LeftWinger

No need to apologize. I am with you on this, Holland ALWAYS talks a big game, but never comes through. San Jose knew what was needed and they weren't afraid to trade s huge part of their offense for Burns. I would have traded Franzen for Burns...

Yippie ******* doo.... This is supposed to be the best off season the Wings have had in a long LONG time and Holland has done nothing so far... Oooo, I am gonna make some trades on draft day, Oooo we are gonna make some deals... Strike one Holland....Strike One.... tomorrow is another swing at bat....July 1st is your last swing.... Do not strike out.... yet again. Very disappointed thus far with Holland...

...and we are still stuck with Hudler... everyone seems to be getting better and making deals and the only thing we have to show for it is two second rounds picks that whoever they are, aren't gonna see the city of Detroit for at least 5 years... Come ON Holland! Damn it don't sit on your ******* hands again! You talk a big game all the way up until it's time to pull the trigger and then...nothing... Hudler and our first could have gotten us somebody to improve our team!

LOL! Ya, I know you meant stReaming, but ya, I am STEAMING that s***sburgh took Morrow! f*** man, trade Hudler already!! This is st00pid! Make the deal Holland! Hudler and one of those 2nd's for Wisniewski's rights!!!

What a waste of an evening! Damn! I am gonna just think positive and say that Holland REALLY wanted Morrow, but couldn't convince s***sburgh to not take him, so he said f*** it and traded down... ya that's what happened, that's the ticket... Now I feel better!

I wish Holland would ******* draft someone in the first round! GD! I wouldn't have sat in front of the TV all ******* night! Argh! The frustration!!!! Do they do the second round tonight?

f***!!!!!!!!!! If I already didn't hate the Penguins enough!!!! f***.... Sorry Joe Morrow that you have to play in a s***hole! f***!!!!!

is he that much better than any "prospect" goaltender that we already have? Larsson or McCollum? I admit, I don't know much about him and only figured out he was a goalie when Travis mentioned Boucher...

but at least we'd be in the same spot we are now, at least 2 maybe 3 D-men. Of course if Kindl was traded, who would be #7 then, Janik? ugh! Please throw Hudler in there too! If we trade Flip and keep Hudler, argh!!!!!!

That is good news IF Detroit is a player! What do you think it would take to get Regehr here?

at the negs because I said I would puke if he drafts Swede's. I guess nobody can even have an opposing opinion on who they'd like to see drafted. It's not like I said "I hate (insert nationality here)" I simply just said, in not so many words, I think the organization has enough influx of European defensemen. I would really love to see Morrow drafted instead of Jonas Brodin. Come on folks, lets remember how the negs and positives are supposed to be used. Of course when someone negs someone else, they never have the balls to admit it and explain why. Negs are not used because someone has an opposing opinion, but some kiddies just can't handle open forums... Let me put it politcally correct for you: Its my personal opinon that Joe Morrow would bring more to the future of this hockey club than Jonas Brodin would. If Holland has both of these players available at #24 and opts for Brodin, I will be very disappointed...

Good! I would hate to see him go, and as I my point was, I would ESPECIALLY hate to see him go, if it meant keeping Hudler instead!

yes, but you wouldn't have to choose Talbot over Eaves, because he wold be replacing someone like Hudler, which of course I would gladly accept!

I agree. Holland made his offer, if Jagr doesn't like it, oh well, Holland has better plans with that $16M than to give $4M of it to Jagr. Far better players out there to offer $3M-$4M to instead of and younger than Jagr... I am ok with him being a Red Wing, but only on Holland's terms. I'd rather see most of that cash spent on the Defense...

Well, Ferraro seems to be dropping of the radar, so far that drop down hasn't worked out...

I can see Joakim Andersson being part of a trade to find either that top 4 d-man or the top 6 forward Babcock wants...

I've seen a couple of mocks, having him take a couple different Swedish defensemen! If he does that, I will absolutely puke...come on Holland, if he's there, Joe Morrow!

