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You guys wouldn't trade Hudler? Gimme a break! Hudler/Emmerton & 2nd rounder... Done deal. Savard will outscore Hudler on this team, Emmerton is never going to get his chance here and The Wings draft pretty well, so losing the 2nd wouldnt hurt us too much. If Detroit trades up in the first and gets McIlrath or Tinordi, then also adds Savard, this future looks bright. Sure Hudler will probably score 25-30 goals and get his 50 points, but Savard?!?!? Really? This shouldn't even be a question, do it Holland! DO IT NOW! Hudler showed no loyalty, he bolted for the KHL befdore his arbitration was even complete, I dont get why you guys are even welcoming him back! You guys were all pissed when Fedorov left and you f'ing boo him, you said he turned his back and left, bump Hudler! He's a buster! Let him get his first line minutes in Boston and give us a guy who could EASILY get 100 points in the Winged Wheel! Franzen Savard Bertuzzi -- Thats scary! That would also fill everyones want for a top 6 forward! Then we can forget all this talk about the 4th line grinder. Re-sign Helm, Abby, one of Miller or Eaves and give Ritola the 13th spot. Get your 6th defensman for the $1M or so and bring on the Cup! Savard > Hudler in any way, shape or form, on any given sunday-saturday and 24 hours a day! at the Hudler slappies!

Did I miss something? I thought Boston had the #15 pick, did the make a trade? EDIT: Ahhhhhh! Thanks Carman! I missed that!

Hmmmm, was it Ben Eager that made those comments about Pronger? I could be wrong, but if it was, should be interesting matchups this season....

If McIlrath or Tinoridi are there at #21 (and we dont trade down) and if Holland decides to pick more of the same, I will puke... In that case, I hope neither of them are there when he drafts just so I don't throw my remote thru the LCD!

Dunno, he may end up on the 3rd line, but almost guaransheed he'd be on the second power play unit at the point. He still has a helluva blast from there, much better than J Willy...

He could always sign with the aves for a season, retire, and have his number retired in two cities....

Ya ya, we'll hear the chant, let em chant. Too bad half of their Cup winning players will be playing elsewhere that night! Hell, there might even be one on the opposing team that night! Wonder why, since they blew their cap load, people aren't saying that the Hawks "BOUGHT" the Cup? In a Cap world that has to be the closest thing to BUYING the Cup than anything, right?

Well, this would be interesting, eh? I would love it personally, does he have anything else to give? He can still fly like an eagle thats for sure, he still finishes his checks, and he aint too bad on the point on the powerplay (a lot better than Jason Williams) Although, tongue in cheek, I do agree with trading Hudler for the higher pick, but if we end up having $1m - $1.2M available, why not see what he brings? I am sure he would end his career hoisting the Cup with the team he grew up loving! ...and they lived happily ever after.

Hey! Hey! Hey! Easy guys! We all know that I am the most foolish poster!

Uh, if the RFA's all re-sign, there will be NO more additions to the lineup. With Helm, Abby, Eaves & Miller all being qualified then add Ritola to the mix, we already have 14 forwards, so ya, it'll be the same team plus Hudler. Now if one or both of Miller & Eaves don't re-sign, then we're talking another addition form outside the organization, at least I think we are.... On defense, they will probably just re-sign Lilja so you are looking at the same top six that and same top 12 forwards that lost in the 2nd round, plus Hudler.... Yee Haw! That's what I said!

Ya and Kirk Maltby once scored 50 goals in juniors too! at Hudler being labeled a sniper! Yep, just like we all fear, same team plus Hudler, Stanley Cup here we come!

I hear what your saying, wouldn't it be nice to coax Fetisov and Larionov back to become the assistants? No offense to Paul MacLean. Didn't I hear that he was being allowed to interview for a head coaching job somewhere?

The difference is, Maltby has more hockey left in him than McCarty did in 2008. But your scenario makes a lot of sense, although, if he signs at $500,000 and gets sent down, I have a feeling that some team will snag him up for his leadership and veteran experience. On the right team, he could play a big role in the depth category. Plus like it has been stated before, do we know if Maltby will even agree to play in GRR?

Dude, ignore me all you want, I will not ignore you, I love different opinions, so you copied the term from the board, ok, I then apologize for saying you had the tendencies, I will point that towards the original author of the article. On topic, this is good news for those of us who prefer a more North American style of play, but if you look around, the Europeans that are here are mostly the superstars, so the North American's probably make up the third of fourth lines on most teams. I am fine with that, hopefully McIlrath falls to us, or Holland trades up to get him and we get that Chris Pronger type play that this team needs...

Hmmmm, lets see I joined in August 2003 and have over 3200 posts, you just joined last March and have 56 posts, now I am not calling you a troll just because you just joined, but my stats alone say that I am not a troll here, there may be a lot of folks who don't agree with my opinions, which I think is great, what kind of forum would this be if everyone held hands and sang koom-by-ya together? We love difference of opinions here, that is what makes this place so great! And if you read my post, I said I would like to see more gritty North American players, that is not saying I am against European players, Fedorov is my all time favorite player, but just because some of us don't like the players like Hudler, we are haters. I do not call the folks who prefer hudler style players North American haters, do I? Also, there is a difference between saying "You hate European's" and "You're a Euro-Hater?" Uh.... is your real name John Kerry?

