LeftWinger

Amen! I agree whole-heartedly! But for someone to say I must not be real Wings fan because I don't like a particular player that has played for them is both stupid and asinine! How many folks on the board can't stand Bertuzzi? But I can guarantee they will be cheering when the Wings hoist the 2010 Cup won't they?

Yeah, he was better than Luc Robitaille, Doug Brown, Dino Ciccarelli, Slava Kozlov or Holmstrom to name a few... Man there is WAAAY too much McCarty man love on here! If we are going with recent players, lets say 1990 and higher the best line combo would be: Fedorov - Yzerman - Shanahan Konstantinov - Lidstrom Hasek But, hands down, the best REAL line combo has got to be the Russian 5. Period.

you see how well that worked.... Abby is already getting kicked out of bars and drunking it up! Thanks for all the positive influence Mac!

OMG, you cannot be serious? Dude, sure he had a few timely goals, but he was just another cog in the machine, he was a very replaceable cog at that. Lapointe and Kocur (both of whom were origianl grindline memebers before McCarty (and were better)) would've done the same thing March 26th, 1997 if they were on the ice (they also wouldn't have gotten thier assed kick the following year when Lemieux went toe to toe with McCarty as he did.) I have never discounted his goals and sticking up for his teammates, but for you to say the Wings wouldn't have won ANY of their Cups without McCarty? (not mentioning that they won 2008 without him.) Dude, you need to come off the McCarty bus, because you fell and bumped your head or something. Acerage player, average fighter, lucky to play where he did. Oh and if he was SOOOOO valuable to this teams success, he would've never got bought out in 2005, doesn't matter what his salary was, they would've bought out someone else, but McCarty was "EXPENDABLE." Good Luck McCarty, I certainly hope you DO NOT replace Mickey Redmond.

I am pretty sure that for us local viewers, whatever Wings games that are on Vs. will probably be picked up by FSD, or mayb even a local "AIR" network, sorta like Channel 50 again. Maybe this also means we will have Ken and Mickey through three rounds of playoffs, instead of just two. Whatever the case,I am sure MR. Ilitch will not stand for his local viewers not being able to watch all the games and the playoffs... BTW, f*** Bettman and his nephew Cindy Lee Crosby

so I am not a fan because I don't like McCarty? Hmmmmm, didn't realize that just because someone put on the Wings sweater that I automtically have to like them or else I am not a fan of the entire team and a disgrace. So Claude Lemeuix becomes a Red Wing, I have to like him or I am not a fan? Chis PRonger? Cindy Lee Crosby? Another thing, if you remove McCarty from this team for his entire career, the Wings still win 4 Cups, so I don't know what your dillusions are about what he did for this team and city, what next, #25 to the rafters? McCarty in the Hall of Fame?

Never! Enjoy! Cheers! To all others, no I cannot be reasoned with, I respect everone who loves McCarty, but I have never liked him. Do I repsect some of his "big" goals and "big" fights? Sure, still doesn't mean I have to like him... Goodbye Darren, you'll always have Grinder to fall back on....oh wait, you suck at that too.... Goodbye! Good Luck! Remember, you cannot file bankruptcy again for 8 years!

...about 10 years too late. Goob Bye McWaste of Roster Space!

Ya, much like after Yzerman retired and Shanahan left. Oh God! How the Mighty WIngs have fallen! Lets See: Lost Hudler, Sammy, Hossa & Kopecky replaced them with Leino, Helm, Eaves, Williams and Bertuzzi. Lidstrom healthy, Holmstrom healthy, Datsyuk healthy. Ericsson Full Time. Franzen, Zetterberg signed, fat and happy. Oh, Rafalski healthy. Let them predict what they want. I wouldn't mind seeing a 3rd or 4th seeded Red Wings go into the playoffs on a role instead of a coast...

Two more words.... SALARY CAP

Add to this fact that Helm is going to be here ALL year and there is NO WAY Osgood has as bad of year (GAA-wise) as he did last year (could he?) So you can shave off atleast 20 goals from our Goals Against this year as well. I am excited to see how having three people that can screen the net also adds to our goals for. With Holmstrom, Franzen and now Bertuzzi who can all reek havoc to opposing goaltender, we should outdo the 88 goals lost and then some...

With the way Draper was used in the playoffs, I can see him and Maltby being the swap outs at 13th forward. Regardless of line combos, for those of you who wanted a completely different make-up on our roster got thier wish: 2008: Holmstrom Zetterberg CLeary Hossa Datsyuk Franzen Sammy Filppula Hudler Maltby Draper Kopecky 2009: Holmstrom Zetterberg Datsyuk Cleary Filppula Franzen Bertuzzi Helm Leino Eaves Draper Williams (Maltby) Now, I know those wont be the line combos more than likely, but the makeup has definately switched to a more North American team, whether or not that will pay dividends remains to be seen, but you cannot say Holland didn't change the makeup of his team....

