LeftWinger

Yep, and we all know what has to happen for us to get a lottery pick....ugh, can't stand the thought! YA! We aren't even the Red Wings of the late 90's to early 00's!

Make the trade for Hemsky (Hudler + in return) Make the trade for Nabokov (Conklin + in return) Roll with that team through the playoffs, win or lose the Cup, changes are happening especially if Lids retires and Stuart leaves. I got a feeling Lidstrom will be back again to help showcase his team playing in Ann Arbor plus he may be defending another Norris trophy. Holmstrom should hang it up, Bertuzzi can come or go, either way. You will be needing a backup after this season because Nabokov, no doubt will get some good offers to be a starter. No worries, because I have a feeling Tomas Vokoun will be looking for a nice home next year and the prospect of being number 2 on this team far outweighs the starting jobs available, so that will be that. Come July, you sign Suter and you sign Parise. Which gives you a 2012 playoff roster of: Franzen-Datsyuk-Hemsky Bertuzzi-Zetterberg-Filppula Cleary-Helm-Eaves Holmstrom-Abdelkader-Miller/Mursak/Emmerton (if Mursak or Emmerton aren't traded) Lidstrom-White Kronwall-Stuart Ericsson-Commodore Kindl Howard Nabokov And a 2012-13 roster of: Franzen-Datsyuk-Parise Filppula-Zetterberg-Hemsky Cleary-Helm-Eaves Miller-Abdelkader-Mursak/Emmerton (again barring a trade of either of those two) Lidstrom-Suter Kronwall-White Ericsson-Smith Kindl Howard Vokoun ...of course this is just an example, who knows what Holland will really do next month then in July...I know, I know, all this talk is all fun and games until someone shoots an eye out.

Moen off the block may be correct, but I think Holland will acquire that solid third line grinder to play with Cleary and Helm. I like Miller and the more he plays the better, but I think he plays better with Abdelkader, or at least makes that 4th line better. Eaves-Abdelkader-Holmstrom/Miller is a great 4th line. I get knocked all the time, but something tells me Penner just may be coming to town. I know, I know, everyone hopes not, but I just feel that a change of scenery just may help this kid and he would look pretty impressive out there with Helm/Cleary. But, it's just an odd feeling. I wouldn't mind Kovalchuk's long contract here as long as he and Datsyuk and re-kindle some magic! At least he wouldn't be a rental and you would have possibly the best top line in the league with Franzen/Datsyuk/Kovachuk for a long long time! (assuming Datsyuk re-signs, and I think I am assuming correctly that he will...)

I am sure there are more of us, but they just don't want to come to terms with it yet...that's ok, back before 2008 when I was a huge hater (and still am) of Hudler, I was in the minority, and in the last off season, I couldn't keep track of the number of Hudler-Haters we had here. The Franzen-Freaks will see him for what he is worth...and that is alot! (on the trade block)

He does get some credit towards this status by whooping on the poster child...doesn't he?

That isn't the new way of saying cyber-sex is it? I hope not! Anyway, all this talk about big names. As much as I'd like to see a number 1 sniper here for the deadline, it wold just rape this team too much before the playoffs. I hope it happens come July 1st though! Anyway, take all the big names out of the mix, I could see three guys coming here on deadline day. Alex Hemsky Travis Moen Evgeni Nabokov. Skip all the other trade talk and sign Parise and Suter July 1st. Perry/Ryan/Iginla/Doan, sure they would be great here, but at what cost? As much as I cannot stand Franzen, he won't be traded. You get Hemsky, Moen, Parise, Suter to replace Holmstrom, Bertuzzi, Hudler & Stuart. If Lidstrom retires, then we are in even more hurt, but one step at a time. If you get Suter, it stops the bleeding for a bit. with these four gentlemen, next season's lines look a mile above what we have now, and those aren't too bad as we speak... I'd love to make some up, but who do you think I am, blueadams?

That Jenks kid doesn't sound like too bad of a prospect. Too bad he can't get a shot with an organization that actually gives a s***. First Florida, now Carolina? Geesh, whats next Phoenix? Columbus? The Island? Oh well, maybe one day he will make it to a club that cares...Good luck kid! I always have a soft spot for local talent!

You would think that even if the season ticket holders get first crack, there will still be over 80,000 AT LEAST available to us...I sure would love to go, but will be living on the west side of Michigan by then and it will be even further to drive....but maybe! I wonder if I could wear a Abdelkader MSU jersey there? You would think that even if they do get to buy first, they could only buy the same amount of tickets that they buy now. So, how many tickets are season tickets at each game? 15, 16, 17,000? if even that? I have a feeling that there will be plenty of tickets to be bought, as long as the scalpers and agency's aren't allowed to get their hands on them first!