Have you guys ever heard the term Strategic Default? If not, that's when you purposely stop paying payments in order to go into foreclosure ON PURPOSE to get out of your house. The reason vary, some people owe more than what the house is now worth (thanks to the government and banks) that's called an upside-down mortgage. Some folks just cannot sell their home and either cannot afford to live there anymore (I doubt this is Sergei's problem) or they have already living somewhere else and cannot sell the house(s.) (This I think is Sergei's situation) I cannot know for sure what his situation is, but if he plans to not ever come back from the KHL, he has no need for two homes over here. Even if he does plan to come back, it is not illegal to default on your loan's. The bank gives you money to purchase a house, you agree to pay them the money back plus interest, or give them back their property. That is probably what Sergei is doing, I cannot afford to live here anymore, so here is your house. Foreclosure is not illegal, it is not unethical or it is not wrong and Sergei (or anyone) should feel NO shame, or have the need for sympathy. Sergei has enough cash that if and when he comes back to the states he will have no problem buying a house that he can afford. The only negative foreclosure has is on your credit, whoopee ******* doo! You shouldn't buy anything unless you have the cash anyhow, f*** the banks and the federal reserve! I say good for you Sergei! Let them have the homes! Problem is, the banks don't want them, so in the end they will either sit empty or resell for penny's on the dollar or they will give Fedorov a hell of a deal to settle. WE CONTROL THE BANKS, THEY DON'T CONTROL US! The banks have insurance money to cover their loses, they also got the bailout, so they don't care about us, so I say f*** them! I will not be controlled! I am not Sheeple or a debt slave, the revolution will NOT be televised. Your heard the term, "hell hath no fury like a women scorned" well the People are scorned, soon hell be brought to the elitist! When it comes, which side will you be on?

So, just because there are some of us on here that would like to see some more big a gritty North American players in the league, rather than small (for the most part) and afraid of body contact (again, for the most part) players, we are hate Europeans? I think your title alone says that you have racial tendencies by calling them Euro's. I prefer white women in my life, does that mean I am a African women hater or a Asian women hater? So call me a hater because I prefer Dylan McIlrath over kirill kabanov....

"Dylan McIlrath is still there at #15, so Jim and I regroup and say, make the deal, trade Boston our 21st pick along with the famous future considerations and draft that kid!" -Andersson at 2010 Entry Draft. What? Oh, excuse me, good morning, I must have been dreaming!

Let me just say !!! Either him or try to persuade Larionov to be one! Did you watch the same season as we did?

Actually two way or one way doesn't really matter, he can be sent down on a one way contract, the only difference is he will be making the same money here or there. Two way means, he makes an AHL salary there and a NHL salary here. Either way, he probably wouldn't clear waivers, someone out there is looking for veteran experience and leadership, if Maltby has anything left, it's that. He knows how to win, he would bring a positive attitude to any dressing room and he is a leader on the ice. That being said, I really hope he doesn't re-sign. What's next, give Draper a two year extension? Just cut your ties now, if you really appreciate what Maltby has done for this team, save him the embarrassment of being sent to the minors, let him become a UFA July 1st and let him go play somewhere he may actually get NHL minutes, as for here, he has done all he can do, and being a 13th of 15th forward is just not worth him coming back, for HIM or the team.

Here's the issue, With Hudler coming back, Holmstrom & Bertuzzi being re-signed and all RFA's being given qualifying offers, there just isn't any room on the forwards roster for anyone else. Lets say, Helm and Abby are guarantee's (which they are) and both Miller AND Eaves re-sign, throw Ritola in there and that is 14 forwards. Someone at work today mentioned that Abby MIGHT have another year of GRR option, but I am not sure, but even still that is a full forward roster. We'd have to bet on one or both of Eaves and Miller to not accept their offers and then we'd be able to get another forward. To me, it looks like this is going to be the same Wings forwards plus Hudler, minus Maltby (although I saw a thread on here that Holland might offer Malts a contract? For what, to carry the puck bags around?) Anyhow, if everyone re-signs up front, that'll probably leave around $1.2M for a 6th defenseman (whether it be Lilja or not) then that leaves NOTHING for injury call-ups or trade deadline acquisitions... Same team, plus Hudler. I will give Hudler his 25-30 goals, but I am not so sure that he will be the missing piece to get us back the the Finals. I know Holland is going to let Lidstrom play as long as he wants to, but unfortunately we have too much money wrapped up in only a few people. Rafalski being another. Guess we will see what the off season of 2011 brings us for change, because it looks like there won't be much if any changes in 2010...

Well, so no McIlrath..... DAMN!

isn't it funny that everytime some mentions something about wanting to get bigger and they are kinda bored with all the small players on the Wings, they get a negative? It's like just because someone would like to see a player above 6'2" and over 210lbs. they aren't really a Wings fan. (bring on the negatives) edit: I gave you a positive to bring you back even! Plus I totally agree with you! I got two negatives just because! Too Funnyt! I didn't even say anything negative! You guys really are ****** bags!

I could be wrong, but I do believe that a 1 way contract still counts against the Cap? Maybe... I do know if someone claims him on re-entry waivers Chicago is accountable for half that cap hit for the entire contract... Either way Chicago gambled and won the battle, but are going to lose the war and there wont be a repeat next year. I believe its Ovechkin's turn to win the Cup...

Was he ever seriously going to make it to Detroit anyhow? There's the trade, Tollefsen plus our first rounder to Boston for the #15 pick... No? Shoot I dont know! I really dont care about him, he'd spend two more years in GRR with the ocasional call up (maybe) then move on somewhere else, may as well go now. No sweat off our backs. In hindsight, Darren Helm, Kris Versteeg, Mike Brown, Lee Stepniak, Brad Richardson, James Wisniewski, Kyle Wellwood, Travis Moen & John Michael Lyles were all 5th round picks respectively, would any of those type guys be fair trade for Leino if Holland scores in the 5th round? Draft is a gamble, but those are all good examples of 5th round picks that worked out, plus there are plenty of even later round picks in the last 10 years that would be worth trading Leino for...