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Who did I list that is considered depth? Hudler? you get a 1st and a 3rd round pick in exchange for him. The rest are VERY much replaceable. Are you referring to when the likes of Helm and Abdelkader and Ericsson are up for contract? Well, if they want to stay, they too will sign deals that have a smaller impact on the cap, just like Z and Dats and Franzen. By time Helm and Abdelkader are up, Holmstrom, Draper and Maltby will be gone FOR SURE. Stuart and Refalski will be near gone. The next contracts those three sign will not be the size of Any of our top players. Ericsson will probably sign on lke Stuart or Kronwall. Adbelkder and Helm will get about Hudler cash right now. Leino will probably get $1,000,000 next season. There is (with the three kids AND Howard) still $9.4 million available next year for Cap. If Hossa (as rumored) takes Franzen type cap hit, that still leaves roughly $4 million in space. Even if the Cap doesn't reflect the 4 Griffins, that still leaves $2 million for Leino and Kopecky or Sammy. Not even considering if Lija has to retire, if Ledba gets traded, if Draper and Maltby retire. The future is STILL bright even when Hossa signs... (you got to remember too, Lids HUGE contract comes off the books after next year, he'll either retire or sign for less...)

what makes everyone think we are losing Ozzie? Even after his contract, if he is healthy and motivated, why wouldn't he resign as the backup to (insert goalie here)? If he still has anything left in two years (which he probably will) who better to be a back-up than a 4 time (at least) Stanley Cup winner? I am willing to concede that he wo't resign to be the starter here, but why does he have to retire because we have a different #1? Ozzie WILL get Conn Smythe, he WILL get #30 retired and he WILL get in the Hall. It is done...

It's not. Seven year contract already agreed upon.... Last time we'll see Hudler, Sammy, Chelios, Conklin, Lebda, possibly Draper and Maltby, yes. That is the hard part. (except the Hudler part)

are you crazy? Automatic sick day! IF there is a game 7, then so is Friday!

Funny, we haven't heard how Detroit can only win with the bounces off the boards recently...

Pensfans, you just have to realize that "HE" (so I don't make fun of your captain) is NOT a leader. Leadesr DO NOT act like that. Lidstrom doesn't act like that. Joe Sakic doesn't act like that. Steve Yzerman didn't act like that. Mark Messier didn't act like that. Wayne Gretzky...oh, well he did, but you get what I am saying... Point is, I can not and will not respect him as long as he acts like he does. With that being said, the whole point of the post was, the Pens will not win with that kind of leadership. Once the rid themselves of that leadership (demote him) the better off they will be. Byslma just wishes he could do that now. Dan Byslma didn'tplay that way and he shouldn't have to stand watch his team being lead that way.. If you want to know my opinion on how the Pens may be able to win tonight, thay have to hope they get a quick start, get the Wings off their game (like game 4) and STAY OUT OF THE BOX. Detroit's power play is back. Thier confidence is back. Hossa is getting chances, only a matter of time and he'll score (hopefully 2 tonight, including the game winner.) Put hm on the powerplay and he'll get his chances and you pens know, he can score. Pens just need to lead with their hearts and not follow "HIM." "HE" will lead you nowhere. Unfortunately, the series turned with the dive, and there is no saving you, even if you manage to win tonight. I used to respect Malkin until he fell into "HIS" trap this series. When these players learn to lead, then they will have success, until then, lose. Once again, the likes of Orpik or Scuderi should be the Pens captain, too bad they are going to lose Scuderi to UFA this summer... The Pens having only score what, 4 even strength goals? Not going to cut it against the Wings who ar the deadliest team even strength, and now that their PP is clicking, you better how the whistles are in the home teams favor tonight.

They just realize that they aren't going to win with Dive boy, cheapshot, crybaby as their leader. And that is no disrespect to the Penguins (honestly.) Crysby is not a leader, not with the way he handles himself. He is the exact opposite of leader. What would've happened if Steve Yzerman would've lead by that example in 1997 after Colorado pasted us 6-0 in game 5 that year in the WCF's? We may never know, but I doubt it would've been as good as just taking your lumps and coming back in game 6 and wrapping up the series like they did. Instead Crysby decides he's gonna cry and whine and slash and dive.... ...talk about turning points in the series? Pens up 4-2 with 10 minutes to go game four. Maltby taps Cindy on the ankle (no harder than Cindy tapped Maltby after game one) and Cindy Louganis acts like he was shot in the head, leaps to the ice writhing in pain (never once reaching for his "hurt" ankle) and lies there for 20 or so seconds while Detroit takes free shots at Fluery. So HUGE of a crybaby dive fake, that even after Pens gain control of the puck, refs still doesn't blow the whistle to stop the play in order to protect the "hurt" player. Couple that play with his total diaper appearance in game 5, and that spells turning point of the series. IT also spells, Pens losers as long as Cindy is captain. Demote this pretender, that would be my strategy if I were Bylsma, you know he wishes he could. Scuderi or Orpik should be your Captain...

LOL! F**K You Crosby You're an Ass Crack!

keep them together. Flip, Hoss and Mule have great chemistry plus Franzen and Flip can handle Crosby or Malkin. Dats and Zetts can handle either as well. Don't change a thing....

