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watching these, it just proves that no matter how much Buttman and the NHL try, the ONLY things that Cindyrella has in common with Yzerman is a Cup and a C... on a side note this goes to show you that you cannot have a top 10 goals by Steve Yzerman. Of his nearly 700 goals, a good half of them would be HIGHLIGHT real. Anyhow, how can there be two top 10 goals list without this one?

first of all, I didn't know he was a FA. Second of all, $1.4M? That is a nice cap hit for him, I wish there was a way we could aquire this guy. I think he would score a few more points than 11 in Detroit... IF Johnson were on the block, who would you offer to LA for him? maybe if Hudler-gate wasn't going on, we could have tendered him a little bit of a larger contract to come here. After all, we will need someone to replace Lidstrom eventually. SInce we couldn't somehow get a hold of Hedman, maybe Johnson could've been that guy. edit-Sorry if this was already covered, went back 5 pages and didn't see it...

Except Draper is signed until 2011...

of course none of this has anything to do with playing in the cesspool called LA Kings. Put Lilja on LA and Johnson on Detroit the past two seasons, who outscores who?

Ahhhhh, wish in one hand and sh*t in the other... oh well. I am sure Holland knew Johnson was available, but I am also sure he knows better than we do if he'd fit in Detroit. Holland must be very confident with his current defense and the likes of Kindl, Kolosov, Smith and company as sucessor's to Lidstrom/Rafalski. Of course witnessing the emergance of Kronwall and Ericsson, can you question him? I am willing to bet Piche rises into the top 5 in prospects this season in GRR and becomes one of the next Wings within 2 or 3 years.

How about we just stop talking about him all together? I can see it now come opening season, ONE game day tread and 15 Hossa threads! Dudes, as much as we enjoyed having him, he isn't a "Wing for Life" anymore, There are certain players that qualify for that, only one has started and ended as a Wing For Life and that is Yzerman. Lidstrom is going to be the next and then that is it. It remains to be seen if Zetterberg or Franzen will be here until they retire (with their contract signings it seems so) but until the day comes that they DO retire as a Wing, there will only be Yzerman and Lidstrom... BTW, Mr. Hossa, I have met Steve Yzerman & Nick Lidstrom (plenty of times) I consider myself someone they would say hi to if they seen me, I watched them their ENTIRE careers in the NHL, you Mr. Hossa, are no Yzerman & Lidstrom! Anyway, Hossa scored 40 goals for us, that is it. That is all his history will leave us. Luc Robitaille and Brett Hull were "Better" Red Wings than Hossa. Larry Murphy is a "Better" Red Wing than Hossa. Steve Duschene was more important to this team. For Gods sake, Keith Primeau meant more to this team!

anyway, the log jam at Defense would have been cleared if we somehow could get ahold of Johnson. I'd get rid of Lilja, Lebda & Meech to accomodate Johnson, then bring up Kindl or even recently signed veteren Janik up to be the 7th defensman.

Amen! G.D.! I wish the mayor and city council would get their heads out of their assess! How long until Detroit is a desireable city again? How long until it just dissappears? The bad thing is, the citizens of Detroit don't even care about their city, for the most part. They all want what "they got coming" to them but don't want to do anything for themselves! "Where's mine?" Wy don't you get a f'ing job! McDonalds is hiring, thats better than ZERO! You almost wish you could go through with sweeper and just get rid of the scum! G.D. this city could be so great! Can we have the US Government take over the city?

Sorry, but everything that Holland CANNOT do is because of him... So whatever. And each day this goes on, he is worth less and less in my book, so for this forums sake, hudler best leave or he will be in every single post this season because of his greedy, me first attitude. He WILL be the whipping boy...

the longer Hudler-Gate goes on, it looks more and more like we'll have 4 or 5 Griffins up this year permanently -OR- wind up with someone like Peca...

Does it really matter? What matters is, when Fedorov was focused and on his game and not being lazy, he was easily the best player in the NHL (Yzerman, Gretz & Mario included.) Of course I am a little bias towards him, but nobody can argue it. Although Fedorov was 90's, while Gretz/Yzerman/Mario were basically 80's, you still cannot argue his accomplishments in the NHL. I am truely sad to see him return to Russia and possibly never grace us again. (well, unitl he is inducted into the Hall AND gets #91 in the rafters!) Funny, even though we are the same age, I still picture him as a kid in the NHL, no matter how old he gets. I surely hoped he had come back to Detroit one day, but it really doesn't look like it's gonna happen. Its too bad too...

