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We need to add Andrew Ladd & Willie Mitchell and that is what will make this team better next year. IF we re-sign ANY of the old timers, it needs to be for $500,000 or they can leave. The exception be Lidstrom, but he does need to sign for LESS than $4,000,000. If he wants to play one more season, he knows, he cannot handcuff the Wings from getting a couple of players to make this team better. Bertuzzi, Holmstrom, Maltby, Eaves, etc all making $500,000 and LIdstrom making $3M would allow that. I say bye bye, Lilja, Maltby, Williams, Meech AND Lebda... The guys who should get the raises are Helm & Miller. Abdelkader will get a slight raise, but nothing of significance. Bertuzzi ($500,000) Holmstrom ($500,000) Eaves ($500,000) Helm ($750,000) Miller ($650,000) Abdelkder ($950,000) Lidstrom ($3,000,000) Thats $6,850,000 in salary and that would leave Holland just over $10,000,000 to improve this team. (Ladd & Mitchell would be a GREAT start!) Although I know Bertuzzi is not going to accept $500,000, but if he doesn't want to build a winner here, then adios!

"Crosby IS God!" Because EVERYTHING that is the NHL IS Crosby, odds are when this play happened, the NBC crew was mentioning Crosby in some form.... He IS God you know....

maybe this trade deadline will be more interesting than we think?

Somebody ought to write Mike Ilitch and get a million signatures and tell him that we are sick of this garbage... IT's obvious that the Wings are under a much stronger microscope than the redt of the teams and we as money paying fans are not going to put up with it anymore! He either calls the NHL out (get his measly fine) or we stop watchng and going to games. This NHL is a joke and it's also fricking ridiculous!

Politics.... You wonder when (or if) Ilitch is gonna say something. For as much money as Ilitch has brought to the NHL since he's become an owener, you would think he would get some respect from Buttman. Maybe he is in on the conspiracy... maybe they all are... GOD DAMN IT MIKE SAY SOMETHING!!!

isn't it funny how stats don't mean s*** unless it pertains to the player you are pining for? Why was Vladdy one of the best defensmen in 1996? Points? No he was a +60, which led the league, that is why he was considered one of the best the short time he was playing, because of his defensive play. I'll take a team full of Staal's with one Ovechkin and win tons more Cups than your Crysby team.... BTW, you get the f*** out of here.... lets see Crysby play ANYWHERE near the game Ovechkin plays, Crysby would hit anyone with his tampon, and if he did, he would cry about being one who falls...

I am glad to have amused you. Staal is a +16, Crysby a +9. Crysby has 42 goals, Staal 16, with 42 goals if you were a great two-way player, you have a much better +/- than only +9. The last time Yzerman was near 42 was in 2000 with 35 goals and finish with a +28. In direct comparison, Ovechkin has 42 goals and is a +43! I think it's obvious who is a one way player and who is a two-way player. For $4MM, Jordan Staal is MUCH better than Crysby at $9MM, for the money, a team full of Staal type players would be more successful than a team full of Crysby type players... But go ahead, laugh out loud. You can have you 42 goals while giving up 33, I'll take 16 goals while giving up 0... edit: Not to mention out own Datsyuk, who last year had 32 and was a +34 and as that argument will forever go on here, a team full of Datsyuk destroys a team for of Crysby's... two-way ALWAYS beats ONE-WAY

WTF? Yzerman was NEVER touted to be the next greatest thing to save hockey, EVER. He was a after thought draft pick when LaFontaine was taken by the Islanders. If he was supposed to be the next Gretzky, he would've gone first overall instead of Brian Lawton. Crysby has played in a post lock-out, no obstruction era of Hockey, along with some pretty great talent on his team. Who did Yzerman have on his team when he was scoring 60 goals? Exactly! Gerard Gallant was the next best player. Plus Yzerman played in whole different NHL along with the two greatest players to ever play the game in Gretzky and Lemeiux. Even while being "Number 3 With A Bullet" (that's for those of you who remember the SI article) he was NEVER touted to be anything better than #3. The first time you ever heard "The Next One" is when Eric Lindros was drafted. Then you heard, Fedorov, the Russian Greatzky, Selanne, the Finnish Gretzky, etc, etc... Took how many years for Yzerman to mature? Yzerman was tearing up the league until his neck injury in 1994 (the year Fedorov won Hart and Selke) and was nearly traded to Ottawa in that off season by Bowman. Bowman took him aside after Ilitch nixt that trade and told him you have one more chance to play my way or its the highway, that is when he became a Selke-Type player. You said you didn't have respect for him when he debuted, but at the time, there wasn't much respect for the Wings all-together. You look at their number 1 picks for the previous few years and couple that along with their continuous ineptness, there was no reason to think another high draft pick was going to change that. But, me being old enough to remember Steve when he first played here, he may not have scored over 100 points as a rookie (although 87 wasn't too bad for that era) GURANTEE he didn't dive, whine and cray as much as the Golden Boy did in his first couple of season's. Comparing Crysby to Yzerman is like comparing Gretzky to Howe, two different types of NHL, I would LOVE to see a 22 year old Gretzky, Lemeiux or Yzerman in today's NHL, you be saying Crysby who? If and when Crysby passes Yzerman in points and awards and Stanley Cups, then MAYBE we can talk about comparisons, but still put Crysby in the league circa 1988 and he isn't half the player he is in todays NHL.

