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From the looks of tonights game, we need both...maybe someone to get a shot would help too?

Here is the "It's only December guys" guy....thanks for stopping in. Unfortunately, in the short 48 game season, every game counts, especially divisional. It's not that the Wings cant turn it around come game 20, but they are playing like a Pee Wee team out there. And so far, there seems to be no heart. Again, Franzen, Quincey, Mursak....no need to be out there...they are taking up space...

Not me....I complained when they got him back. Well at least what they paid for him. Problem is, what do we have to take his palce? Bring up Ouellet? Kindl is NOT the answer...

You mean you aren't happy that we traded a 1st round draft pick (#19 overall) for him? Then, instead of letting him sign with someone else and getting a 1st/3rd in return for him, we re-signed him for $3.7M for the next two years? I would have rather traded the 1st round pick for Steve Downie, whom Tampa traded to Colorado for Quincey, then we sent the 1st to Tampa for Quincey....I never defended this guy and he looks like garbage...

unacceptable....very unacceptable. Players that do not belong: Emmerton, Mursak, Franzen, Quincey. The rest of the team is playing like garbage. In reference to an above poster, I am not ok with losing to this team. I don't care if they are the best in the West. Right now, the Wings aren't even playing with the best team. I am not even going to blame it on rust. The Blues look mid season form, Red Wings look like soft Euros...

All I know is Ken said that he asked him how he wants it pronounced and he said he told him Brunner like runner...sorry, I am just going by what Brunner said, maybe all Swiss names don't have the same pronunciation....

Looks beautiful! But as soon as one is available, you'll have to get a #25 Emmerton jersey...looks awesome though! Nice job! Wings 6-2

Forget the trade ideas, Holland should offer him a contract that Dallas could never match!

Ya, Emmerton stinks and if he is centering a line with Tootoo, that will suck. Tootoo needs to play with Abby. At least its temporary.

Trade Emmy and Mursak a soon as possible...the Wings have injury depth in GR that can more than fill in (Andersson, Nyquist, Sproul, Ouellet, Mrazek.) They can afford to trade Emmy and Mursak and get a couple mid round picks in return. I too wish Holland would call the Iles about Visnovsky. Although that would bump Kindl out and would make Cola the 7th guy...oh well, nothing personal, just business. How about Kindl, Mursak & Emmy of Visnovsky + pick? edit: Buffalo waived Pardy? I thought they brought him and Ott in to add toughness to the team?

Tah? j/k...but you are mistaken, from his words to Ken Daniels, it is pronounced like runner. Brunner...

Well, if they put all their eggs in the Franzen basket and he performs like usual....they may be in trouble. Franzen needs to step it up and give 100% every game. If Franzen gets on a roll like in 08' then I think the Wings will be ok, at least to make the playoffs... I don't like the guy, but I've seen what he can be capable of, I just hope he does it. Of course if The Gunner takes over as Datsyuk's go to guy, then that is all the better! The question is, Is Franzen capable of 2008 again?

That is true and they probably would have pased on Robitaille as well....but I think that if everything else remained the same and the Wings sign JR instead of Luc, things would have worked out pretty similar...

Speaking of fighter on Defense....Geezus, Mike McKee played in 23 games for Lincoln and has 202 PIMS! He played in 59 games last season with 237 PIMS! I think he is going to eclipse that number this season.... I sure hope he grows enough at Western to earn a spot in Detroit within the next 4-5 years....(or sooner)

I know he is still kicking himself in the ass for picking Philly over Detroit....poor JR. He said that Detroit had the exact same offer and he chose Philly because he felt they had more of a chance to win the Cup....and then Detroit got Hasek. I still like the guy, but he sure made some poor UFA decisions...

Holland? You there?

Nice! I love JR, he tells it like it is!

Some fans will never be satisfied...soft Euro's or tough NA's...what do they want?

I liked this last deadline....and the draft....and all summer long. I forget who it was but they cursed me up and down when suggesting trade Franzen for Morrow....I know Franzen may be worth a bit more than Morrow, but I think with what this team needs is a Morrow type player. Heck it would take less then that is even better! Get Morrow here for sure! He would sure be a help!