I don't know which spreadsheet you are using, but capgeek.com shows the Wings UNDER the cap by $279,000 with Lilj on LTIR and giving Bertuzzi $1.5M. Now if Lilja is slated to be back, then we have a problem. Even after trading Lebda, we are still $320,000 over the cap, trade off Meech and we'd be fine, but then we'd only have 6 defensmen and no room to bring up Kindl (or anyone for that matter) to cover injuries. I do agree, I hope the siging is more like $1M which'll of course, leave us more cash for injuries. If Bert is signed that'll give us the 13 forwards (along with Meech's ability to play up, 14.) I am only saddened by the fact that Oulahen and MCGrath are odd men out and unless they clear waivers, won't be in our organization anymore. I was looking forward to seeing one of them up here at least... another thing to those of you making line combos with Holmstrom on the 4th line, give us a break. Homer will not be on the 4th line...

Well, I would welcome him back. Lets put the Steve Moore incident in a little more LOCAL perspective. Like the user said, was it planned to attack him, yes, did he plan to end his career no, but most people call him a thug and he doesn't deserve to be here. Lets look at Joey Kocur, a hero to a lot of us, a Bruise Brother and one the the toughest guys to ever play the game. Two words for you, Brad Delgarno. When Kocur fought Delgarno a long time ago, did he mean to bust his orbital bone and end Brad's career? No. Is Joe Kocur a thug that didn't belong in the NHL or was he your hero? Accidents happen in this violent sport. Maybe Moore should've of maned up and stood toe to toe with instead of skating away. Did Tie Domi skate away from Probert in their classic remath? Did Troy Crowder? Bertuzzi did his time, he paid his price that the NHL brought down on him. He deserves the right to earn a living... Welcome back to Hockeytown Todd (if it is true) Bertuzzi! Help bring us back the Cup! Lose Hossa, Sammy, Kopecky & Hudler for Helm, Leino, Williams, Eaves & Bertuzzi. I'd say we got a little grittier...

regarding Hudlers comments: In other words he feels he is better than what he actually is.... Ya, Babs learned his lesson alright! FYI: Babs is still with the team while Hudler is where he belongs, OFF THE TEAM...

There is also a possiblilty he didn't want to come here because Mike Babcock was his coach once already and he didn't last too long in Anaheim, so he also knows what is to be expected....

Ya, I wasn't sure if that was it, its hard to determine which is which, you put in a different translator and something different coms up! Oh well! I did find this Fedorov Sweater for sale on eBay though! (you're almost right (lol! closer that mine was!))

I think it is absolutely ridiculous that Pitts is #1. No this has nothing to do with them beating us or my hatrd for Kathy Lee Crysby, but c'mon! He goes on to talk about OUR departures yet keeps Pitts at #1 power team even after they lost Scuderi & Gill, two of the biggest reason (other than Bettman) that they won. I think they aren't going to be as good this year because of that. I also find it funny that the reason he gives for them being one: Ok, so they are number 1 because they have sold tickets? Stupid...

Absolutely NO to Legace (sorry Chris) but he is the worst option out there!

How about...So was I! McCarty had two goasl that meant anything and one meaningful fight that sparked "The Brawl." As a matter of fact Larionov was already pounding on Forsberg before McUsless jumped Lemeiux, so really Larionov sparked it. I hate McCarty more than Hudler, so don't even get me started on McWaste of space... 25 - "HAS ALWAYS SUCKED" There's a winning sweater right there!

EXACTLY! Bump all those "Social Networking" sites! Hey listen, there is a reason why my phone number is unlisted and a reason I don't go to High School reunions, I didn't like those people then, what makes you think I will like them now.... and NO I don't want to tell you 1000 interesting things about myself, let alone whether I prefer summer or fall or what three words I would say if we woke up naked together!

Bingo! With all the users on here calling Hudler greedy, so to quote Gordan Gecko, 'Greed ladies and gentleman, for lack of a better word, is good..." Nice Job!

13 - "Ãà øà " before you ask, that is Pasha in Russian (according to a translator I found...) 91 - "Чекман" That is the best I could find for Fedorov in Russian (it may only be part of the name though.) on a side note, did you know that Pavel is the Russian name for English Paul? Sergei is the Russian for English Cyril or Charles, Vladimir is Walter.... Interesting....

yet another thread that brings back useless users to this board. Enough with the posting of topics that drum up Pitts fans. Sheesh! When you get it next year? Wait, what about thenext 100 after that? Because we all know that Crosby is a God and he is better than all 29 other teams players combined and he is so nice h even cleans the Cup for Uncle Gary! I Dicksby, you missed a spot, oh wait that is on your nose, whats that hanging from you chin, is that hair gel? Hey Bylsma, need we remind you that instigating a fight in the last 2:00 minutes of a game is an AUTOMATIC suspension. Oh and swinging your stick at someones head is a gross misconduct penalty as well. Your Cup is tainted, it was givin to you, you earned nothing. Suspend the Jonas Brother for game 3 and Wings win in 5. Sorry guys, now we are gonna see a response saying how bitter and jealous I am because of how much I actually want Kathy Lee to be on the Wings....

How about 25 - "Useless" or "Horrible" or "Waste" maybe go with; 8 - "Gator" or 26 - "Pay Me" or "Sucks" or "Gecko" (obscure movie reference, 10 bonus points for whoever undestands it.)