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Well, I want someone who is gonna shore up our penalty kill and win a few more battles along the boards and in front of the net. Anyhow: 2009 stats: Grier - 10 13 23 points Sykora - 25 21 46 points Peca - 4 18 22 points Malhotra - 11 24 35 points Considering the amount of salary it would take to get Sykora and Grier compared to Peca and Malhotra, I am not too worried about the combined 12 more points the former scored compared to the latter. Peca & Malhotra = BETTER defensively than Sykora/Grier... not that I am totally against Grier, but I would definately rather have Peca/Grier or Peca/Malhotra or Grier/Malhotra than Sykora AT ALL...

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NO NO NO Mike Peca and Manny Malhortra. Of what is left, they'll do the best for us...

I would take Peca & Malhortra in place of Williams and Grier.... Holmstrom - Zetterberg - Datsyuk Cleary - Filppula - Frazen Leino - Helm - Malhortra Oulahen - Draper - Peca Maltby (McGrath) Now, if Lilja gets put on LTIR and they have some more money to spend, sure I'd take all THREE Malhortra, Peca & Grier. But I a not so sure about lsong out on McGrath or Oulahen as they would have to lear waivers to be sent back to GRR. So I am going with my lineup... I guess if Ouhlahn and/or McGrath would clear waivers you could give Williams about $700,000. But no more and thats it. Of course you are not going to know that until after camp, so signing Williams would have to come then...

Williams for $2.5? What did Moen sign for again?

interesting about that "CUT" list.... I can think of about half the member on here who were hoping the Wing wouldsign LaRose this off season.... Strange eh?

Wow, with Vicky Sunohara playing, Team Canada will have TWO women on their team! Right Wendy?

OH NO! According to some folks on here, signing Mike Grier wouldbe a great story in the city and generate newer and blacker fans! This thread is EPIC FAIL

that's good!

For a Cool Million sign him up! Still leaves room to maybe get another UFA for around $1M... He'd have to wear #31. Grinding forward can be in the form of Peca, Grier or Malhorta. They may settle on McGRath or Oulahen for that too... Look at it this way, if Sundin DID sign for $1M you'd be trading Sammy to Vancouver for Sundin & $250,000.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/alltime/leaders?cat=goaliewins Ozzie has 2 more years on his contract, with the VERY inexperienced Howard coming up, it is not out of the question that Osgood may get 30-40 wins this year, considering that the Wings barely lose 25 games a year, someone has got to win them, I will give Howard 15, that gives Ozzie 42 wins this season. If he can get that, plaus have another solid 25-30 win season in 2010-2011, he will finish in 4th place (if CuJo doesn't get anymore wins.) Right now, that list is ALL solid HOF's, Osgood included. I know, oh great, another Osgood debate! But, heck, what else is there to talk about? Not much happening until after the 30th anyhow! Osgood's number WILL be retired and he WILL be in the Hall of Fame! You cannot deny the numbers! I don't want to hear that "he played for the Wings" either! Can you name me the sucky teams Roy or Brodeur or Belfour played for? They ALL played behind GREAT defensive teams, everyone of them had help getting to where they are!

Only to be the strongest in the playoffs, isn't that crazy?

Yes, I did see that, and yes I commented on it, GM's aren't theonly ones who vote players in to the Hall, WRITERS do, and the majority of the writers around the league all think he will one day be in. Also, the reason Osgood never won Vezina or Hart is the same reason Yzerman never won a Hart. He had the unfortunate luck to play in the same era as ROy, Hasek & Brodeur. (Yzerman with Gretzky, Lemieux.) Same goes for Osgood not represesenting Canada, he played with those guys and there are only 2 spots to fill on a team, not 21. SO if you are the 5th best goalie in the league, odds are you are not going to get to fill those two slots unless 3 folks are injured. Yzerman never won a Hart, Richard, Calder, Byng, etc... He won Selke and Pearson and 1 Conn Smyth. He is getting into the Hall because he leads nearly all statistcal positions for the Wings, he was a tremendous leader and a constiment winner. Oh, wait, am I still talking about Yzerman because that ounds a lot like Osgood's career, and he will lead the Wings in nearly EVERY goaltending catagory PLUS finish 5th ALL TIME in wins.

re-sign Oulahen & McGrath. Oops! Sign Malhortra and or Peca (if you could get them both for around $2M, in which you cannot, so one or the other.) Let the "KIDS" play with Draper and put the UFa on the third line. We're set. Leino - Helm - Malhortra (Peca) McGrath - Draper - Oulahen (Maltby rotating with the kids.)

and with that, nohing else can be said. Osgood in the rafters and Hall.... period...

Except for the fact that Hawerchuk actually touched the puck at center ice. It was a perect timed hit by the best defender in the NHL that year! Yet another royal screw job by te NHL not voting Vladdy the Norris that year! Not Hardly...

edit: Steve Yzerman jersey in rafters for 4 years before he was elected, so no, not first...