I will give them 32 wins. Yet they will have to fight tooth and nail to get a good seed in the playoffs, I just don't want to see them win 40 games and coast around the week or so and be flat in the playoffs...play hard, play hard, play hard...from start to finish. Hopefully it brings us #12!

As a Wings fan you should bleed Redden-White.... Anyhow, Kindl is a bust anyhow. I had that feeling from day 1 and he has done nothing to convince me otherwise....should have just drafted Yandle that year, then there would be no debate about how the hell we are going to acquire him.....Holland blew this 1st round pick, as he did also for trading last years #19 pick to Tampa...Holland is a great GM, but even he makes some glaring mistakes....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6QPW-GiuPg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cUEOir7HYM http://www.youtube.com/user/tootoofights Welcome to Detroit, Jordin, Welcome to Detroit!

Well, don't think anyone came up with this, but after watching the game last night and learning the correct pronunciation of his name (rhymes with runner,) I am officailly going with... Damien "The Gunner" Brunner....

If I recall, most of the same Tootoo haters on here were Drake haters when the Wings signed him. Now they are all like, "he was so important to our 08 Cup!" I am not saying Tootoo will get us a Cup, heck I didn't even say that in 08 about Drake, but you and you and you and even you cannot deny that Tootoo brings a dimension to this team that we haven't had since 2008. Tootoo will not only bring so much energy to this team and the crowd, he will stand up for his superstars and fellow teammates. When Lidstrom got smoked in Colorado, Aaron Downey stepped up, kicked ass, didn't ask any questions, just kicked ass. What happened when Brad Stuart got his jaw broken in Calgary a few years ago? Abby and Ericsson just stood there and looked at the guy who did it. What happened when Corey Perry was beating on Datsyuk so much that enough was enough? Well Datsyuk whooped him, but Pavel cannot be fighting out there, period. What happened when Weber head slammed Zetterberg? What happens everytime Backes takes liberties on Datsyuk? You get my point. With Tootoo here, you can guarantee what is gonna happen the first time someone tries to take out Calder candidate Damien "The Gunner" Brunner. PLUS everyone is forgetting Tootoo is still only 29 (30 Feb. 2,) in the prime of his NHL career and is coming off his best ever offensive performance last season all while playing in a limited 4th line role. People mention Chelios and they way we and he both hated each other. Well, after 10 years of being a Red Wing, I do believe he warmed up to us and us to him very well. As long as Tootoo stays healthy and gets a fair chance from us (unlike Hatcher and Modano did) he will become a fan favorite. I see him playing the rest of his years here in Detroit because that is what players do. They may start their career's somewhere else, but in Detroit they finish their career's. I am on the Tootoo train, I always was from day 1. I loved his intensity in Nashville, his hard work and toughness. I hated him when he played us, but wished that someone on this team had his work ethic and energy. Well now we have him. All aboard, the train has room for everyone, but we are leaving the station soon, express line to the Stanley Cup.

Agree....he has been given tons of chances in his career to make the top 6 defenders. He is not gonna do it again this season. He is done. I also agree that Mursak isn't look so good and haven't heard much about Emmy besides he changed his number. Those three are expendable in my book. Franzen had a couple of attempts, but he isn't "playing" Holmstrom like he is supposed to. His job is to stand in front of the net on the PP. He is trying to do too much... He has a chance to win me over this short season, so far, I am not too impressed. I think Tootoo is playing hard, I am very impressed with Brunner. The "kids" are playing a solid game. I seen a lot of Knuble in the 1st, but haven't heard much in the second. He doesn't look 40, but needs to really impress to beat out Eaves and or Miller. Of course if Nyquist starts in GR and Mursak and Emmy get waived (or traded) Knuble could slip in... All in all, they don't look too bad. They will do better than most people think this short season. Covo looks very solid and looks like he will win the 6th spot from Kindl. Datsyuk - Zetterberg - Brunner could be a top line in scoring this season. That gives Flip the second spot and the Bert - Helm - Cleary line is gonna be a bruiser! Along with Abby-Tootoo combo. I am optimistic about this team! I am with them until the end!