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here's the difference: We as fans may dismiss the talent on the duckies, but the Wings don't, so no, they will NOT be surprised. The Sharks fans dismissed the talent and the team suffered from the typical 1-8 matchup that we have learned to overcome over the years. They may have dismissed the Duckies talent as well, but you can guarantee, the Detroit Red Wings will NEVER underestimate an opponent. It's tatoo'd into their heads by one Mike Babcock. Besides, any flying elboes or stomping will be called and suspensions brougbht down this time around. Chrissy will not intimidate anyone on this team. He should just go back to wife-beating.

What I find the funniest about Perry and his talking to Datsyuk is he is too stupid to realize that Datsyuk speaks Russian and Samuelsson Swedish. So why would Perry ask Datsyuk to tell Samuelsson he is gonna get it, when, first of all Sammy speaks English, so if you're that much of a bad ass, tell him yourself, or if he think Sammy doesn't speak Englishis he that naive to assume that Datsyuk speaks Swedish or that Sammy is Russian? Perry is a narrowminded fool and will get his this series, especially when Datsyuk knocks him on his ass a few times! I can hear the exchange now: Datsyuk destroys Perry in the corner then says (in his Dracula voice): "Hey Perry, I trust my eyes to Dr. Romani, you should too! IF you had, then you would have seen me coming. By the way, Sammy says you just got knocked the F**K out!"

Dude, YOU were the one complaining about Chrissy being UNFAIRLY suspended. Look at the original post I replied to. I just figured everyone would like to see why he was so UNFAIRLY suspended. I am not complaining, you were. I figured everyone would like to know why you were complaining. And the video showed clearly he did nothing wrong and didn't deserve a suspention. There was clearly no intent to injure. To answer another 'Duck' comment, I don't underestmate anyone, but name me someone on the Ducks not named Getzlaf, Ryan or Perry who can hang with the Wings? Getzlaf/Datsyuk lines cancel each other out. So, who's gonna handle Zetterberg's line? Filppula's line? New tough guys on Anaheim? You could have the toughest guy in the league and he (they) STILL will intimidate the Wings. You can illegally or legally hit this team all you want, there is no backing down and there is NO intimidation. It is you, Hector, who will be surprised when you see what you are up against. If the Duckies come in with your attitude, I cannot see them winning one game. And to comment on Perry mouth getting backed-up. Did he give "IT" to Sammy or Datsyuk that series? I don't think so. The Ducks won because we failed to score on our power play chances. Won't happen this year. And the "IT" that will be given is gonna come from Datsyuk, Kronwall, Stuart & Helm amongnst others. Ducks won't hang this year, sorry.

ok, the Getzlaf line and the Datsyuk line will get thier points and cancel each other out, but who, on the Ducks is gonna stop the Zetterberg and Filppula lines? Last time we faced them, we had Dats and Zetterberg on the same line. We didn't have Rafalski, Stuart a healthy Kronwall OR Marion Hossa and the new and improved Franzen,let alone a more experienced Hudler and Filppula. Getzlaf line will get thier points, but much like the Pittsburgh series, one line isn't gonna beat this Wings. And if it just so happens the Wings DO manage to shut Getzlaf down, bring out the brooms. (although on record I am not calling a sweep.) PLUS, the Wings will not be intimidated what-so-ever. They are proven that the last 5 series. Every team, Nashville, Colorado, Dallas, Pittsburgh& Columbus have ALL tried to come out and intimidate them because they are a smal team. We see how that worked out for all of those teams. PLUS compare Lidstrom - Markov, Quincey - Lebda, Lilja - Chelios to Lidstrom - Rafalski, Stuart - Ericsson, Kronwall - Lebda. Its gonna be a different series and a MUCH different outcome.

yeah, deliberate elbows to the back of the head WHILE facing the boards. You're right, that is unfair, he should have gotten the rest of the series off. Oh, not to mention his flying elbow in the next round either. I am sure that was unfair as well. Dude, we don't need opposing fans like you on here, just leave now before you get emabarassed. If you have something constructive to bring to this forum then bring it, if not, just dissappear (much like your Ducks will this round.)

Well, what is trying to be said, and has been proven in EVERY series the Wings have played last year and the first round this year is you can go ahead and hit, punch, rough and TRY to intimidate the Wings. They aren't intimidated. I cannot wait to see Pavel catch Chrissy and knock him on his wife-beating, cheating ass. Oh BTW, this just out, Chrissy is no longer Bettmans golden boy, that guy plays in Pittsburgh, so don't think Chrissy is going to be able to get away with any of his "Genetics" elbows and hits from behind this time around. No stomping or flying forearms. Chrissy will be called and severley penalized. You guys may as well sit Parros as well, because he will not be able to play is game, unless his game involves a steady flow to the penalty box. Then we'll gladly have you suit him up. I hope you've enjoyed your playoff run, you gonna have a very hard time winning one game, let alone the series. Yes, the Ducks did outplay the Sharks, but that is not going to happen against the Wings, they are gonna have to outplay the Wings the entire series, because they won't be thugged, and that just won't happen. Good luck, you're gonna need it.

First Attempt, sorry for the crudeness...

Draper. He's played over 1000 games for the Wings. Theres no denying his importance to this team both past and present.