No Jordan Staal, because he is a better two-way player, actually hits, doesn't whine or cry, and was one of the ONLY Penguins that I enjoyed watching last Finals. Oh BTW, he and Hossa were the only Pens to not complain about obstruction in 2008 as well... Crysby may be the poster boy for that team, but Malkin and Staal are the work horses behind it. Much like Obama, poster boy, but doesn't run crap, there are far smarter minds behind running the free world...

The question was, did Crysby's game winning goal all of a sudden earn my respect for him as a player. NO, Hell NO... First of all he did not LEAD a team to the Stanley Cup, if anyone (other than Bettman) did, Malkin did. He was virtually non-exsistant in that game and most of the tourney and was in the right place and the right time to score the game winner. Nothing he did in that tourney made me change my mind about him, he still is too big of a prissy, crybaby, diving idiot to earn my respect. Until he changes that in his game, then he gets none from me. And oh, wiping his nose then shaking hands with the USA in the first game, thats VERY respectable.... He's a ****** whom Canada should be ashamed of. Cannot wait until the amateurs get back into this tourney.....

Ya, invisible the entire tourney and he is in the right place at the right time!!! That's like saying McCarty was all-world for his goal against Philly waaaaay back in 1997... He'll earn my respect when you stops diving, whining, crying, bitching, moaning, smacking his lips when he interviews and actually outplays REAL stars in the NHL. I would Choose Malkin or Staal ocver him ANYDAY!

MUTHA F***IN COMCAST!!! F**K VERSUS!!!!!

Not to mention that the player he grew up loving that made him a Wings fan (Steve Yzerman) also is an American Citizen. Geez, how's that feel? Stevie obviously would rather be an American, now what are you gonna do puckbags?

ok, lets live in the now. How many Gold medals in Olympic Hockey do you have prior to the NHL players participating since 1952? Hmmmmm, ZERO, if you count the NHL players in 2002, you still only have 1 compared to 2 USA Golds. Speaking of many moons ago, when's the last time a Canadian Team won the Stanley Cup? Ouch! Dude, you sound dumb. I don't care who wins tomorrow because it'll be just the same as the Eastern Conference beating the Western Conference. The FINAL is an NHL All Star game, no different. With the exception of a couple of teams in this tourney, it's all been an NHL all star tourney. The Olympics need to be the best AMATEUR players in the world, not paid professionals. Go USA, because I am American, but Gold, Silver or Bronze, it's about consistency. You got 13 Golds, but how many 4th place or worse do you have? Oh, BTW, 1993 is the last time a Canadian team won the Cup, so just in case you weren't born then either (and it sounds that way from your posts) I thought maybe I'd fill ya in... Enjoy the All Star game tomorrow, I got better things to do.

and who said the Canadians folks weren't cocky and full of themselves? Last I checked the medal count was untouchable. I don't care how many Golds you have, it's about consistency across the board. And yo can have the Gold tomorrow, it's just an NHL all star game, exactly like 2002, where were you prior to allowing NHL players in the Olympics? Oh, I see, 1952, that's where you were! You can have one more Gold but until you beat the other 50 states in total medals, you will always be little brother... buh bye now....

AWESOME! I agree, Olympic Hockey was cool, but the Gold Medal game is nothing but an NHL All-Star game... ...proposed NEW Olympic rule, if you get paid to play a sport, you cannot participate in the Olympics. Lets send our College kids and Canada can send their College/Juniors and even the Euro-Teams have to send kids that don't get a salary playing hockey. This All star crap is fun to watch, but it really water's down the meaning of the Olympics. There are plenty of European players out there who aren't yet pros that they can suit up for Team Russia/Sweden/Slovakia/etc.... etc.... This NHL all-star tourney has to end....

That'll begin tomorrow after Canada loses. Face it Canada, no matter what, you'll always be the 51st State...

...and Kovalchuk and Semin and Fedorov and Kozlov and Afinogenov, oh and Nabokov & Bryzgalov. The Canadians have a loaded roster for sure, but the major difference is, Russia knows how to play together, Canadian team is disorganized. (except when it comes to playing teams with very little talent on it.) Canada.....OUT!

The way Canada has played they will need the upset to beat Russia. Who did they beat? Norway and German by large margins. Barely beat Swiss and lost to USA. So the Canadians can beat the snot out of tier B teams, but barely beat and lose to the better teams. Canadian fans are in for a rude awakening against the Russians. Ovechkin is going to destroy Crysby tonight. Malkin is going to prove who the REAL star is in Pitt....

PLEASE! Did or did not the USA just dominate the Canadian team? Thank You.... Canada....DONE!

Fedorov amd Datsyuk will shutdown the Canadians. Ovechkin, Malkin, Kovi and company will destroy the old fart Canadian defense. Sorry, Pronger and Neddy Neiderlender (you naughty boy, bad, naughty...sassy boy) cannot hang with them...

You obviously didnt see the goal then. It was possibly one of the most amazing efforts and goal on an empty net of all time. If Cathy Lee Crysby would've given an half that effort, maybe Canada wouldn't be facing elimination tonight, then if they do advance have to face the Russian Team. (BTW Canada will not bet the Russian's)

What part of your response has anything to do with what I said? We only have around $16MM available next season without Lidstrom, if he gets top dollar he will handcuff the Wings by taking up most of thier money, thus hindering them from changing this team. You cannot tell me you want to see this exact same team next season... I never said Lidstrom sucks or isnt playing like a top 5 d-man OR the best in the world.... Hmmmmm.....

:puke: 'nuff said...

careful, next time you might get a "PWNED" with that "FAIL" I hate the internet language too...