LeftWinger

Ok, well you had me at hello, then you lost me when you said that Crosby is better than Larionov in his prime. Crosby is a joke compared to everyone of the other names you mentioned, with the exceptions being Thornton and our beloved Datsyuk. Crosby would be destroyed in the 80's style NHL and wouldn't even make the Red Army team, and he wouldn't be half as good in the 90's style of the NHL where the likes of Fedorov, Bure & Forsberg and yes, Larionov excelled. If Crosby was born 15 years earlier, he'd be right about where Eric Lindros is now, mush melon... I have a hockey history too, I have been watching and following since 1979 so I am not just trying to knock Crosby down. (if I were, I would've called him by his LGW name throughout this post)

Detroit v. New Jersey to end the argument once and for all!

Well, considering that Vancouver just may be our first round opponent, that marquee match up will be done and over quickly! Nice that Detroit is getting some props now, but like someone said earlier, I prefer to be the underdog this year. Next year we can be the favorites when we look to repeat!

I agree, but for his 18 goals, $1.5M is far better than $2.8M for 25 from Hudler. (although physically they play the exact same game!) Nah, if Huds comes back and get 25 or more then I guess he'd be welcomed back. I just wish Bertuzzi would hit or be intimidating. I think he made a deal with himself or a higher power that he wouldn't be like that because of his stupidity that ended the career of Moore. So ya, why re-sign him, but if he signs cheap, 18-20 goals is worth it. (the only reason I put $3M ealier is because i was factoring in the Anaheim money falling off the books next year (which is the only reasonhe signed for $1.5M anyway))

....just a couple of fixes, er I mean wishes... Eaves needs to be retained. He will sign another minimum contract for what he brings, which makes it well worth it. Meech won't demand too much of a raise (if any) so for what he brings he probably stays. The only question mrks are what Lids/Lilja/Homer & Bertuzzi are going to want to be paid.

Did we sign Mr. or Mrs. Bertuzzi?

Not being a Homer (no pun intended) I really would like to know exactly what Holmstrom did to deserve a penalty... These refs make me laugh...

Stuart "Kronwalled" Leino

Almost feeling sorry for Ozzie. WTF was Zettererg doing letting Asham go? Unless the Earth tilts the other way, this game is over. Sorry Ozzie... So much for games in hand. Oh I figured out why they can get away with all the penalties, because when they play Penguins they aren't allowed to even look at Crysby, so Buttman told them to keep it all in until today and they can have at it with VERY VERY little consequences...

can't play too well when the opposition is able to do what they want to your star players. WHy does Buttman allow this horrific show of reffing go on in his national games? Way to get some new fans Gary....

Ok, the lack of penalty calls against Philly is getting VERY annoying....

In that same story he said that when Bowman arrived he decided that they dont need to lead the league in fights anymore, then he said went on to say that I guess it works, they've been to the finals twice and won 1 since then.....

So, Philly can pretty much do what they want today..... Thats Bettman for ya...

WHAT!?!?! Did I just hear? Pierre Maguirre said that those were some OLD legs by Danny Cleary moving pretty fast around Pronger? 31? Old? WTF Pierre? Can you find any other way to shoot down the Wings? Face it Pierre, you sucked as a player and a coach and as an announcer you still suck....

There shoulkd be no mention of Crysby until they show the Eastern Conference standings.... Way to go Ozzie....

Lidstrom $4MM.... Please Captain, help us get stronger next year!!! Re-sign Lids, Homer, Bertuzzi, Helm, Abdelkader, Miller, Eaves. The problem is going to be what Bertuzzi is gonna ask for, Anaheim is still paying $1.333MM of his salary from 2007, does that mean he is gonna want $3MM or more? If he wants $3MM with Lidstrom (praying hopefully) takes $4MM that'll leave Holland $10MM to shore up our wanted UFA/RFA and MAYBE get some UFA help from outside the organization! Does anyone know which RFA's in GRR are out of options? We all know Abdelkader will be here for sure, but who else has to be or risk being waived? Other than Ritola? Anyhow, I do believe Holland can get Abdelkader, Helm, Miller & Eaves all re-signed for less than $4MM total. Homer should take $2MM or a little less (please Homer!) What about Lilja? Do we re-sign him or use his $1.2 elsewhere? Ledba and Meech can leave, whatever we get in return for Meech (he's a RFA) will be worth it. Not unless he re-signs for the same money. Maltby should retire also. Williams can do what he pleases, thanks for the help. So: Helm, Eaves, Abdelkader, Miller - $2.7MM Bertuzzi - $3MM Holmstrom - $2MM Lilja - $1MM Lidstrom - $4MM (PLEASE NICK!!!!!!) Ritola - $0.5MM That's $13.2MM leaving roughly $4.5MM. They'll need a 7th defensman, is Kindl ready or will they keep Meech around? My wish? Ladd or Tkachuk up front. (Tkachuk shouldn't cost too much.)

