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it is the same reason why GM, Chrysler, Northwest,, Delta "HAD" to enter bankruptcy (well GM soon, and Ford will follow.) The same reason why after evertime they agree to a contract with the UAW or IAM, they come back and say well, we were wrong, we need more from you. All while cashing in golden parachutes and guaranteed (much like contracts guarntee things for the LAbor) bonuses. More money for the top 1%, the working man curles up and dies. NHL, just another greedy corporation...

then that means Cindy is still a crybaby. The only difference that is going to be in this Finals for sure, is that Fluery will not trip over his own self running out on the ice. Other than that, it's Hossa time! You think you hate him now...

WHOA WHOA WHOA! We haven't eliminated the Hawk YET!

He is playing very well, keeping us in games in pretty much all of the first periods so far. He is leading the league(goalies left) in GAA, wins (tied with 11) and save percentage. If the Wings wind up repeating, and with no one skater on our club dominating, how much consideration should Osgood get for the Conn Smythe (if any)? and if he does win it, does that finally quiet the skeptics about his number being retired and getting into the Hall?

also if we are being compared to the Islanders passing the torch to the Oilers, then we have a few more Cups to win in a row, like 3 more, then we'll pass the torch to someone!

lets compare: Gretzky - Crosby - Oilers Win Messier - Malkin - Oilers Win Kurri - Staal - Oilers Win Coffey - Gonhar - Oilers Win Anderson - Sykora, Fedotenko & Satan - Oilers Win Fuhr & Moog - Fluery & ???? - Oilers Win Lowe - Orpik - Oilers Win Linesmen, McLeland, Semenko - Cooke, Goddard - Ummm, Oilers Win The pattern being, 1984 Oilers to 2009 Penguins.... No Comparison. I wouldn't even like the 2009 Wings chances against the 1984 Oilers... MAYBE the 2002 Wings, but that is a maybe...

I think even funnier than the spill are the kids who are crouching on the ice lughing their assess off! Like maybe they set up a booby trap to trip him and were devilshing crouching down (hiding) to watch the unsuspecting victim! Then reveling in their success! Classic! Nobody knew that Fluery faling would be the metaphor for Pittsburgh's series last year!

and to finish it off, Stuart re-sends Havlat to the showers in game 4 with huge hit! I suppose that was gutless too, since Havlat was already dazed from Kronwall, nobody should have touched him all game. Man those Wings are gutless!

This Dyanasty actually starte in 1990 since we've haven't missed the playoffs since, have been the ONLY team to win the Pesidents Trophy more than twice, 13 seasons with 100 points or more (currently 9 in a row) even the half season of 1994-95 we had 70 points which would have equalled yet another 100 point season. 4 Stanley Cups, the last team to repeat as Cup Champs, have the record for most wins EVER in a single season. Need I go on? IN contrast you know your teams abysmal record since the 1991 Cup. Epecially missing the playoffs 4 seasons in a row. Your dynasty will end before it starts when the Cap goes down, because you won't be able to afford to pay your players all that money that is already tied up! Careful what you wish for when you say you haven't had the embarrassment of being swept in a SCF. This years SCF hasn't been played yet...

I remember the day he Defected in Seattle during te Goodwill Games! I guess Tikonov didn't think Fedorov any Goodwill after that! Will always be a Wing, will enter the Hall as a Wing, will have his #91 in the rafters (hopefully) Absolutely the best Red Wing ever to play that wasn't named Howe or Yzerman.