Funny thing is, as much as you tried to be funny here, you are right! There is only one thing worse than a soft European blueliner, that is a soft N/A blueliner....seriously.

Cleary's NTC expires 30 days prior to Feb. 27th 2012. That being said, he is too valuable with Helm right now. So no to Cleary. I think Montreal would be dumb to accept the other trade, although I would love to have Moen here, I wouldn't want to lose Eaves and Emmerton for him. Subban is a splash in the pan, I wouldn't trade Hudler for him. There are more important things to address with this team than blue line scoring.

False....maybe do they research before you post something this dumb. Don't count your chickens buddy. Your team has been WAY better than this and didn't even get a sniff of the SCF, due mostly by the Detroit Red Wings, which explains your utter hatred for everything Red & White. Which is blatantly obvious by everything you post. And BTW, if the Blues had a decent enough following outside of St. Louis, there wouldn't be talks of Western Conference treason if the Wings headed East. They are the money maker in the West...that is why they are in the Classic...again. Odds are, they will be there a third time before St. Louis gets in once. Something tells me that if it were the Blues in it twice in four years, we wouldn't be reading your rants. Or if they have actually won anything....ever. Ya, if they are playing in Detroit/Boston/New York/Chicago etc... These blues fans make me laugh, they have so much jealousy and hatred for anything Detroit that everything they try to say objectively comes off smelling like rotten tomatoes or sour grapes. It's pretty nauseating.

Well, since we aren't getting anybody of top level without ditching Franzen, I look for our "scoring" winger to be Ales Hemsky and the "abrasive" forward to be Travis Moen. They will cost a lot less than Franzen. Possibly just prospects or draft picks. The issue is the roster space. We already have 14 forwards, so who would go to make room? Not gonna name names, but it would have to be someone to Edmonton who has "potential" to score 70+ points and Montreal may take a French-Canadian born prospect. I would still love to see a blockbuster bringing someone like Perry or Ryan here, but that would cost us Franzen, which I would welcome, but not many of you guys would as proven by how many negs folks get around here just by mentioning trading Franzen. EDIT: I still have that weird feeling that Penner is coming our way. But I also wouldn't mind Kovalchuk (contract sucks though) to play along side Datsyuk. The magic these two could have together may almost be worth that long cotract. At least he wouldn't be a rental...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me6hDOX2Fu0 also, my buddy is dating Dan's sister and told me that she said that the Wings are frontrunners and are close to a deal. Also the Lightning is a high possibility with Yzerman being on of his favorite players as a kid... ...sorry if this was already discussed.

Ya, because teams are just gonna give us their top players for our prospects or draft picks or better yet, just for the hell of it! Oh ya, come July 1st, I forgot, ALL ufa's are lining up to come play in Detroit for discounts. It won't cost us anything to acquire the best players in the league! Dude, if you are happy with the roster right now, just say so, there is no need to throw smart ass comments around. You could've just said "I think we have a great team and we don't need anything! Go Wings!" But you'd rather look and sound like an ass. +1 for you! That's the problem..I know. Unfortunately nobody is really gonna take on that hunk of junk contract. The cap hit is nice, but the length is asinine. Filppula is way more important to this team than Franzen I just hope he doesn't get sacrificed. I guess we will see. I do hope that if we stand pat, so do the rest of the upper teams. If Chicago/San Jose/Vancouver all get better by making bold moves, we are in deep trouble. I cannot imagine if Chicago picked up Perry or Ryan or Iginla....ugh. This might get ugly...

I think if his heart is set on going to his home state, then Holland MUST attempt to get something in return. I understand your guy's assesment of his pending UFA status kind of handcuffing Holland, BUT what if ALL THREE California teams want his services? It's not like he is chopped liver and he could be a huge help to any of them. So it's not like they are all gonna lowball Holland in and miss on a chance to attain his services. BUT if we are dealing away one of our top 4 defenders, with really nobody to replace him right now (Smith, Kindl or Commie are not top 4 defenders) we damn well be getting someone back that we can put in his place. This is why I cannot see Holland trading him at the deadline unless the deal is just too good to pass up. He be better off trading his rights in June. I'd personally chose Anaheim at the deadline if that is when he will be traded, 1. We won't have to worry about facing them in the playoffs and 2. Since they are looking to sell, they could outbid the other two playoff bound teams who would rather be buyers than sellers and upsetting the chemistry on their team. With that being said, I really wish Brad would stay, but do understand (personally) spending time away from your family for your career. What ever happens, Brad will be remember as one the best defensemen we have had in Detroit and he will always be a Stanley Cup Champion as a Detroit Red Wing. Godspeed Brad Stuart!

