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spend the majority of the money on defense, BUT if Holland could find a player to put in 30-40, maybe 50 more goals and can score consistently (unlike Franzen) then why not add that dimension?

I really don't understand where this comes from, in 75 games last season he only had 38 PIM's... He has has ONE season where he had more than 100 PIM's that was 103 in Chicago...All others were 36, 39, 30, 56 and last season's 38 PIM's... In 329 career games he has 302 PIM's and 103 of those came in one 68 game season... I don't believe he takes stupid penalties at all... At least not to the point to where he can be labeled.

The coaches have to work well together, this is why I don't believe Chelios will be here, I seem to remember him and Babcock having a little feud going.... Barry Smith is currently head coach in Switzerland, wonder if he can be coaxed back?

I suddenly just now realized that the Bruins haven't won the Cup since 1972....wow 38 years! That has to be the longest drought for an American team.... Go Bruins!

Ok, and Bertuzzi didn't go out of his way? Nevermind, nobody can change your view of Pronger, much as noone can change mine of Hudler...

I am not agreeing or disagreeing with either of you, but here is a little snipit from the Saskatoon Blades history concerning some...ahem, hot prospects.... Cheveldae? Sheldon Kennedy? junior hockey's brightest prospect? Emerging star Kory Kocur? Yep, all three draft picks of the Wings, Kocur was a first rounder...sheesh! OF course these aren't the only "busts" that got drafted, but it goes to show you, even when that ARE projected to be stars, sometimes they don't turn out to be! Alexandre Daigle being a glaring example of that too!

Kenny, listen up, IF Lids retires, then throw the wallet at Weber! Make him an offer he cannot refuse and at the very least, when Nashville matches they got to break their bank in doing so! When the Wings win the Cup next year he can brag to Suter how awesome it is to play in Detroit! Even if they don't, he'll still brag! (then you never know! Weber and Suter together again!) :DREAM: Come on Lids one more year, if only to save us cap space over trying to poach Weber or outbid a team and overpay a lessor player....

Well, if we're talking about suggestive overtones: Canucks? A little racist isn't it? Blackhawks? Disrespecting the Native American are we? Red Wings? Really? Ewwwwwww!

Good Luck Maclean! So now, this off season gets even more interesting!

Ya, they'd never have someone like that on this team! ....oops..... My point is, everyone makes boneheaded plays that sometimes result in injuries (even though some of them are pre-meditated and not just a momentary brain fart.) If Pronger's contract wasn't so idiotic, I am sure Holland would love to have him on this team, as would most of the Red Wings nation! And look how much we took a liking to Chelios... I am sure when he said that he models his game after Chris Pronger, he didn't mean he likes to go around injuring players.

Make room for the *****! Bab- and Hitch- Sorry couldn't resist.... (edit: I see someone else (^^^up there^^^) has the same warped mind as me! ) also, if I had my choice, I'd choose to replace the Mac's with the OV's but I don't think that is gonna happen....

Let's Compare: 1976-1977 Montreal Canadiens: Regular Season: 60-8-12 132 pts. 387 GF 171 GA Dryden / Larocque combined - 2.12 GAA 14 SO's Playoffs: 12-2 54 GF 22 GA - 1.55 GAA 4 SO's 2001-2002 Detroit Red Wings: Regular Season: 51-17-10-4 OL 116 pts. 251 GF 187 GA Hasek / Legace combined - 2.22 GAA 5 SO's Playoffs: 16-7 76 GF 46 GA - 1.88 GAA 6 SO's ....say what you will about those Canadiens, there were less teams in the League (18 for Canadiens 30 for Red Wings, which means less travel (especially to the West Coast)) PLUS they only had to play three rounds in the playoffs(resulting in the higher number of goals for/against for the Red Wings.) Even with the 9 more games played in the playoffs by Detroit, the GAA is only a smidge bit higher (MTL 1.55 DET 1.88.) BUT with that being said, the stats aren't that different and would LOVE to see these two teams play each other for the Stanley Cup! Me being bias (a little ) I would have to factor all the travel and longer playoff grind and give the nod to the Detroit Red Wings... Speaking of that, when you factor in all the travel and the larger amount of teams that played in the league, it really makes you appreciate the 1995-96 Detroit Red Wings and their 131 pts! Did you know that they started the season 5-5-1 and then went 57-8-6 the rest of the season? Now that was a team! Too bad they couldn't bring it all home!