Brian Campbell - $7.14 million - 20:18 minutes ice time per game (16 games) 10 points +/- of ZERO John Ericsson - $900,000 - 19:58 minutes average ice time per game (14 games) 5 points +8 Brad Stuart - $3.75 million - 24:49 (15 games) 7 points +8 Kronwall - $3 million - 23:42 (15 games) 7 points +4 Patrick Kane - $3.7 million - 16:27 (15 games) 13 points -10 John Toews - $2.8 million - 16:05 (16 games) 13 points -1 Martin Havlat - $6 million - 15:34 (16 games) 15 points 0 Johan Franzen - $941,667 - 19:43 (15 games) 19 points +10 Daniel Cleary - $2.8 million - 17:00 (15 games) 13 points +15 Val Filppula - $3 million - 16:54 (15 games) 13 points +8 Khabibulin - $6.75 million GAA 2.93 Huet - $5.62 million GAA 4.55 Osgood - $1.4 million GAA 2.14 Conklin - $750,000 Entire Balckhawks team is a combined -16 Entire Wings team is a combined +99 If the he thinks the Wings are "Gutless" then the Hawks are "Clueless" "Actionless" "Depthless" "Offenseless" "Pithless" "Lithless" and "Nonetheless, USELESS." Which actually makes everyting about the Wings "PRICELESS!"

Coffey77, please let me welcome you too! I wor for "THE" airline here in Detroit and have a few folks who were forced out of Pit during our downsizing. One in particular is a huge, huge Pens fan, we love to bicker back and forth about the Wings and Pens, it healthy, its fun. He would be a welcome addition to this forum if he had the time, he commutes back and forth on his off days and has a very very (terminally) sick wife. I pray for him. Anyhow, please just keep it simple, you already have and will find more when we are actually playing each other, more idiots on here. You will laugh at the ones that jump off the bandwagon and back on, you will enjoy yourself. Finals aside, the best way to become a respected memeber of this forum is to stay and contribute even after the pens are eliminated ! All joking aside, we really enjoy intelligent conversation with other fans. It kind of brings a great perspective in here, especially in the off season, like having an inside opinion on whats happening outside of the Red WIngs Nation. Whoever wins the Cup, stick around, you'll quickly find out why we have the number sports forum in the nation. (aside from a select few.) Back to my buddy, in the second round we were talking about the possibilty of a rematch and I told him what was gonna happen if there were one. Game 7, overtime, Hossa wins it! You looked at me in all seriousness and said that he would s*** himself if that happened! Funny! I, for one, believe the Wings can beat anyone in series, but you do have to factor in the lessons learned factor and the experience factor. Cindy, may realize crying to the refs and press doesn't work and maybe he'll plan on showing up for all the game instead of three of them. Of course Malkin hasn't been ruffed up half as much as he was last season, so he should be flying too! It'll be epic, it'll be fun, with Detroit winning back to back titles. Of course I know you believe the same thing, except for that last part! Stay classy, don't feed into out trolls, help us hinder the pens trolls that will show up, and you will enjoy yourself! Go Wings! on thing, at least if there is a rematch, we wont have to put with everyting Crosby, I think the storyline of Hossa (and Conklin) would be a very interesting one for all fans to watch. 2009 SCF Headline: "Did they make the right choice? Or did they make a serious mistake? Only that can be decided right now, on the ice. Bring it or go home!"

You;re only saying this because your team won. If our team would've won the game, you'd be preaching a whole different story! Fact is, Havlat played the puck with his skate, HE TOUCHED THE PUCK! Hit was legal, this took our #3 defensman ot of the game and left us with 5, it was only a matter of time before it effected us! I will leave be reminding you of what EVERY hockey analyst thinks (besides the CHicao media) refs 4 Detroit 3. Oh yeah, I think CBC said it best, Detroit proves they don't need the refs to score goals... Epic, Epic playoff win by the refs, perfect example of diliberately prolonging a series. Thats ok though, thas why it's best of seven, enjoy it until Sunday...

damn I wish I gad he CBC broadcast!!!! BTW, far from over, bot LOL at the Hawks fans that were on here before we tied it! Where'd ya go? oh yeah, if the Hawks score then you'll be back!

