start...I may not be a scout (or maybe I am ) or a GM, but I am a pretty good judge of talent and watch a lot of young kids play hockey. There are a lot of us in this forum that can judge talent and could do a very good job as a scout in the NHL...the job is not that hard...

I think they look pretty cool...and I agree for that same night the Wings should wear a Cougars or Falcons setup...

I agree the draft is a gamble, and nobodyhas a crystal ball or those guys you listed would have gone top 10, but yes Niskanen and even Vlasic would have been much better picks, they are both over 6' and 200lbs. and are also puck moving defensemen. Holland just had his boner for Europeans and was never going to take a NA kid. That is why I am afraid if the Wings get a #17 or #18 pick, that we will see another garbage Euro even if Ryan Pulock is available. If we could find the draft day thread from 2005 somehow, you would see how sour I was when Holland drafted Kindl and he has proven me correct and Holland to be a fool that year. Sure he drafted Abby and Helm that same year, but Abby is what he is and Helm is proving more to be a china doll than what it seemed he would turn into...Not saying Abby or Helm were bad picks, but Kindl was. Holland isn't the drafting genius everyone thinks he is... edit: You say looing back he would have loved to draft James Neal, well guess what, James Neal was is his own backyard in Plymouth so Holland should have been all over him, yet he chose to listen to his omnipotent European scouts. Well, I sure wish he would stop doing that and start looking locally for talent, he has missed out on so much right in his own state let alone just in North America...BTW Yandle went in the 4th round that draft, again, no crystal ball, but plenty of BETTER talent in NA when that #19 pick came up...what a waste. Holland decide that Ritola would be better than Yandle or even he could have picked up Hjalmarsson in that same round...Holland just isn't the great and powerful, he is more like the man behind the curtain...

Well, I for one was never excited for Kindl (who is Czech BTW) to come up here. He seemed to have a bit of a snarl in Kitchner, yet lost it in GR and wouldn't even think to drop the gloves in the NHL. I never liked him from the get-go, but maybe he is a product of Ken Holland keeping the younsters in the minors too long. Maybe if he was given a chance, lets say around 2006-07, maybe thinkgs would have been different. That is why I say, get these kids going now before they expire in the minors. There is no better time that right now....we all agree Q is garbage, sit him, waive him, trade him, cut him, whatever, give the kids a shot just like Lashoff got and he is proving that the kids are ready...for the money, Lashoff is way better than Q.

I don't care if Piddler gets 100 goals, I stil am SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO glad he is off this team. Since there would be no love lost between the two (I cannot expect a Kronwalling (especially since he seems afraid to hit anymore)) but I would LOVE LOVE LOVE to see Tootoo ram Piddler through the boards...Nice to see Eva is still suffering from Piddler love...poor, poor Eva...

I have said this for years and have said it over and over....he has been given ample opportunity to crack the top 6 D...he can't even do it with all these injuries, he will never do it. I know I am not the only one to dislike him, but I have said since day one he was a waste of a draft pick. Could have had made a much better draft pick. Even though a draft is a gamble, but nobody understood why Kindl was taken so high, except that they figured Holland was being Holland and found a diamond...Sorry, but Holland screwed the pooch with Kindl....bye bye Jakub, wish I could say it was nice to know you!

Lashoff is better than Quincey, but he is here now, so that is moot. I think Sproul and or Ouellet can be better than Q if given the opportunity...Q is hot garbage, it wouldn't take much to be a better. I still think that Tatar and Nyquist will be trade bait come deadline, but agree with you on the Cleary point. You cannot trade Cleary, so he only get's bumped if someone comes up and plays out of his mind. I hope Tatar can do that, but he is a different type of player. Hopefully he come up and gets on fire, it would help us and/or increase his trade value. I would love for anyone to come in and bump Franzie's dumb ass out of the lineup...

Suter is better than what he looks, but he cannot carry a team of minor league defensemen... With all our injuries he may have been struggling here as well, but I still wish he was in Red and White instead of Green and Ivory.