The Wings traded for Hasek July 1st, 2001 but Chris Osgood wasn't traded, he was claimed off waivers by the Islanders and it wasn't until after training camp in September (not during the summer) I would say you forgot just a few details about that season (maybe a few too many barley pops on Lake Michigan!) But I enjoyed the story and the enthusiasm!

I guess Spuddy would be nice, it's probably going to be a pipedream that they would get Larionov.... Have we heard any other news on possible names for the already vacated spot?

If Morrow makes it to 24 and Holland actually drafts him, first I will be like then I will be like then I will be like then I will be like

The bigger question should be What If? What if he retires? What does Holland do? You know that Nashville is gonna match ANYTHING offered to Weber, so if Lids retires, what is out there that Holland can get to fill in the D? Pretty much every scenario that we as fans have gone over and posted and "blueadamsED" to death included Lidstrom....What if ladies and gentlemen? What if?

again, these are the guys I like....I posted this in the first draft thread.... any of these guys in the first and/or second (or further down if they are around) would make me a very excited fan. Since it usually takes 3-4 years of developing before they make the big club, any small flaws these kids have SHOULD be worked out before they make the jump...

If Richards or Parise were two options, I would opt for Parise since I believe he is the better PURE GOAL scorer. But Parise is an RFA, he would have to be traded to us...

I am not up for trading Abdelkader at all. I would say move Kindl or another prospect instead...

Just comparing them as whipping boys that came here and weren't whipping boys...not career status...

It gonna be the Detroit Red Wings! They are gonna move to the Eastern Conference and will be re-branded Eastern Conference Champions instead of Western Conference Champions on their way to another Stanley Cup Championship! Sheesh guys!

YA! The Winn-Dixie Panthers! The NASCAR Hurricanes! Ya! The Arizona Plateau! they have hockey in Miami? The Panthers play outside of the Sawgrass Mills Mall in Sunrise which is north west of Fort Lauderdale....I get what you're saying, just bustin your chops a lil!

I find it hard to get pumped with Hudler still on the team...re-sign Miller instead. Wolski for Hudler....get it done! ^^^^This for sure! I seem to remember another whipping boy that came here in a trade, Larry Murphy...and those fans are worse than the NY fans...Larry worked out just fine and so would Wolski...

Geez, who are you trying to acquire a 1987 version of Wayne Gretzky? Sheesh! It's super funny how Eva is always trying to keep Hudler here and trade Filppula..."blah blah blah, don't see a trade happening unless it involves Fil, blah blah blah...Hudler 1st line sniper blah blah blah trade Fil and Franzen blah blah blah Hudler is the Wings best player blah blah blah...hudler..." of course for some of us, everything involves trading Hudler....blah blah blah Hudler sucks, trade him! Anyhow I am up for anything involving Hudler's departure! I guess even if it involved Filppula too... edit: Hey Z and D, you beat me to that point about Eva and Hudler/Fil and also the blah blah blah! Too Funny! Also, funny is he is always saying Top 6 forward when talking about Hudler...dude, Helm is a better top 6 forward than Hudler...GET.OVER.IT.

I s*** you not, Rob Torrence (the father) used to work with me!!! I've known met him 1994! OMG, I didn't even know his son was in that condition!!! He was "relieved of his duties" a about 5-8 years ago... wow! His nickname was/is Tumbleweed... Thank you Sergei, thank you.... After watching the and hearing that the disease started when his boy was 7, it's no wonder I didn't know about it...sad...but at least he has gotten some help.... God Bless you Tumbleweed and your son!