LeftWinger

I am a bit excited, its too bad Kindl is the odd man out, but if Commodore plays the game he was signed to play and Ericsson goes back to the first 5 games Ericsson (fighter and hitter) this is gonna be one bad ass defense to play against... I am thinking Babcock might have to split up LIds and White though, maybe put White with Stuart and Kronner with Lids, but Ericcson and Commodore should be VERY intimidating as long as they keep away from head shots...

From a strictly observation standpoint, I am going to predict Marion Hossa gets dealt to Florida on the deadline...

Lets end it tonight...or the phones will start ringing...Holland has the receiver in his hand right now, waiting to dial that last number! How are the Devils doing anyhow?

Just a little note, the last time the Wings missed the playoffs, 1989-90, in the beginning of the year the went 12 games without a win (I think just a couple of ties) and could never recover the points. Still a was to go before that happens, so lets hope they turn it around tonight! Heck they just need someone to score! Crud, I didn't know Parise makes $6M! Might be a pretty expensive pick up... How many people still think Jagr would've have been a bad deal? 5G 7A thus far, maybe Holland should've given him the $3.3M. How about an out of left field prediction... Come deadline, Wings acquire Rolston and Nabokov from the Islanders and Iginla from the Flames along with Doan... Then poach Suter over the summer, re-sign Doan, and Nabokov and get Parise... Oh wait, forgot about the Salary Cap....silly me!

I like your thinking! I wasn't going to drop names as to who gets traded but I want to see one of Suter/Weber and also want to see Parise here. Hey, it's a fantasy I know, but let me dream until deadline is over.

Well, we aren't getting Weber unless it's a trade before at the deadline, which is an option if Nashville decides to go with Suter instead, plus with Detroit pending move to the East, it wouldn't hurt Nashville to trade Weber to us since we won't be division rivals anymore.. Anyhow Holland doesn't dabble in RFA's. Suter will be on his radar though, more so than all of our speculation over Wiz last season. Suter is about as close to a Lidstrom replacement that you are gonna find. For my money I'd chose Suter over Weber, but if either one is a Red Wing next off season, Yes it is, but Nashville is not going to lose him for nothing, if he leaves as a RFA for $7M or so Nashville will get 4 first round draft picks if they don't match the offer... No, he is indeed going to be a RFA.

Strange that they are going with a 22 man roster...oh well, could one hope for a top 3'er coming in?

Ok, I am excited to see what kind of game Commie brings tonight! I know he is not a saviour for this slump, but a change on D right now could spark something. I am little disappointed to see Nyquist is not in (according to mLive) tonight, I feel he really didn't get a good look the other night because of the refs...er,I mean all the penalty's they took ( .) Plus I cannot say how much I dislike Hudler being back in, but Emmerton is due in and with Eaves out, I guess someone has to play if Nyquist isn't. I sure hope SOMEONE finds their scoring touch tonight, please someone find their scoring tonight...

Honestly, I really don't miss Fischer. He had tons of upswing, until he got his ass kicked by Shawn Thornton and he never was the same. He barely ever fought anymore, barely hit, was not intimidating at all. We haven't had a mean, tough defenseman on this team who cleared the net with authority and consistantly since Bob Rouse. Honestly, really. Fish was a huge body, but he barely used it anymore, he had one great season and was falling off since. Smith seems mean enough, but I hope he doesn't turn into a coward like Jiri did the first time he gets his ass kicked by a REAL hockey player in the NHL. On a different note, that pic of MacDonald fighting, he looks like Tim Cheveldae when he got pummeled by CuJo...

What's even more profound is that they went 2-4 their first 6 games...but then again, this team has no Yzerman, Shanahan, Fedorov, Larionov, Konstantinov, Vernon, Osgood, Lapointe, Lidstrom all in their prime... Needless to say this version of the Detroit Red Wings pales in comparison to 1996-97's. All I can do is cross my fingers, tighten my seatbelt and hold on tight hoping they turn this little funk around...

Kerry Fraser, the spin doctor. Basically, he is saying blah blah blah, my refs don't make mistakes, blah blah blah, deal with it blah blah blah Bertuzzi is a bully blah blah blah even though he does the exact same thing yadda yidda kibbles and bits he will always get called for the penalty zippy dippy dooby woobie besides it's the Red Wings, we give them zero breaks flip flap flonga... Hey Fraser, Hey NHL, Hey Bettman "EAD!"

Cant win the Cup every year....I would take the guaranteed WCF right now with the way they're playing today....

Joke? Good one, I like the thread dedicated to all the jumpers...but to all the ones who seriously think this is over, again 1995-96 Wings started out 5-5-1. Finished the season 62-13-7. If they go 5-6 or worse, then Holland will attend to the issues...

This team is what it is....I am all for a trade to shake it up, but right now, not many trade-able assets are playing very good to get us a sniper in return. Not unless you are willing to bid adieu to Franzen.

Well, at least Lidstrom said what he felt about the non-call. Won't change the outcome, but refs blew the play, period.

Nah, this team doesn't have problems, they are just getting ready for the jump to the Eastern Conference were the teams are as good...

Oh, I definitely agree with you, I was just saying how it USED to be a battle for the puck prior to this year. This year the refs have been calling that same play interference all the time. Should have been interference.

as I referenced earlier, that play has been called interference all season long....prior to this year it was a battle for the puck, but this year they have been calling the penalty. Nice time to go back to the old rule refs...oh well, we need to score more goals! 5 in 5 is horrible.

Tonight you can honestly say, Red Wings got screwed by the refs. The hit on Kronner is being called interference this year, well except tonight. 8 penalties to 3? PLUS a 5 on 3? Wings definitely got screwed tonight. Never fear guys! In 1995-96 the Wings started the season 5-5-1 and wound up at 62-13-7. BUT, this lack of scoring is becoming a bit concerning...5 goals in 5 games is not gonna cut it. I wouldn't be surprised if Holland makes a few phone calls just to see what's out there... Wings lose a 6th in a row, you can bet numbers will be dialed...

Ugh, I still don't like that second line and swap Helm and Abby.

Ya, I agree with you on the second line, but I was just going with what folks are saying Babcock said about the second line. How good would Parise look in there?

Babcock doesn't like him....

Hudler scratched? Uh..... ANyhow, I guess Babcock is serious about shaking something up, I sure wish we'd see Commodore soon. Are we sure that Franzen is gonna center Gus and Bert? Seems like a lot of scorers... ...I'd like to see the Eaves - Helm - Cleary line reunited and put Filppula on Datsyuk's wing. I guess if we are going with that Franzen line then lets see how these would work... Flip - Dats- Zetts Gus - Franz - Bert Eaves - Helm - Cleary Miller - Abby - Holmer

Oh, believe me, I would love to dump Ericsson first, but he has that NTC, so I would have an easier job trading Kindl. But I am assuming that Ericsson would have to approve any trade, if something comes my way that he would approve, then he would go before Kindl. Now all of this doesnt matter if Commie doesnt bounce back.

Kindl is collateral damage. He is traded. How many goals have the Wings given up the last four? If that doesnt change, then change will be needed.... Apparently Kindl's upside has show alot the last four games. IF that trend continues throughout the year, Kindl becomes very expendable, changes will need to be made. Now if you read, I said if Commie does his job and earns a re-sign, but if he doesnt then Kindl can stay. If Commie makes an impact, I choose him over Kindl.