I disagree on Filppula. He is coming into his own and on a career year. He has been easiest the second best forward on this team behind Datsyuk. If we are talking trade one of our top 6 forwards I would rather it be Franzen and Hudler going. Franzen, Hudler, Kindl then some prospects and draft picks including our 1st rounder. Those are the assets I would be shopping...

Well, considering the teams you named that are willing to give up a 1st rounder, it would seem if Holland was willing to give up a 1st rounder that he would get the better in return since it will more than likely be a higher pick than Boston or Chicago or Vancouver or maybe even St. Louis. I would hope that the Wings finish higher, but it really doesn't matter, because if you are gonna win the Cup, you are gonna have to learn to win on the road anyhow. Regarding making a move, I really hope Holland takes that huge jump and gets a top line player. Who that may be, I am not sure, but the names that have been surfacing would all help more than us losing a Hudler or Franzen would hurt. Perry, Ryan, Iginla, Doan, Parise, etc... I would love to see a huge move at the deadline, but would also be OK with a Hemsky or Moen and maybe an actual NHL defender coming here. I like Commodore, and I can stand Kindl a little, but they are both 7th d-men. IF Holland could score a veteran defender rental for a solid Cup run (Hal Gill type) I think we would be sitting pretty! Oh and all respect to Conklin, but if Holland can land Nabokov for the Cup run then I am all for it! If this team acquired Hemsky for a top 6 forward, Moen & Gill to shore up the bottom 6 and defense and of course Nabby to solidify the goaltender position. Then if it doesn't work, go for a revamp come July 1st which is on my wish list, a #1 defender to replace Lidstrom (eventually) and TWO legit top snipers...who or from where? Don't know. EDIT: DOn't get what part of this deserves a neg...as usually people won't explain or debate why they disagree.

I don't know too much about it him. I just know what my buddy told me yesterday. I would like for him to choose the Wings. You got to figure, he is only a Sophomore so by the time he gets to play in Detroit, he will be well over 200lbs. and will probably be a better skater. But, like I said, I really don't know too much about him personally, except that my buddy is now dating his sister and he told me that the Wings are really high on getting him under contract and he would love to play here too. But in the end, NHL time is what it is all about he will have to decide if he wants to wait to get into the NHL with Detroit in a few years or right away with a bottom dweller. I look forward to meeting him one day if my buddy thinks highly enough of me! LOL! (just kidding Jeff) But ya, maybe he can score some Western tickets and we could get to a game or two... I will post if I hear anything about where he may have signed, that is if my buddy hears something before anyone else...

I wonder if Ilitch is fine with the game being in Ann Arbor, or if he was just told by the NHL, either it's Ann Arbor or you don't get the game... I know he is gonna get a ton of money from the 110,000+ tickets sold and that probably swayed his mind just a little bit....

Another thing that could have the Wings on the inside track is his former coach Jeff Blashill is our asst. coach. Be nice to see another local kid get a shot at playing for his favorite team as he grew up.

Ya, considering it's the truth, it isn't really that far fetched is it? He text me and asked if my phone got youtube, then he said he watched the Notre Dame/Western game with her and sent me the link to the video above. He also said that she told him that Yzerman has said to him tthat he will see NHL time this year if he signs with the Lightning, which could tempt him to go there since he won't pay in Detroit until he is about 25. Also, when he appeared to score a goal last night and she better my buddy that he did, he told her that it was deflected, so she called Dan after the game and he confirmed that yes it was a teammate who got credit for the goal... You know, there are some people that know some other people crymson. I happen to work with Manny Legace's father-in-law so I suppose your uncle date's Manny's aunt then, eh? BTW, when his father-in-law gets tickets to a Wings game, we get card blanche. We get to park with the players, enter in their entrance, get to go into the Olympia Club and by the lockerroom. When Manny was with Carolina, and they played in Detroit we get to go down to the visitor's lockerroom a see Manny after the game. Can't go before the game because all day before the game starts, he doesn't talk to anyone, not even his wife and kids. And ya, that is something I learned from Manny himself. So Crymson, get off your horse.

If they go with the same lineup again, its gonna be a rough night. Guess babs believes he has a better chance against teams with kindl in, instead of commie, even though with commie, ericsson plays hellavu lot "bigger" so in reality, when he puts Kindl in, he takes BOTH Commie and Ericsson out Once again, split up helm and cleary you are gonna see what your gonna get...more of the same from last few games...I just do not understand.

Erik Cole anyone?

I know what it takes to be the best...and Weingartz has it!

Dont think of it as one pizza, think of it as one pizza and one box..... ....what am i gonna do with a box? Ever hear of oragamy?