So the predz clinched a playoff spot with 98 points, does that mean if Detroit hits 98 today that they will also clinch? If not, how many point clinch a spot for them. I cannot believe they will end up with 100 points or more! Who'd a thunk it back in February!!!! I am sure gonna enjoy my crow! ps. I would still like to see Ladd and Mitchell or Tkachuk here, but meh, wish in one hand, etc....

And what is the Wings record with Lilja in the lineup?

Nah, Hossa was win it for himself, he is a Cup chaser unfortunately he is stuck in Chicago now and if they don't win it this year, they are done with their cap issues... Win it for Drake, Win it for Duschesne/Robitaille, win it for the Russians, Tkachuk pretty much has been a loyal Blue (and Jet/Coyote.) His career is closing and if he wants a Cup he serously needs to look this off season for his best chance to get one. Say what you will about Pitt and Chicago or Washington, but Detroit should be his first choice. I think he would fit well with this team...

Nah.... How many Harts did Yzerman or Lidstrom win again? Besides, Marty Broduer desered the hArt that season, they only gave Crysbythe Hart because he was the "KID" the Face of the NHL, oh yah, and Gary Buttman's teenage lover. Give me Stamkos today over Crysby ANYDAY... ZERO tolerance for baby s*** in the NHL... he needs to grow up, but he has always been pampered, never had to work for anything, so why should he? He'll be a spoiled brat his entire career, I just hope someone concusses him soon (ala Eric Lindros) so we can watch him turn into a big pile of goo...

Nice lists from everyone. It's very hard to pick since we've had so many top players on our team. 1. Lidstrom 2. Fedorov 3. Yzerman 4. Shanahan 5. Larionov 6. Datsyuk 7. Zetterberg 8. Draper 9. Holmstrom 10. Doug Brown (some folks seem to forget just how good this guy was on this team.) Honorable mention and also can be placed in the top 10, Maltby, Konstantonov and Kozlov. Cannot forget Paul Coffey, he won a Norris Trophy while playing with the Wings. Osgood, Chelios, Fetisov, Murphy, the list can go on and on. Lapointe, Hull.... Folks will argue their favorite players, either way they fill out their top 10, but no matter how you line them up, these top 5 will always be the top 5. Whether they fall in my order or a whole other order, you cannot argue with these top 5....

yes, so did Hossa, but typical Holland will give Lidstrom all the time he wants to decide and then lose out on all the good UFA's including our own and then give Lidstrom $7MM and waste what little cap space we'll have after that on Jason Williams, Haken Puken and Finneas Ferb. BTW, :puke: on Hudler coming back, use that $3MM somewhere else... I'd rather have Tkachuk here for a little veteran motivation to "win it for him..."

Hmmmmmm, funny, Crysby is the face of the NHL he has 47 goals and 94 points. Steve Stamkos is NOT the face of the NHL, he has 45 goals and 86 points. Both very impressive. Pretty close in comparison and importance to their teams. Here's the difference: Go to YouTube.com and type in the words Stamkos Dive and see the vids that pop up. Now do the same for Cindy, type Crosby Dive.... yep, I would definitely rather have Stamkos than Cathy Lee Crysby... and he is the kind of guy that should be the face of the NHL.

ya, well, just look at the Lightning. In 2004, they only sold out during the finals and even after they won the Cup that year, the following season attendance was back to the normal non sellouts. Hockey doesn't belong in Phoenix or Florida. It barely belongs in Texas or Southern California!

Nope, if Detroit wins and LA wins we go to 1 point behind Nashville and LA remains 1 point behind us. Want to play Nashville on Saturday with the chance to overtake them.