It's not like he said, "It's nice to FINALLY be in a REAL hockeytown." or something!?!? Geez! Who is Hossa? He came here to try for a Cup, he left, whoop-de-doo! I think I felt worse when Brett Hull left! I think I miss Jiri (not so fast) SLEGR more! (you guys thought I was getting soft on Huds didn't you!?! ) Bottom line, Hossa came in like a tornado, left like a sprinkle. He may help Chicago, or maybe he'll come up one game short again! Either way, Hossa is gone. He made a helluva a lot of money for what little he did here (not bitter.) I think we all felt a million times worse when Fedorov left, he was, at least, one of our own, we drafted him, he defected from the Red Army for us, he grew up here, he went from Calder runner-up to 2 time Selke, Hart Trophy, Pearson Award & 3 Time Stanley Cup Champion in front of our eyes! Hossa only scored 40 goals... My question is, as good as Zetterbeg and Datsyuk are, how are we gonna replace Fedorov? Truthfully, we have never really made up for his loss... Anyhow, Go Wings! Forget about #81, he was only a rental...

He is also still listed as a RFA on capgeek, so I don't think he has been re-inked yet...

Ya, as I referenced above, they were called "Cooperalls" but I guess for some people who don't know what they were called, I guess I should've just said pants too, maybe there are far too many youngins on this forum! (or maybe I am just too old!)

Right, Maltby WILL retire after 2010, so make him your 13th forward now and let him see spot duty ths season (kinda like Chelios.) Then you have Meech and or Lebda as your 7th defensman... ...what sucks is, Holland isn't gonna do anything until Hudler-gate is taken care of so we aren't going to have ANY news until after that hearing. No signings, no UFA action, no nothing! Hey Jiri, why don't you make like a tree and get out of here!

Kinda like the Wings?

Not that they are not, but ya, it is nice, I was holding my breath and hovering my mouse over the red X if I seen a Pitts jersey come up on number 1. Very nice to see... ...if Pitts fans needed anymore proof that Buttman is gonna give the Cup to the next "Bettman Team" then this is more. Cindy not in the top 10 highlight goals? Thats is, he's done! By By Cindoleeza Rice!

CANNOT TRADE HIM FOR 1 YEAR AFTER HE IS AWARDED A CONTRACT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ya, sign him for $4.5M and trade Fippula AND Kronwall just to fit him in! Talk about having team GRR up here!

Fedorov didn't leave for MORE money... Hudler deserves more money and he doesn't want to be on the 3rd line. But he doesn't want to play for any other NHL team than Detroit. BTW, he voted for the war and then changed his mind later and voted against it! This guy just wants his payday. He is a me first player, not a team player. But I do not blame him for wanting a pay day. If someone offered me a 30% (or more) pay raise, I'd leave my current job too!!! (on the contrary, my job STOLE 20% from me!!! (then gave themselves bonuses!))

Sign him to whatever he is offered? We only have $1.8M left, $3.0M if Lilja is LTIR'd! BTW, Arbitration rules say you cannot trade an awarded player for at least a year after his contract is signed. So, NO, this is not a good idea. If he is awarded anyting NEAR $3.0M or more (which he is worth on the market) then let him go to the KHL, he could still be Wings property in two years... Hudler (Svboda) handcuffed Holland by doing this, he should have just accepted the 5 year 15M contract. (which was still too much for our cap space situation, but at least Holland tried.) Best choice now is to let Hudler get his award, let him go to the KHL and "Get Better." Don't know how much better he will get over there, but maybe he will like it too much and stay aw well! He has said the only NHL team he wants to play for is Detroit, so maybe when he is done getting rich, he'll come back here and be a team player again... (I hope not)

I don't care why, I am just glad he is! (and so is Babcock it seems!)

... and Lindros has camel toe! I always knew he was a p____! edit: Philly should wear the Cooperalls! another quick edit, next year the classic should be Colorado vs. Carolina and they should wear the Nordiques and Whalers uni's! (or take your pick) -Calgary (Atlanta) vs. New Jersey (Colorado) -Phoenix (Winnipeg) vs. Dallas (Minnesota)

Is this guy any good or worth a $600,000 contract? I see he is huge at 6'3" 226lbs. He had 8 points in 27 games for Dallas, he missed a good chucnk with a rib injury... He was a +5 with 21 PIM's and 47 hits in those 27 games as well... This may be the type of player we'll have letf to choose from after the Hudler screw job plays itself out! edit: So I don'y start a new thread what about Joakim LiNdstrom? He's 6'0" 187lbs. Registered 20 point n 44 games for Phoenix last year, he is 25 and a UFA. I would have to imagine he'd love to play in Detroit with the horde of Swedes on this team.... Sorry, I am bored and just trying to find a player that may change the team look a little...

$2.0M or less...... or No...

Not....Enough...Cap...Space...