LeftWinger

Are you talking about the Yzerman and Pronger incident? If so you do know that Yzerman undercut Pronger and intentionally hurt Pronger right? At least that is what our buddy cprice says...anyhow... If there was an incident that involved Pronger and Lidstrom then I apologize, but that incident has slipped out of my head (as have many things as I age.)

I still want to see Morrow & Nabokov here for the playoffs...THEN sign Parise and Suter in the offseason. I know it will cost us roster player to get Morrow, but I am not too concerned about that since it won't cost us anyone who is above Hudler on the pecking order. If we could somehow acquire him without losing a roster player then great. That is my hope, but like most are saying, Holland is only gonna get someone if it helps the team. I hope he does.

They are...well except a couple. He is arguably better than Rafalski, plus plays better defense. Ya, hell, our bottom six is what is keeping this team ahead of everyone. It certainly ain't Franzen. He IS playing pretty bad sometimes. I wouldn't mind losing him and Kindl at the deadline. I agree. If yo need a side story to be motivated to win the Cup, then you really aren't that motivated. Problem is, the media attaches stories to teams (in all sports) that are making a Championship run and it usually doesn't get blown up until they have won. I like happy endings and feel good stories, but I prefer the team just be motivated to win it every single year! Hey here is a nice fell-good story that doesn't need a player added to the roster who hasn't won. When the Wings win the Cup or get to the Cup Final, they can use Brad McCrimmon as motivation or Salei or Liv or maybe even Bob Probert. They can win it for their families! That will make a great feel-good fuzzy story if the win, but you aren't gonna hear anything about it if they don't. Just win...period. Give 110% every night, every shift, every second. That's all I ask. Yes I am talking to you Franzen. I do agree that there are some player(s) on this team that mail it in from time to time....

The tix should be open to ALL hockey fans. Just block off the exact same amount for Wings fans and Leafs fans, then the rest are open to all. 36,000 for Wings all in one part of the Stadium, 36,000 for Leafs in a different part of the Stadium and 38,000 for general NHL fans who want to attend. When you order, you are asked which team or neither? Then you are given the choice of certain sections for that team only. That way we have a side with Wings fans and side with Leafs fans, then the ends are filled with random fans. (certainly of which can be Wings and Leafs fans.) Imagine the view from the blimp with all Red on one side of the field and all Blue on the other?

So....what you are saying is that Leafs fans are more well-to-do than Red Wings fans? Just because there will be a mark-up doesn't mean Leafs fans are the only ones who can afford it...I would say 99.999999999% of Wings fans do not live in the City and as a matter of fact, a ton of them live in Oakland County which is one of the wealthiest counties in the Nation....

I know how to fix the powerplay...just pussyfoot around and pass it a hundred times around the perimeter. Oh, and dont shoot it.

The NHL is the worst league for officiating. Its almost too s***ty to watch....

So Franzen WILL be traded in a couple of weeks! AWESOME!!

Clutch better show up tonight...he better dominate. We need our scorers to score, Clutch, The Worm are on the hotstove tonight!

Makes no sense to have very little tickets available if you are not a season ticket holder. There are what 21,000 seats in the Joe? Even if they were all filled by season ticket holders, that still leave about 90,000 tickets available. If you maybe count the season ticket holders from Toronto that would knock about 25,000 more off, leaving approx. 65,000. IF you save half of those for Toronto fans that still leaves us 32,500 tickets...I just don't understand why someone would report that it will be hard to get tickets unless you are a season ticket holder...

Need Sniper desperately!

I did say pound for pound, so yes LaPointe was tougher than Primeau. He was #3 overall and it was a huge mistake of a pick. Especially with all the talent that was drafted that year, but hey, the draft is a gamble.

Not without Commodore in. Oh wait, Kindl will play tough......

