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Ouch....can we say Epic Comeback? Please....

Uh, I get home from my son's hockey game and I see this? Holy Moly! Is this what we have to look forward to when Lidstrom retires? What has been happening? Has Conklin been bad or has the team let him down?

Lets not go through this again...thank you.

I am not sure about the Joe playing this, but the video?

HEY! I resemble that remark!

Lost in all of this is an ACTUAL Game Winning Goal by Johan Franzen. He actually scored with the game tied, in a clutch situation! I have to give him credit for that! Good on ya, Franzen! Keep it up now! cprice12.....what are we gonna do with you? Your true colors have come out in all those quotes...take Howard out? WTF? You can't score on him, so you want to injure him? Is that how you would like to see your team win, tainted? You get a -1000 just for being two-faced... PLUS you talk crap about our city...trust me, I know plenty of places in STL that are FAR worse than Detroit... Again, I don't do it often, but Way to Go Franzen!

This is funny stuff... It was textbook instigating AND it was nowhere near interference. The puck was not 5 feet away from the players, it was directly behind the net, exactly where they were. You are just looking for excuses to why you Blues lost their cool and lost the game. If every player in the league that saw their teammate get hit LEGALLY and felt the need to retaliate just because the guy got knocked down didn't do so, then we wouldn't have these roughing penalties. Legal hit, got embarrassed then his teammate lost his cool. This is hockey, not tiddly-winks.

I agree, but in all honesty, I don't think there was a call to be missed. cprice says that it was textbook interference but it really wasn't. It would have been interference if Helm knocked the guy down, they went after the puck, but it was an even battle for the puck where Helm hit him as they were going for the puck. If the puck weren't right in the feet of the players and was maybe 3-4 feet away, sure it could have been considered interference. No matter what, the Blues lost their cool and took a dumbass roughing penalty that cost them possibly getting a point in OT. Even on the ensuing PP if Halak wasn't trying to Halak and Whack Holmstrom into the stands, he would've been ready and in position to stop Kronwall's shot. Blues lose their cool and lose to Detroit....again...

Sounds much like our Country works....

Sanford's reaction is to assume Zetterberg shot hit in the back of the head on the way into the boards...What a jack-ass. Do you expect any less from a Blackhawk fan? When you are so successful for so long, the teams that sucked the bottom of the tank for a decade all hate you. Blues, Hawks, Pens to name a few. You are better off having faith in than having faith that any of those fans can objectively look at a play by the Red Wings and not say it was against the rules or cheating in some fashion.... cprice?

Ya that is strange with some of the players they have on the team....BUT if your goalie would stop more than the other guy, you wouldn't have that problem. But hey, at least there aren't any shootouts in the playoffs...

So, who did you trade in order to get Perry and Parros?

Crosby is going for his PAP SMEAR this week, they got plenty to talk about... ...besides, they only NOT suspend star's in the playoffs when they know the other team will go up 3 games to 0 if they allowed the suspension to stand and more than likely cause said team to lose to the other team AGAIN and then they couldn't jam said certain star players teammate and team down your throat like there is no other team to ever win the Stanley Cup in the world! (Yes, still have hate for that. It was a BS call to rescind the penalty that would've have pretty much guaranteed our back to back Championships. This was one of the worst cases of the league controlling the outcome of a series that I have ever seen. No, there is no guarantee the Wings would've won it, but the NHL did what they did to guarantee they didn't repeat...) Sorry, what was the topic again? BTW, I do wish the Caps would use that sweater all the time. Looks much better than the junk they wear now...

He needs Miller. Miller makes Abdelkader a better player because he is better defensively than Emmerton, so Abdelkader can take risks and go a bit out of his way to make a hit or a play because Miller can cover for him. Emmerton isn't bad, but just not as good as Miller. Once Eaves returns, Miller should slide back to the 4th and Abby should return to form. (unless Babcock can't take his head out of his ass.)

Ya, but did Michalek get 5 and a game misconduct? Geez! If Zetterberg's was worth 5 mins and a game, this guy should be up for manslaughter charges! This is why we ***** about the refs! Talk about injustice....

Good on ya, Shanny! cue the cprice ***** fest in 3...2...1...

Well, if the rumor is true that Teemu would waive his clause to come to Detroit (which I think is a slap in the face of Chicago, St. Louis and Vancouver ) then Holland better acquire him! Sure he would probably be a rental, but Hemskey may be a rental as well. I have said this before, all the talk of acquiring that elite player that might be here for the next 10 years doesn't have to be done in February. Although if an unresistable deal presents itself, then of course make it, but I think if Holland could get one or two to make this team better now, then do it now and wait until July 1st to get your Parise's or Suter's or whomever else. I would like to see Selanne plus another come here. Sleanne shouldn't be too expensive, neither should Hemsky, but that doesn't mean they won't be. Considering the topic, I think, unless you trade Hudler away, it is going to severley affect the bottom six because Hudler has proven he is not that type of player. He cannot grind with our current bottom 6. I cannot say he is a sniper or an elite, legit top 6 player, but that is where he fits here. It's kinda like Holmstrom, he really doesn't fit on that 4th line, but he isn't top 6 anymore either. Although, I think that his numbers would improve if he played with Datsyuk again. So if acquiring a top 6 without trading Hudler means Hudler slips down to the 3rd line, then yes it would greatly affect the bottom 6 and not in a good way. When Eaves returns it is a must that he stay with Helm/Cleary and have Miller move to the 4th. Miller has played well on the 3rd and deserves to stay there, but he makes the 4th line better with Abdelkader. So the bottom 6 must stay like this: Cleary - Helm - Eaves Miller - Abby - Holmstrom (rotating with the 13th FWD) If you put Hudler on either of these lines it will upset the chemistry, not because Hudler has played bad, but just as I have stated, he does not fit in with these type players. So if Holland acquires Selanne, hopefully it involves Hudler going the other way because of the chemistry thing, not because I dislike him. Unless Babcock just chooses to sit Hudler most nights as the 13th fwd. But hey, Holmstrom could rotate with Hudler and they could trade Emmerton or Mursak for Selanne. The powerplay can't get any worse with Holmstrom out of the lineup from time to time...He is a powerplay specialist, but right now, nobody is playing too special on the powerplay... BTW, you left Holmstrom out of your lineup. He may sit some, but he won't be a healthy scratch the rest of the season and playoffs. He will get most the playing time of all the #12 spot players on this team. He will be in there before Mursak and Emmerton for most of the games once Eaves returns. I think the order of choice by Babcock will be Holmstrom then Emmerton then Mursak.

