LeftWinger

Nyquist - Datsyuk - Filppula Brunner - Zetterberg - Tootoo Top 6....done.

Ya kip, Franzen looked awesome on that shift......derp derp Let me take the puck of Datsyuk's stick...derp derp doo..

Goalie coach in West Michigan

Go Wings! Go Holland! Go Franzen! Go Quincey! Go Team! Holland needs make a deal right now....he has got to be seeing the same garbage we are seeing, right?

Still has his heart in Russia...

....and Cola out.

...and Detroit blow a lead again....things are just like it has been the last few years!

Come on Franzen, show us what you are made of! Let's go Franzen! Let's Go Franzen! Let's Go Franzen!

Jones

Yes, I prefer he not be in a Red Wings sweater....he did not screen anyone on the first goal, he was jockying for position and just happened to be there. The only thing that in front of the goalie was his skate. The second goal, my gramma could have made that pass... As much as my dislike for him may be obnoxious in your mind (and just because you say its absurd, that is your opinion,) your constant defending of him and putting him on a pedestal is equally obnoxious....Face it, Franzen is horrible and was a mistake...

Franzen is NOT playing great...

Right, but when Hossa was wanting to sign here, Holland was still trying to sign Hudler that summer before he bolted for Russia. So his intentions were to sign Franzen and Hudler that summer... "We love what Anthony Stewart brings to a team, and are in definite need to get bigger and tougher to play against, Anthony would provide that two-fold! Um....but in the end, we like Emmerton and Mursak on our team, so we had to pass..."

as a matter of fact, Holland would be an absolute jack ass not to claim this guy....6-3 230lbs who can also score 20+ points? It's a no brainer. Holland WTF are you waiting for? This should already be done! as a matter of fact I would have already claimed Adam Pardy as well, and boot Kindl to the curb.

ACtually since there are a few teams with 0 points, I think the tie breaker is goals scored and well......0 for us! Of course if we are the first ones to have a crack at him, it's been awhile since he has been on waivers and well, if Holland was first, he must have said no thanks....idiot. Oh, but I bet he nabs Lilja.

I have always been a huge critic of Holland's ( a lot of negative.) This past summer I really gave him credit for doing his best to get the Olsen twins here, or at least Suter, and I do love the draft picks along with picking up Jordin Tootoo. I am and always will be on the fence with Holland though. He has made some real questionable deals (letting Hossa go, 1st round for Quincey) recently and has historically drafted softer players over the glaring needs of our team. Again, I give him a B+ for this summer, it's just too bad that the Olsen twins family's didn't come from Michigan.

I would settle for just Perry. He would instantly be the sniper/power forward that Datsyuk needs! But ya, could you imagine the line of Getzlaf - Datsyuk - Perry? Almost as good as my fantasy line of Ryan - Datsyuk - Perry.

Holland should be all over this, NOW! Especially with Bert out and Mursak losing his last chance at remaining on this team. Claim Stewart, waive Mursak and trade Emmerton, make Miller and Eaves your rotating forwards.

...and before anyone mentions the salaries, Hossa only makes $1.3M more than Franzen's cap hit. So, no, Hossa is hardly way more expensive than Franzen. This debate will never be over, but only when Holland dumps Franzen and somehow gets Hossa back.

2009-2010: Hossa 15 points Franzen 18 points 2010-2011: Hossa 6 points Franzen 3 points 2011-2012: Hossa 0 points Franzen 1 point Hell even when Franzen had is great 2008 he had 18 points to Hossa's 26 points, the year they played together Hossa had 15 points to Franzen's 23 (a year in which Hossa was injured) so I would say playoffs they are pretty fricken even, so I am giving the win to Hossa because of his regular season dominance of Franzen...again, Franzen will NEVER score 40 goals here in Detroit. If nobody can look back and admit that Holland made a huge error in not keeping Hossa and opting for Franzen and Hudler, then you really need to take another look.... Just to add to this, since Hossa played here and left he has 261 points in 279 games 93% scoring. Franzen in the same time period, 191 in 252 games 75% scoring. In that sme time period, Franzen is a +49 and Hossa is a +81...we can go on forever... Hands down Hossa is far greater than Franzen ad Holland screwed the pooch on that one.

I don't know when you became a Wings fan, or when you joined this forum. But during that off season, I can guarantee than this forum was at least 50-50 on whether to keep Franzen or Hossa. So it's not just now everyone is saying we want Hossa, it's been this way and has been debated back and forth since the day Marian signed with Chicago. Also, you like to say Hossa had a disappearing act in 2009 playoffs, well, if you watched and were a fan back then, you'd know that he was seriously injured in those playoffs and missed half the next season due to surgery on that injury. I wouldn't call it a disappearing act rather an ill-timed injury. Blaming Hossa for the 2009 loss is a copout. Hossa has been and always will be better than Franzen, and it is one of the worst mistakes Holland has made. The day he signed Hossa his team got better, and ever since he let him go, the team has gotten worse and worse...Since Holland couldn't or wouldn't address the issues sooner, you are now seeing him scramble to try to patch holes that he knew was coming and didn't have a plan for...ie giving up a 1st round pick for Quincey who isn't worth a 4th round pick...

I would prefer Ouellet or Sproul, but if Lashoff is ready, anything would be an upgrade of Quincey's crappy ass...

"We're comfortable with keeping Franzen, even though Marian was willing to take a huge discount to stay, we like our chances with Johan and Jiri..."

Marian Hossa has 4 goals in 2 games.....just saying.

Ya, my bad, when I click on UFA finder on capgeek, that list comes up. Didn't mean to excite anyone...

In other news, a couple of UFA's this summer could be attractive... Phaneuf, Latang, Gilbert, Bouwmeester, Orpik, Hjalmarsson, Morris and of course the oft mentioned Pitkanen.... ANY of these guys I would rather have than Quincey, Kindl and Big E.