Morrow is a solid 3rd liner as well. Sure they can wait for Hudler in July, but at least they have exclusive bargaining rights up until then if they acquired him. And he has proven to be a top 6 forward, possibly top 3 on a different team. So Dallas would get a legit top 6 forward, two young bottom 6 players with tons of potential and they lose a bottom 6 maybe 2nd line forward. I am not down playing Morrow, because he will be sought after and could put a team over that edge, but he is not going to break our top 3 and maybe he'll take Hudler's spot on the 2nd line. So trade a top6 for a top 6 and 2 kids with tons of potential. Emmerton is a legit NHL'r.

What to do...What to do....Trade for Nabokov right F'ing now! Overspend no, send Conklin back along with some picks or a lower prospect. Jimmy may not get injured again this season, but if he does, we have NO chance with Conklin and MacDonald. Which duo looks better? Howard/Conklin? Howard/MacDonald? Conklin/MacDonald? Howard/Nabokov? and if there is an injury Nabokov/MacDonald.

Emmerton/Hudler/Andersson for Morrow... Conklin/Picks for Nabokov... Sign Parise and Suter in the off season...

I am not doing it again....I said that usually he says we need something and then gets nothing, so now that he says we don't need much, it must mean we are getting something! Yay! I also said, I don't think this team as it stands can compete for the Cup, and I think that Holland would be wrong if he thinks it can. Can they prove me wrong? I hope so, but I am not bashing Holland or the Wings...(except Franzen and Hudler every chance I get.)

In all honesty, I think pound for pound Marty Lapointe was a tougher center than Primeau. When I think of Primeau I just always think of this: He just never had a chance here with Yzerman and Fedorov as the #1 and #2 centers, same as Jimmy Carson, just couldn't get the icetime... edit: And before you tell me that Lapointe was a RW, he was drafted as a center and played that position in Adirondack and early in his tenure with Detroit. He excelled at a few forward postions.

So this means something will happen! Every year he says, we'd like to get bigger and get another top 6 forward and then nothing happens. Here he is saying he likes where the team is and nothing is in the works! Awesome! Can you say Blockbuster!!!! In all honesty, if Holland feels this team is playoff ready and can really compete for the Cup, then we are in trouble. This team needs another tough bruising forward AND a pure sniper AND a reliable back up goalie. The power-play is like 1 for 40, Conklin just doesn't have it, and this team will not get by San Jose with a bunch of soft forwards...I certainly hope "Patrick Eaves coming back from injury is our trade deadline acquisition" is not going to be reported come 3pm Feb. 27.

This guy has never even watched Hudler play! Huder? Visious? Oh that hurts, stop I am laughing so hard! I do like the name Worm for Jiri though! I think if a worm had a face, it would be Jiri's! (quick someone photoshop it!) Jiri "The Worm" Hudler ©

I agree, and I too believe you have to give to get. I like the prospects you listed, but I guess I am just a bit bias towards Sheahan considering I try to catch as many CCHA games as I can and am thoroughly impressed with him thus far this season. But ya, if it meant getting a Parise or Iginla or Perry, I would trade him, I'd hate to, but I would be ok eventually, especially if I get to see that Cup raised a few more times! BTW, I hope you are wrong about Holland this month, after last night, it is SO evident that this teams needs a pure sniper AND a reliable back-up goalie...

Also, you list Primeau on there, he was traded before you were 10, do you honestly remember seeing him play, or are you factoring in his days in Philly? He really only had one great season here, and I barely remember that and I was 24 when he had his 73 points. I am not questioning if he is one of your favorites or shouldn't be on your list, just curious as to how much you actually remember of him.

Uh.....ya. Hossa was our last true sniper since Hull. Besides the topic is all time favorite team, not all time winningest or tenured. Zetterberg wouldn't even make my second all time favorite team. I like him, and he is good, but in my history of hockey, I have other favorites than him. If this was an all time best players I have seen list, then sure, he would be listed...

Sorry, I thought the topic said "All Time FAVORITE Team" not all time best...although Doug Brown was FAR better than McCarty anyhow, so he would make the list over him to begin with...

You hit the nail buddy, the PowerPlay needs a sniper. Period.