^^^^^THIS!!!!!!!! I think for the most part, we are sympathetic to his health issues even though we may hate him as a player. But GD, who freaking cares what he is doing outside of hockey!?!?! We don't care that he is getting his spine looked at! We don't care that he gets a head ache when he ties his shoes! He is not the first player, nor the last, to have his career ended because of a concussion! Do we hear about every other player's doctor's appointments, who have concussions, no, so I don't care to hear about Cindy's either! Sure he has won a lot in his lifetime, good for him, if he would have played as long as Gretzky, maybe we'd have a new record holder in most categories, but he won't. He won't even play as long as Lindros did. Enough about Cindy Lee Crosby and his every little bit of progress and regress, please! It's time for the NHL to market the players that are actually playing!!!! (There's a concept!) He is done, it's too bad, yes, but it's the truth, move on, please! If he goes through all of this and makes a come back, then lets talk about what he had to do to get back. Lets talk about all the appointments he had to make in order to make himself healthy enough to become a star again. Until he is 100% healthy and comes back and starts playing hockey again, lets leave it alone, lets not have to hear about every baby step he is taking. If he makes a come back will it make for a good autobiography? Yes, and I am sure it will be a great read to hear about all the therapy and x-rays and appointments and medical advances, but until then I don't want to hear it. I think everyone would like to see him lead a healthy life. Most folks would like to see him play in the NHL again. But in the same token, 99% of the fans outside of Pittsburgh don't want to hear about every OB/GYN appointment he has to make! Up until Yzerman's retirement ceremony, I had no idea Vladdy was walking on his own with a walker! I though he was still getting around in a wheel chair, why? Because nobody talked about all he rehab appointments and every little crap he took that gave him a headache! The NHL went on, the Detroit Red Wings went on, then all of a sudden Vladdy was walking to center ice! Good Luck Cindy Lee, I hope you get your health together! You and your family are set for life, don't risk your life by rushing back to the NHL. See you in a couple years or maybe never, but get well, none the less! (there is my human side, now back to my NHL side) Hurry back so Kronner can Kronwall you into the 30th row! Then I won't have to see you dive and flop all of the ice anymore!

No suspension.... ...they were both slowing and stopping, The guy would've have fallen whether Zetterberg was there or not. The play on Mursak's injury in the pre-season was worse than this and did anyone get suspended? If Shanahan suspends Zetterberg, he should be erased from the Detroit Red Wings history books. His goals and points should be taken away and his name should be removed from the Stanley Cup...it's the ref that should be suspended for making the call. I watched it over and over and over, he just places his hand on his back, there is no push, no shove, no intent, not even a tickle...

Damn! Beat me to it! ...this just in...

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:carrot: :banana: I wonder how much Wisniewski is liking his choice in teams right about now? I wonder how much the team is liking having to pay this guy to be hurt AGAIN this season?

Ya, I know, but I just hate to put any other name there and everytime I mention Franzen I get like 5 or 6 neggs. I guess it would be nice to dream that they would only cost some prospects but then you would still have to clear roster space somehow and I don't see them waiving Hudler or Conklin....well maybe Conklin. But ya, I hear ya and I do agree...

Basically cprice, besides your city, maybe some of your state and a few displaced former St. Louis residents, nobody in the world of hockey really cares about the Blues. Unfortunately for you and your city, the same cannot be said about the Red Wings. And like Doc said, that comes from consistency, history and star players making this franchise the best and most popular (behind Montreal) franchise in the NHL and perhaps the entire hockey world. We know you hate us cause we are evil (Damn that Yzerman, he is just so evil!) and even though you have probably never been to our city, have nothing but thoughts of death and slums and poverty when you think of Detroit. But you cannot fight was is fact. The Red Wings are what sells tickets in the NHL and when someone is looking to make money, they put on a Wings jersey, not a blues jersey. Nothing personal, just business... Ya, I agree, can we change our name to Blues?

You don't like posting here, or reading on a...uh, last time I checked, A Detroit Red Wings Forum, then well, I don't need to show you where the door is. You can go to the only place in cyberworld bitching that the Blues aren't in the WC...I am sure you know the address... So, first you ***** about all the Wings fans on a Wings forum (go figure) and now you wanna come in a bash our city? You aren't playing with a full deck of cards are you? Yep, sure is! It will also be nice when we are in the SCF again, before the Blues. Keep holding on to your dream that this is you best Blues team ever. You'll be looking for a new starting goalie next season...mark those words down....BUDDY. Oh, and hey look, I too can neg for no reason...