I think that his look says, that deep down inside, he is saying to himself, self "THAT, THAT is my poster child!!?!! This is MY poster Franchise?!!? What can I do to get Mike Ilitch to move his team to New York or Phoenix? Can I get Ken Holland fired somehow and then get him a job in Columbus?"

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/hocke...0,4619978.story Chicago Tribune making fun of the crybaby's!

That just proves the point that the aren't any REAL hockey fans in Southern California. Dude, so lets compare rookie stats: Stamkos - 23 goals 23 assists 46 points on a LOSER team. Getzlaf - 25 goals 33 assists 58 points on a Stanley Cup (hardly) Team in 82 games. Perry - 17 goals 27 asst 44 points 82 games ...and those two were #1 & #2 in scoring on your team (hardly) this season. But I would guess that you wouldn't call either of those two a bust. Since for most clucks fans (hardly) hockey doesn't exist until the playoffs. Just to compare Datsyuk - 11 goals 24 asst 35 points 70 games. Hart, Selke, Byng nominee to name a few...

he's a TRADER too! He TRADED himself to a Winning frachise that will have a ligit chance EVERY year. He will get his Cup this year, but even if he didn't, he'll have more and better chances on Detroit than in the Pitt. If Hossa signs this rumored 7 year deal, guarantee he wins more Cups than crybaby...

Give us a break! Pavel didn't scre yesterday, yet when the Wings hoist the Cup he won't feel any different. Hossa is MUCH more than a scorer, beautiful assist on Fil's goal, one of the BEST back checkers, and he is making things happen by just being a threat! If the Penguins didn't feel like he was a threat, they'd let him go, and then guess what? Hossa needs 6 eyes on him all the time, doesn't matter if he scores, he gets assists in more ways than one, some with hard checks that result in getting no points on the goal, but he created the turnover, outhussled the player. Please, the one who needs to score to feel he was a part of this is Holmstrom, and oh yeah, Hudler :puke:

if the score was tied or we were winning, uh ya, I think so. And if we would've have lost on that insuing 5:00 major for tapping an ass, you better believe the conspiracy hounds would've been out, and rightly so! The ref should've given Luganis a penalty for his mockery of the sport(not that we would've scored on it though.)

and just like an ******* that opinion stinks. Dude, the refs were trying so hard not to laugh they woudn't have been able to blowthe whitle had they wanted to call a penalty! He DOVE ata very crucial time of the game, Detroit had FULL control and actually got a couple of poops at Fleury while Greg Luganis was lying on the ice. Usually when a player is hurt and in pain on the ice, the refs will bow the whistle when his team touches the puck, well, you noticed your guys got the puck and skated out of their zone all while he was still "hurt" on the ice. If the Wings would have scored on that sequence you would have had noone to blame but your golden boy. Wings score, maybe momentum swings (MAYBE.) Either way, he is an idiot, he is much better than that...

no doubt, Holmstrom needs to sit. He has been the worst out there ALL playoff long! Put Franzen on Fil's line with Hossa, stop making Hossa do all the work and when he has noone to pass it to, blame him for it. Cleary Dats Zett Franz Fil Hossa Leino Helm Abby Maltby Draper Meech Lids Raf Stuart Erics Kron Chelios SHAKE IT UP BABS! Do or DIE Saturday!

Yeah, he promised them he'd raise the Cap by about $8 million if they let Cindy win... ...bottm line, we sucked tonight, Pit played good, but it wasn't all their doing, if we had played well, well.... that debate can go on forever.... We sucked, they didn't, we lose. Two out of three, home ice still...

...well I had to stop somewhere. Nobody looked good tonight except Helm. Hossa had some spurts, but NEEDS to SCORE! Oh, Stuart looked good too! SO there ya go, Helm and Stuart are in!

if this same Wings team shows up in game 5, say goodbye to Stanley...

healthy scratches saturday: Hudler, Holmstrom, Leino, Draper, Maltby, Kronwall... Datsyuk, ice your ******* foot up and be a man! Put Abdelkader back in along with Meech up front and Chelios on D. f***, I know we can't sit all those people but s***! they may as well have been sitting!

we can still win. This has been our period ALL playoffs! some stuff to consider, not only is penalty kill killing us, we have no power play anymore. Also, havef you noticed tha Kronwall hasn't 'Kronwalled' anyone since Havlat? Was he givin a warning from the league? IS he afraid to get a penalty? WTF? If this Wings team shows up from now on, they don't deserve to win anything. Remain postive, 20 minutes to go, they scored 3 in 6 minutes and so can we!

the ONLY team I trade Hossa's bargainin rights to for a first rounder is the Islanders. Of course the Wings would pass on Tavares and select Hedman anyhow....

lets just be glad they didn't.

he should have been suspended, black and white, cut and dry. What about when he swung his stick at Zets head? Noone makes mention of that. Lets let Pit do what ever they want and even if they do get a penalt, we'll recind it. Whats next, the NHL recinds an interference call on PIT and takes away a Detroit goal? NHL Gutless..... We cannot supend a star player, no, that wouldn't be right, we have showcase this boy (yes, boy)