The Wings just traded for basically the best goalie in the WORLD and din't feel like haveing a back-up making $3M per season to ride the bench. at the time of Osgood's departure from the Wings, he was making great money for a Goaltender. PLUS he's always taken less to play here in Detroit. Osgood had the misfortune of playing in the same era as a couple of other Canadian goalies named Roy and Brodeur. Osgood has had comparable numbers to both, much like Yzerman with Gretzky & Lemieux, yet he IS going to the Hall. If Roy or Brodeur were a different generation, we wouldn't be having this debate... See last above See two answers back...

...and had Malkin been suspended for game 3, the Wings would have won back to back Cups. If I hadn't hit snooze 3 times this moring, I wouldn't have been late for work! If I had pulled out on time, I wouldn't........ well, maybe I would have, but if I would've looked left instead of right I would have never met my wife and if I would've chosen Ham instead of Trukey, I might weigh a little more...

Exactly! Yet Kronwall is good enough to package and get someone like Kessel. Hell, throw Meech in too! Kronwall, Meech, rights to Hudler. Then give Kessel the $4M, give the 4th line to McGrath/Draper/Oulahen and rotate the two rookies with Maltby for the 13th and we'd still have over $1M to bring up a defensman to cover injuries. Cleary - Zetterberg - Datsyuk Kessel - Filppula - Franzen Holmstrom - Helm - Leino McGrath - Draper - Oulahen (Maltby) Lids - Rafi Stu- Ericsson Lilja - Ledba (call up)

Nice! Kessel = no, too expensive. Eaves, or Pyatt? I guess for a discount sure. Eaves wouldn't cost so much considering he's getting nearly $1M from the Bruins for the next 4 years from the buyout, you may be able to offer him another $1M contract and total nearly $2M a year. I totally forgot Brent Sopel was in camp last year and turned down the Wings offer, looks like he'll probaly have to be dealt next year to relieve some cap space. Best case scenario, Trade Meech or Lebda, sign a UFA for $1M or less, let McGrath and Oulahen try to get the fourth line spots. Edit: On the other Hand, a 21 year old who can score 40 goals, trade Kronwall & the rights to Hudler, that should get him here PLUS open up enough cap...

Ya, it's because he is almost 40 that Lidstrom hit a couple of posts. It is because Lidstrom is almost 40 that his nads were speard out by a stick and he played hurt the rest of the playoffs. It's becuase Lidstrom is almost 40 that Rob Scuderi made the save of the series. Ya, it's the age of our team is why we lost, not injuries or bad bounces or a suspension that should have happened and never did, ya that is why we lost. I would love to see what the Pitts fnas would be saying if Zetterberg INSTIGATED a fight and didn't get suspended for it and WE ended up winning game 3. Holy Hell! As a matter of FACT, if Malkin had to serve his suspension, we WOULD HAVE won game 3. Bottom line, Buttman helped you win the Cup by NOT upholding the instigator penalty. If Malin had been suspended and we still lost the Cup, then it wouldn't be an issue, but Buttan wanted to give The Pitts their best chance to win and that is what happened. Stating the facts and crying are two different things... Now, go back to your room and continue worshiping the nude statue of Cindyrella you have sculpted out of soap. Enjoy the Cup that was handed to you, you will not be back for a long time!

Ya, and if an Orange were purple would it still be caleld na Orange? Dude, put Brodeur or Roy or Belfour on St. Louis their entire careers, are they were they are now? OF course you are going to say yes, but the answer i WHO ******* KNOWS!?!? All you Manny Legace lovers need to open your eyes. Osgood has the numbers, he has the stats, he has everything he needs. I cannot believe you guys actually think that finishing 5th all time in wins and wherever he may end up GAA, SO & SAV. Right now those numbers are great too! Individual awards don't put you into the Hall, its is what you meant to the success of the sport, and if Osgood retires leading in almost EVERY stat for the Red Wings, then he is in. All those awards that the GMs vote for, I am sure glad the writers vote for the Hall of Fame...

Those are great! Hell, on the Zetterberg goal, the only non Red Wing out there was Backman! Nice! (well prior to Sammy leaving too!) edit: also, who else is in favor of putting the dots over the players "O" on the NHL jersey as well? Even spell the names like they are supposed to be spelled (the Russians for example) and even the other nationalities, the accent, hyphens or whatever elese they are called! How do I get my keyboard to type those letters?

From the title of this thread, I thought it had something to do with Vladimir Konstantinov... You've just now started leaving your house? Since June 13th? Considering the Wings lost on June 12th I would think that would be a worse day, hence the reason I thought this thread was referencing the Limo Accident... edit: BTW thanks for dragging out all the Cindyrella worshipers again!