LeftWinger

so when are the protected list required to be submitted? I am getting antsy and want this off-season to officially kick off!

I honestly think Suter would help out here. Sure, he wouldn't be around to see the end of the rebuild, but again, much like Bobby Ryan, he could be had for cheap now and then if we need to trade him at the TDL so be it, if not, and he stays a couple of years, like you said, he would be a great mentor for Sieder. 1 or 2 years x $1.5M sounds nice!

Ya, that's my extreme trade scenario. Fantasy. But wouldn't that be great?

So, rumors about Yzerman possible moving the 23rd to Vancouver for Eriksson contract and the #9OA. Most definitely expect Wallstedt at 6 if that happens.

Edmonton fans blowing a gasket. Welcome to Ken Holland-land Edmonton! Re: Bertuzzi To VAN : Bertuzzi, Zadina To DET : Quinn Hughes, 2nd rounder. Eriksson salary dump. let's do this!

apart from Bertuzzi having some value and having a couple teams calling about him, and also being about 2 years too old (27 in Feb) for the rebuild, I think Yzerman has him ready to be dealt because he will probably go to arbitration again, get a 1 year contract and become a UFA after the season. Yzerman wants to deal him for returns in case he walks UFA next summer. I am sure Bertuzzi would like to stay but also he is probably very intrigued about teams being interested in him. Trade him. to TOR : Tyler Bertruzzi, 2021 5th, much needed cap relief if they want to better their team. to DET : Mitch Marner, Timoty Liljegrin, 2022 1st. - or - to VAN : Tyler Bertuzzi, Dennis Cholowski (or Lindstrom) to DET : Brock Boeser, Vasili Podkolzen, 2022 1st ... I am still sticking with these: to TPA : 2021 3rd round draft pick to DET : Andrej Palat, Alex Killorn, Hugo Alnefelt ( I guess if they wanted to replace one of those with Johnson that'd be fine. Besides Alnefelt They're all TDL bait.) I'd have to change up the Pit trade though since I don't want to lose both 3rd rounders: to PIT : 2021 4th round draft pick, rights to Evgeny Svechnikov (or maybe a D prospect) to DET : Markus Pettersson all this is POST expansion draft.

Friedman is now reporting Yzerman indeed taking calls on Bertuzzi. Believes Toronto and Vancouver are front runners

I'm betting Nielsen and Dekeyser. Are we only alloted 2? Is there another window? I thought it had something to do with arbitration filings later...

I happen to believe Bertuzzi will be dealt.

Well we know Yzerman can outdo Holland. Just depends if he sees Hyman helping this team move forward.

Has anyone been bought out yet? Sheesh, from the sound of the writers, I thought there'd be a bunch. When does the window close?

Sign and trade Hyman to us. I'd like to guarantee he stays here.

...depends on what's coming back? This IS Steve Yzerman we're talking about. Toronto are looking for players that will get them past the 1st round and beyond. They NEED intangibles. What would you do if they offered: 1st, Liljegren, sign and trade Andersson? Maybe more? They need to shed salary because Bertuzzi isn't the only one they're targeting. They'll a UFA or two anyway.

https://www.si.com/hockey/news/red-wings-could-target-cap-strapped-teams-for-a-defenseman?fbclid=IwAR2t_6Pmq3_sa64SLm3CcIuRhXuOEJRJdymr-itsQ1Xj-kl-SjlEdzDLARU

Acquiring: Alnefelt, Palat and Marcus Pettersson. Signing: Koekkoek, Ullmark. Re-signing: Ryan, Glenny, Staal All RFA's except Brome, Djoos and Svechnikov.

I'm officially going on record saying Wallstedt is gone before 6 and Cossa is gone before 22. Forcing Yzerman to acquire Alnefelt and Palat from his old buddy for the low price of a 5th.

I made the big league! Although I'm right on that cusp...

All this back and forth about Larkin and whether he is our #1 C and if he should have the C because he may not be our #1, but in the glory days, Yzerman was not our #1 C either, that was Fedorov. Yzerman is not going to award the C to Larkin and then take it away, that is not his style or this organization's. This is not San Jose or any other Mickey Mouse team that pretends to be as prestigious as us. Yzerman can draft or trade for a REAL ELITE #1 C and Larkin will still and always (while he is here) be our Captain. That is just how this organization is.

He might pick Wall at 6 AND Cossa at 22!

I remember all the talk of Yzerman taking Askarov at #4 last draft. Same reason's and same logic. He obviously thought he needed to fill a different need first. Maybe this is the year of the G? I just don't see it at #6, but it all depends on who is left there. Maybe already having two legit D in Seider and Hronek, he doesn't even look at a D and goes with a forward, specifically a Center, which is our glaring hole. BUT, would whichever C that is left at #6 actually BE a shoe in for a #1C, even on our team? Would he be good enough to push Larkin to the 2nd line? Honestly, I think we have enough top 6 wingers to move forward with to avoid drafting a straight up RW or LW this year, but if for some reason Beniers drops to 6? or if they see Eklund playing C? Are any of them a legit #1C prospect? Beniers may be the only one, and I am pretty sure 5 teams are not going to pass on him. So maybe, BPA avail will be Wall? It is a gap in our system. I trust Yzerman, if he takes Wall, then I am ok with it.

to be fair, he already had an all world D in Hedman a top D on any team in the league, and at the time a #1 Elite C in Stamkos. Sure Seider seems to be a shoe in for a top 2, if not #1 D in the NHL, but, and all due respect to Larkin, we don't have that Top C. Not saying it's available in this draft, we can always hope we win one of the next two lotteries, but I don't see that happening, plus honestly, I'm tired of tanking to get screwed. I want to start looking forward, not at lottery picks. If Yzerman thinks Wall is the guy, I'm on board. I guess it also all depends on who he see's drafting at #22. Maybe we find a C there that is develops into a top 2 C? It all depends on who is on his board and if they fall to #6 or not. Let's say their board is as follows: Power Hughes Beniers Wallstedt Edvisson McTavish ...if Wallstedt is the number 1 guy left on his board when the pick comes up, he's taking him. If any of the 3 ahead of him falls to #6, he's taking them. (I am not saying this is his board, just hypothetically.)

A good question is, how does Wallstedt compare to Askarov? Better or no? Askarov went 11th last year. IF Wallstedt is not projected to be as good or better, I just think #6 is too risky. if he is projected to be better or already is, then maybe he goes in the top 10. re: the article saying he is the best goalie to come out of Sweden. That's fine, but I don't want to best goalie from Sweden, I want the BEST goalie. Just being the best in one region doesn't mean he's going to be the best in the NHL of even in the top 5. Steve is gonna pick who he wants, and he doesn't care if it seems like a reach or surprise at the time. I would not be surprised if he picks Wallstedt, but I would not be surprised if he doesn't, and "reaches" for someone else.

I'm not putting words on someone else's keypad, but it just sounds like that is what he is saying. Especially if we wait until 22 or 23 to draft one. I happen to think Cossa would be ready much sooner than 2028 myself. But, much like draft's in the past, we can only hope the pick pans out no matter who and no matter where.

Maybe Rangers take him at 9? They chose another RW in that spot. But you are right on with him falling further than 7 if we didn't pick him. If Detroit took Hughes, I could see Vancouver and Chicago still going D since there were still 3 or 4 good ones on the board.

unless you're egging him on, I believe he means that whomever Yzerman drafts that is not names Wallstedt won't be developed and in Detroit until at least 2028.