LeftWinger

I loved how Lee Norwood was called Hack N Whack. You got Oatsie, Burrsy, Yzerman was also called Silk, Hanlon was called the Fly, Gallant was Spudsie...

The worst team in Wings history? 1990-91 76 points, 1991-92 98 points, 1992-93 103 points.... HARDLY the worst teams in Wings history... That honor goes to Greg Stefan and Mark LaForest 1985-86 40 points... *see your last line of your post.... perhaps you should look it up...

Oxymoron....

...a bit on topic though, it would be kinda funny if after the opposing team lost, the Joe played the Willy Wonka Rant from the end of the movie: "You Get Nothing! You Lose! Good Day Sir! I said GOOD DAY SIR!"

Thats good! But honestly, I can't get tanked with my three kids (12, 7 and 3) with me... But compared to most Arena's around the league, the Joe is pretty quiet...

...I don't think ANY nationality should be putting that anywhere near his mouth!

I guess as long as you define "This is a Red Wings game" as a boring yawn fest, because that is what most fans do, sit on their hands and text on their phones... I understand the generic label, but dang it, play something that is gonna pump up the crowd, not the same old Motown track....

Oh yea! I was so disgusted by Nicky, that I forgot about the N...

it's UNCANNY! Willie Cleary!

I absolutely HATE that! I though Daniel Cleary was weird sounding, but Danny reminds me of little Ronnie Howard.... I also HATE Bill Clements, Nicky Lidstrom, thank God that jackass is off the air!

Ya :puke: How about an Irishman because he is great and can shoot the lights out? Not just to hear a stupid little jig musical after a goal! Franzen Scores! - Cue up Edgar Winters Frankenstein Adbelkader scorers! - Bill Haileys See ya later Alligator! Hudler - Who am I kidding, Hudler doesn't score... Lidstrom! - Santa Claus is coming to town! Holmstrom! - The Police, Demolition Man! Perhaps the best that is the worst, Mursak scores! - The theme to Miami Vice or Crocketts Theme (Jan Hammer stick with me here) PA.THE.TIC

Isn't the correct Irish name for Patrick, Padrid or Padric? But ya, here in the NAU we use Patty, and trust me,I know how much real Irish folks hate the term St. Patty's Day!

Ok, this is getting ridiculous! I am so tired of all these "Songs with Meaning" crap at the Joe! No other arena does this and it makes the Joe look silly! Can we please just go back to random music playing and a fog horn for a goal and then maybe go back to Gary Glitter's Rock N' Roll part 2? Hell it was even cool when they played EMF Unbelievable after every goal. I am so sick of the music after a penalty or a power play and if I have to listen to Billy Joel after a 4th goal again, I am gonna puke! It is not even a fun experience at the Joe anymore. I was tired of Budd Lynch, but this new guy sucks! How about someone with some pizzazz? Don't get me started on Karen Newman! I know I sound like an anti-fan, but there is no "EXPERIENCE" at the Joe anymore. It's almost as bad as a Tiger's game when you have to hear 45 seconds of each players "walk to the home plate" music 4 or 5 times a game! Simple is best, you put too much thought into it and it all comes out sounding dumb! Simple, Wings score, blow the Fog Horn, play a goal song. Just one! Not one for each player! Whats next? Datsyuk scores! followed by the playing of Tatu's They're not gonna get us! Zetterberg scores - How Sweet(Swede)it is to be loved by you! Miller - MSU fight song? Eaves - Eve of Destruction? Modano - Mojo Rising part of LA Woman? Howard makes a great save - Howard The Duck? ...it's that bad guys, I can see clearly now the rain has gone? Gimme a break! Hey they can play that song when the ref makes a bad call or misses a call, Nell Carter's Gimme A Break! The Joe is the most Un-Cool place to go watch a game.

...just a question about "pushing" his contract. If this happens, and he asks for a trade in the off season, does he still get exposed to waivers or can Snow trade him outright? If this is the case, then this is a great move by Holland, because if Snow trades him to the Wings, the Wings get Nabokov for a full season at $570,000 instead of three months. He would just have to convince Lids and Modo to hang around for "JUST ONE MORE" try! Of course we may lose Hudler in the deal...DARN!

