LeftWinger

did someone already mention that the 'big time' players get their money and now have no heart? Where has Zetterberg been? He is supposed to be the next Captain after Lidstrom? He hasn't earned it this year! If he played this bad last season, he would be making Filppula money, if that! The leaders of this team need to step it up! They haven't been here all year and heads need to roll!

I am going to go ahead and use the Osgood Theory on that one. With the talent on that team and as good as they played, my Gramma could've captained that team to the Stanley Cup...

just because my friend hates him, doesn't mean I do. I like Lids, let me re-state it, for so long we as Wings fans were spoiled by possibly the greatest Captain to ever captain a team, and Lids is no Yzerman, so we are waiting for the team to respond to something he says, much like the team responded to Yzerman. Again, though, Bertuzzi/Williams suck...

I certainly hope that Ken Holland realizes after the season that the Todd Bertuzzi/Jason Williams experiment is over. Bertuzzi hasn't been the same since he stopped taking roids after the Steve Moore incident and Williams, well, Williams has always sucked. I do kinda agree that this team lacks serious leadership, God bless Lids, but he is not a very good Captain. Not wanting to, but have to point out that Kronwall was on the ice for both goals and he was way out of position. I have never been a Kronwall fan, and still think he should have been traded at the draft to move up as far as they could have. Maybe it'll happen this off season, but his value this time of the year compared to this time last year is severely less. Seriouly though, Bertuzzi sucks, God please do not re-sign him! PLEASE!!!!

you cannot argue with Crosby slappies....

So there is a rule in the book that pretty much says that if Bettman thinks the refs made the wrong call, he can overturn it and make his own ruling up? So for ALL those goal call off that were obviously in the net, or the ones that were called a goal, that were plainly upon video evidence that weren't in the net, he could have called them the opposite because he has rules that overturn his refs decisions? We aren't drinking the kool-aid today, sorry. Bettman changes the rules as he goes along in order to suit him and what he wants done. He knows as well as the entire world knows, that if Malkin didn't play in game three, Wings go up 3-0 in series and pretty much wrap up the series. Next you'll be telling us a man in a cave planned and executed 9/11!

not entirely true. He'd have to playing for the 'guins, going into a pivotal game 3, he would have to be carrying his team, then he would initially be suspended, but then after the game, Bettman would rescind the penalty that was called during the game, destroying all video evidence, removing all vids from google, youtube, etc, etc, thus allowing him to say the instigator, er, oops, hit never happened and then he would allow him to play in game three, factoring in on all 3 goals scored, thus changing momentum of the series and single-handedly giving the Stanley Cup to the undeserving 'guins, yet again. Then telling him that if he and others don't want to shake hands, its ok, you don't have to, because you and your team are Gods...

Must Win.... Go Wings!

This is what he meant to say.....

Here is a question for all you Hudler slappies out there. When the Wings can expand their roster for the playoffs, is there anything saying that Hudler CANNOT decide to come back early and join the team for the playoffs?

Did you happen to catch the Devils/Penguins game yesterday? In honor of St. Patrick's Day, the Devils brought out the old Green pants and jersey's! They did look good! I say I am with ya, bring em' back permanently!!!

lose Meech, Lebda, Williams and gain Andrew Ladd & Willie Mitchell. But that all depends on how our pending FA's treat us...

Genetics: They're the damnedest things!

Well, that wouldn't be the first time Holland gaffed up by offering then taking it away later, thus pissing off the player.... see: Fedorov

The problem with what Hudler did, was he handcuffed Ken Holland by NOT accepting the $3.whatever Million and opted for arbitration all but causing Hossa to go to the Hawks. As rumor had it, Hossa would've re-signed here for the rest of his career for a little more than $4MM per season cap hit. The fact that Holland was forced by Hudler to wait and wait pretty much was the only reason Hossa is not a Red Wing right now. And something tells me that if he was a Red Wing right now, they wouldn't be battling for the 8th playoff spot... Thanks Hudler, I am glad you were eliminated and PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, don't ever come back!