They did show up at the drop of the puck, but because of the CBA, the Wings are required to only play 4 guys and a goalie for the first 30 minutes of every game, you didn't read that fine print?

actually they will kill 3! Duck season, Hawk Season and Penguin season! The Wings are in a very FOWL mood this year! Especially with the stupid calls...

Hell, in hindsight, if those types of hits were illegal, Eric Lindros would STILL be winning MVP awards and Rocket Richard Awards!

Yeah, just like the 4:00 double minor on Cleary againt Jonathon GAYwes. I though a 4:00 meant blood was drawn? NHL rules say you have to leave the ice and get the blood stopped before you play, well he was back on the insuing faceoff DIRECTLY following the penalty! NO BLOOD = 2:00!!!! Hava(headache)lat PLAYED thepuck with his skate! NO INTERFERENCE! It's sad when even the VS guys are calling those playes legal! The "HIT" and the "HOLD" Hell they even said Sharp took a whack at Osgood at the end of the period, I guess you cannot protect your goalie no more either...

Havalat looked down and PLAYED the puck withhis skate! He touched the puck, NO INTERFERENCE. With that being said, the refs may have missed that play with the skate. (another example of where replay would work) but I will give them that miss, BUT COME ON! The whistles are tilted in one direction. The Blackcocks cannot score without the man advantage (or interfering with Osgood,) so lets make sure they get plenty of power play minutes. Lebda gets two at the end of period? Sharp gets nothing for slashing at Osgood. I wonder why Mike Ilitch, who is the best owner in the league (and sports) doesn't say something about this crap?!!? All I can say is if this game isn't being called in Blackcocks favor, the penalties BETTER even out or you cannot tell me it isn't fixed....

Whew! So the rumors will stop this July then! I'd trade Hudler for a 1st and 2nd round pick. Who would do that? The team that qualifies him for $3.0 million. Thank you very much, hopefully it's the likes of Phoenix or the Islanders or the Avalanche...

Hmmmmm, I do remember a lot of trade Datsyuk threads, I will have to go back and see some of the stuff I said. I forget who I said trade him for...... Let me take a stroll back an d refresh my memory! edit: Ok, went back and found my Datsyuk "trade" proposal, and I think I got everyone beat: RObert Lang, Pavel Datsyuk to Buffalo for Marty Biron, Chris Drury and a Draft pick.... I also found one where I said trade Hudler for Fedorov..... Hmmmmm..... maybe!

Gimme a Break! You didn't hear the constant barrage of "everyone thinkd Chicago is the faster team, well I think they are wrong!" quotes from Macguire and Milbury and Olczyk? All they did was praise the Wings (along with Chicago.) I think this wsa one of their better broadcasts. The iso-cams were because those two are the young-guns of the NHL, they are the players that are going to carry the NHL into the future and this is their first time in the playoffs. BTW, I think fans tuning in to the "iso-cams" got their moneys worth today, didn't they? Maybe the next NBC game will Iso on Franzen or Osgood. Did you see the skate nearly pull a Jason Vorhees on the Chicago player? (sorry,name escapes me) Sheeeet! That would have been horrendous! I think it cut the mic cord because he was the one mic's up in the first period, and after that we didn't hear a thing!

ABCDEFG... Holmstrom needs to sit, put Leino in he couldn't do any worse. Datsyuk - Zetterberg - Cleary Franzen - Filppula - Hossa Leino - Helm - Hudler Abdelkader - Draper - Samuelsson

IF you remember, Darth was doing a job for the Emporer, he always some good left in him, even when Luke told him that he knew there was good left in him, he said it doesn't matter it is too late for him now.... ...if I had to pick one player to have on the Wings, it would be Getzlaf. He is like pre-assault Todd Bertuzzi, but better and is far more inteligent. I would take Getzlaf over Crysby or Ovech(ump)kin.

Yeah, he did the "tap" actually as soon as he turned around and seen the WIngs in possesion at center ice. He patted Nick before the buzzer. He wishes the Wings had enouh cap room for him!