Well, it actually took Ilitch about 7 years to be a perennial winner in the league and only about 12 years to be a perennial Stanley Cup contender, so decades is a stretch. Fedorov defected at the 1990 Goodwill Games in Seattle, when his team was here playing in the games, so there was nothing underhanded there (sure Ilitch probably enticed him to do so, but Fedorov still had to do it on his own and he did it legally.) Petr Klima on the other hand is whole different story. The actually were running through the woods with him (not Ilitch, but Wings officials) to an awaiting car where the took off with him and on to the United States. Ironically Konstantinov faked in-operable(in Russia) brain injury that could only be fixed in the United States. That is when he defected...

Well considering that the only reason Snow GOT him is because of Hollands footwork. Do you think Nabokov would even consider signing that contract with the Islanders outright? So, Snow didn't get him for that amount, he was handed him for that amount because of a stupid rule. But alas, it is a rule, so he is an Islander. But Snow is an idiot, he probably thought they were buddies because he is a former goaltender and hey have that goaltender comradeship. Hey Snow, CLICK! Just like when Barry Sanders told Matt Millen to get off his porch! "But Barry, it's me! Matt Millen!"

This! Howard was a rookie last season and played like one in the playoffs. Is Holland willing to take that chance again this season, especially with the chance he may lose Lidstrom at the end of it. If they want to try to win another one while Lids is here, Modano, Draper, etc... He needs to make a move (which is why he signed Nabokov.) I'd like to see Vokoun here, but he makes waaaay too much money for the Wings to afford.

I voted yes and I played. I didnt vote because of those particular players, but please just someone that stands up to somebody! The Wings are a bunch of Pu$$ies... A player gives your BEST defensman an illegal head shot, breaking his jaw and sidelining him for 6 weeks and.nobody.does.a.thing. Even Abdelkader was right there and didnt do a thing... Sure, I know the Wings can win without this type of player, but it would come alot easier if the opposing jack-assess had something else to worry about out there.

Hudler for Nabokov....

I said this a couple of years ago when Brad signed his contract, and boy did I get lit up! I guess that is because Kronwall was Nick, Jr. and he just played an awesome 2008 playoff and Ericsson was supposed to be the next best thing behind Kronwall. Fast forward to now and it looks like Stuart is gonna wind up being the #1 guy here after Nick retires, especially if its next season. Both Brad and Rafalski are signed thru next year, I can see Stuart getting a raise and Rafalski taking a cut. But next season, if Lids goes, we have Rafalski for the offensive end, I believe we need to get better (or tougher) on the defensive end. Someone maybe like Wisneiwski. We all know there is NO replacing Lidstrom, but the time is gonna come when you have to deal with it. Since we seem to have no choice but to have Kronwall here, we have two offensive minded defensmen in him and Rafalski, Stuart is their best defensman right now (uninjured) anyhow, and then add Wiesnewski, then let the young guys battle it out for the 6th and 7th spot. (assuming Salei isn't gonna be around either) I refuse to give Kindl the 6th spot because I just don't think he is good enough... Honestly the UFA defensive pool is not that good this off-season...

Crosby..... not as close as you though it would be....

inreality though, it also circimvents a UFA's abiltity to sign where he wants. Lets say 34 year old European player Hok Ptew is playing in Finland, he hires a North American agent and becomes a UFA in the NHL, he only negtiates with ONE team, and signs there, if he's any good, he'll never play there. That is not an UNRESTRICTED Free Agent. That is what the NHLPA fought for... It's ok for the league to control where a player goes, but the UFA cannot control his own destiny. UFA means UFA. It's big government in sports...

why would it be collusion? teams dump salary all the time. A low seeded team claims Nabokov off waivers, then at the trade deadline the decide to dump salary. Just because they claim Nabokov off waivers from Detroit doesn't mean they can ever trade with them again does it? Team wants to dump salary and Detroit just happens to be in the market for a top 6 forward (at a cheap cost.) Other teams may think its a little fishy, especially if they offer "MORE" for that player, but teams do it all the time with division rivals. They'll ask for the world from a division rival and take much less from an out of conference team...

Crosby would be a great comparison! They didn't call him Floppa for nothing! What is it a player once said about him, when he has the puck he is the hardest player to play against, but when he doesn't have the puck, all you got to do is breathe on him and he goes down... Ya, sounds like Cindy to me!