Yes....They are, and if it were Crosby or Malkin, the NHL would rescind the Game Misconduct so neither would have to be suspended at all...

Release him and still have his $1.4M count against the cap? That would be pointless... Osgood will be the backup net season, play occasionally and get his 400 wins and then quietly retire a Red Wing (which he earned) and as possibly the BEST Goalie to ever play in Detroit (at least stat-wise.)

I think with all the injuries we did have this year, the guys on the cusp of making this team had every opportunity to showcase their talents this year with the Wings. Kindl, Ritola, etc... didn't make a good enough impression to make this club during the injuries, so what makes you think they will be worth the chance next season? For the money, I think Miller deserves to be re-signed before Ritola gets the call up.

Thats it? Seems to me Canada lost to and then barely beat USA, so I would say the USA had a team that was just as good if not better than the Canadian team. OH Gee, you give Miller the third string? he outplayed both Luongo and Broduer throughout the tourney. God I wish these cocky ass Canadians would stop with the holier than thou attitude already! One lucky bounce between a gold and a silver. Thats it. It wasn't a totally dominate Canadian over an inferior USA team, it was one lucky bounce. Get over yourselves.... 1952...

Thanks for calling me an idiot. What are your suggestions for next year to make this team a top 5 team again? And please don't mention anything about Hudler :puke: coming back...

Gee, I'm sorry, nevermind. There should be NO changes next year, lets give Lidstrom $10M, lets give Bertuzzi $2M, lets give Williams $2M, lets give Holmstrom $2M, Helm and the rest of the FA's can battle it out for the remaining money.... All Hail This Years Detroit Red Wings! The BEST roster ever assembled! Stanley Cup, the next 5 years in a row! Too much Lidstrom love here! The guy needs to step up and take a HUGE paycut if he wants to win again. Whats the use of him coming back if he's gonna suck up 3/4's of the available cap room? Why come back and just lose again and not make the payoffs? (again)

Ya give up $5MM US Non-Taxed, for $2.3 US TAXED.... Thats a hoot!

agreed! Too bad we had so much hope for him last year! We should've package Him, Hudler's rights & our first and second round pick for Tampa's 2nd overall and got Hedman....

Well that reply added alot to the conversation... We aren't winning with this team, period. If Bertuzzi wants more, he is free go elsewhere, that is why it is called UNRESTRICTED. Holmstrom needs to take a HUGE paycut if he wants to re-sign, or take a hike. Eaves would be the same pay as this year, Helm will get a raise, Miller would get a raise, Abdelkader will get a raise. Lidstrom needs to sign for no more than $4MM or Holland will not be able to improve this team. The Wings are more than one player away from being a contender again. They need to take to $16MM they have available and get multiple players for it. Mitchell is at $3.5M right now, will he get offers for more than $4.5? Probably, but you never know. Chicago is ALREADY over the cap for next year and unless they can unload Huet or Campbell, they stand to lose Ladd, Eager, Fraser, Hendry, Hjalmarsson & Niemi who are ALL RFA's and need to be signed or lose them...

We need to add Andrew Ladd & Willie Mitchell and that is what will make this team better next year. IF we re-sign ANY of the old timers, it needs to be for $500,000 or they can leave. The exception be Lidstrom, but he does need to sign for LESS than $4,000,000. If he wants to play one more season, he knows, he cannot handcuff the Wings from getting a couple of players to make this team better. Bertuzzi, Holmstrom, Maltby, Eaves, etc all making $500,000 and LIdstrom making $3M would allow that. I say bye bye, Lilja, Maltby, Williams, Meech AND Lebda... The guys who should get the raises are Helm & Miller. Abdelkader will get a slight raise, but nothing of significance. Bertuzzi ($500,000) Holmstrom ($500,000) Eaves ($500,000) Helm ($750,000) Miller ($650,000) Abdelkder ($950,000) Lidstrom ($3,000,000) Thats $6,850,000 in salary and that would leave Holland just over $10,000,000 to improve this team. (Ladd & Mitchell would be a GREAT start!) Although I know Bertuzzi is not going to accept $500,000, but if he doesn't want to build a winner here, then adios!