Well, hell, I'll take Regehr and then sign Tanguay as well... So far, from the looks of it, Holland still needs to find three more defensemen, unless he is gonna use Smith or Janik, then he needs two... Regehr AND Wisniewski would be nice! edit: Trade for Regehr, sign Wiz and Montador! draft Morrow! Defense SET for years to come! edit2: if for some reason, Holland trades Filppula and keeps Hudler, I will be disgusted! I will be ok with trading Filppula as long as Hudler is gone as well.

I don't know where he got it, but a friend of mine today said that he read a report that Detroit was interested in Regehr... Probably a Eklund rumor.... BTW, where is the Official Draft Day Thread?

...obviously not someone Holland is interested in... I can see it now, draft a puny swede in the first round and on UFA day, sign more swede's... Please Holland, all I wish for is Joe Morrow in the first round (if he is still there.) Good move for Toronto, maybe by time Detroit gets to the East, they will be good enough to re-kindle the rivalry!!

I'd like to see the teams in their divisions. It is weird to think that with only one team moving west, to have two go east... There would have to be another going west, you would think....but who?

Here nor there. I am perfectly fine with Holland offering him $2M, but if Pit gets him for more (or even less) no biggie. I'd like to see him play here, but whatever. I am not going to dog him for being 39, he still has good skills, he is much better than Hudler and that alone makes him worth signing. CANNOT compare him to Modano OR Krupp, BOTH GOT INJURED and didn't recover in time to be effective. Some people just don't get it... I'd take him or Jokinen, Tanguay, Arnott, Handzus, Ryder, Selanne or even LaRose to help put some pucks in the net. Even with all this talk about Jagr, whether you were pro or con, NOBODY and I mean virtually NOBODY here said think offense first. We are all on board with spending the most of fixing the Defense, then addressing the offense after. Holland offered a modest contract to Jagr, if he wants more than $2M elsewhere, then good for him. With $16M available and Holland only offering him $2M it just means that Holland has better plans for that money (Hopefully that includes $4.5-$5 for Wisniewski.) He already said that they are a team that spends up to the Cap, so he definitely has plans to spend it. Maybe he saves $4M or so for the trade deadline, just in case, but even spending $12M on the D and a top 6 forward would make this team tons better than last season... Jagr or not...

Not taking away from every single HOF/non-HOF player to have played with the Red Wings during my lifetime, which is awesome to have witnessed and am still witnessing, but I feel so privilege to have watch TWO of the absolute greatest players to ever grace the ice, for not just a game or two or a season or two, but for their ENTIRE PROFESSIONAL CAREERS, Steve Yzerman and Nick Lidstrom. Yzerman from day 1 to his last game, and LIdstrom from day 1 to who knows when!?!?! To have these guys be the greatest at what they do, perhaps the greatest when it comes to Lidstrom, and to have then play their entire careers in one city, my city, to never have seen them where a different sweater with the exception of the colors of their Country and the All-Star games, is really just sweet topping on what is turning out to be a pretty awesome life I am living. I have had my issues and life problems, stress, near divorce, bankruptcy, but even with all that, these two guys have helped provide a distraction to keep my mind free and giving me something to enjoy even in my darkest hours. Now with my life totally turned around and to look back a reflect on these guys careers without life's problems entering my mind, I just shake my head in awe. Thank you Steve and Nick for the better part of thirty years of my life! Congrats Nick on the award and thank you for playing yet another season...You truly are the best at what you do and an inspiration to watch! :beerbuddy: to you!

Seriously? Lets sever one of your tendons and see how well you can perform your job...

Well, we got Lids re-signed, so all that is left for me is: Jaromir Jagr ($2M seems like a no brainer gamble) Drew Miller ( 2yrs, $850,000 per) Patrick Eaves (2yrs $950,00 per) James Wisniewski ($4M would be great, but I am think more close to $5M per for 5 years) Steve Montador (1yr $2M) Ed Jovanovski (1yr $3M) Joe Goalie (possibly Nabokov in a deal for Hudler/pick)