I meant of those four, that is the one that means the least. I think the other three benchmarks are more important to deciding to or not to retire a number. Sorry, for the confusion.

http://www.letsgowings.com/forums/index.ph...t&p=1617901 Please read the above and see if you agree. I hope you are right, but I am doubtfull... One of the benchmarks is games played with the organization. That outweighs points and stats. If yo give basically what amounts to an entire career to this organization, they will give you their ultimate thanks and recognition. And that is honoring a player with the utmost honor, hanging his number from the rafters, so not only were you a Red Wing for life, you will be a Red Wing forever, and noone will EVER replace you or wear your number. If you look at the players already there. They aren't necessariy the highest scoring Red Wings (although Howe and Yzerman definately fill that requirment.) They are players who gave thier (hockey) life and sometimes more to this club. If you are going by points alone, or games played alone, then both Lindsey and Abel are below Fedorov in those particular respects. Zetterberg is only 58 points behind Abel and Datsyuk is already ahead of Abel in points. Holmstrom has played in 811 games and is only 39 points behind Abel. Abel only played in 570 games. Would that mean that these current Wings are locks for the rafters too? Honetly, when thier contracts are up I fully believe #13 & #40 have a great shot for being honored that way. Holmstrom has another two years on his contract, wil probably re-sign here for another or two, so when he reaches 1000 games and 500+ points, he will get serious consideration. Especially since he has been a huge part of these Stanley Cup runs. And that, I believe, is the winning combo. Longevity + Dedication + Points (very little importance) + Importance to this teams Championship success. All that added together equals the guys that are up there now and soon: Locks: Lidstrom, Draper, Osgood Probable: Holmstrom, (and after their contracts)Zetterberg, Datsyu. Outside Chance: Fedorov, Maltby (better chance than Feds) And although they were important while they were here, the likes of Shanny, Hasek, Hull, Robitaille, Brown, Kozlov, Larionov & Chelios, will NOT have their numbers retired. Even if Hossa re-signs for 10 years, highly doubtful he'll have his number retired. He may even petition Maltby for #18 after Maltby retires. Another reason Fedorov probably won't is, remember, he actually re-signed somewhere else TWICE. With Anaheim and in 1998 when he held out for most the season and signed a contract with Carolina. So he left twice and even though he was very important to te Cup wins in 1998 and 2002, only because Ilitch didn't felt he had to outdo his arch-rival Karmonos, Fedoov could have been and ex-Wing a LONG time ago and only had 1 Cup win here. That is not very dedicated to this team or city. Ilitch was dedicated to Fedorov, but Fedorov turned his back on him twice. ALthough the Anaheim fiasco had a little more involved, he left for Carolina for the money,

I am one of THE biggest Fedorov fans on earth. Up until last off season, I was a huge proponent of retiring #91. He still ranks up there in career points as a Wing, he did score 400 goals with the Wings, Hart Trophy, Selke Award, 3 Stanley Cups. Even the fact that he left for Anaheim as a UFA, didn't sway me from believing he would have #91 up next to the rest of them. But, and this is a big but, he must have come back to the Wings and finish his career here. I was vry optimistic that we'd pick him up at the 2008 trade deadline, I was angry when we didn't. The Stanley Cup (and asking price) helped that anger to leave. Fast forward to July 1st, Marian Hossa. OMG! Marian Hossa! Even with that, I still held out hope that Sergei would come here for a million or less to finish his career back "HOME." Well, he didn't. HE re-signed with Washington for WAY more than that, and now, with the cap issues and the prospectof siging Hossa for life, it is highly unlikely (considering he will be 40 in December) will re-sign here. Thus, ending any, if not all hope of #91 going up where it belongs. Outside chance, maybe (maybe more if Hossa cannot re-sign) he'll be able to come back for Darren McCarty type money. But I believe that the next numbers to go up in the rafters are as follows: #5 #33 #30 ...then we'll have a long time to see if #13, #40, #93 or #81 (doubt it) goes up. Feds will definately go into the Hall. If he enters as a Wing, he has a shot at #91 going up, but if he ends up winning a Cup in Washington, he just may want to shun the Ilitch's again and enter as a Capitol. I am still hoping, but every year he doesn't come back, makes it less and less likely. Just my two cents...

What else are they gonna say? "He's the slowest, absolute worst player I've ever played with! I don't even know why he is in the NHL! He Sucks!" Next season, it would be awesome to see a grind line of Helm, Abdelkader and Downey! (prolly won't happen, but that would be energy there!)

Well, Jackets fans, the Refs let your man play with two sticks earlier in the series, but 6 guys was just too much to let go. ITs about damn time we get a call in our favor for once that actually helped us in the outcome of the game! Too many times the Red Wings get those ticky tack calls against them at a very crucial part of the game, oh, just 3 or 4 come to time since 2007 when they Datsyuk for a weak hooking call against the Ducks to the latest phantom hook in the last :30 seconds of the last game at the Joe against Chicago. It happens, I am just glad it benefited us for once!

at the very least Lilja will lace them up one more time this season. For the Cup clenching game when he is dressed and out there celebrating with the team! on a side note, I hope Chelios gets a start in the finals so he can have his name on one more Cup! Although the Wings have been pretty good about lobbying the league to add names to the Cup.

The ONLY way he makes the club is if A:) He comes to camp and pulls a Dan Cleary B:)If Justin Abdelkader has minor league eligibility left. C:)He has to clear waivers to be sent down, forcing Holland to keep him or lose him. And D:) The Wings re-sign Hossa, forcing Holland to cuts ties with Hudler, Sammy (possibly Kopecky(but he's cheap)) and trade Filppula. If all four of those happen, then you'll probably see him up here next year. But Helm, Leino & Abdelkader just may have something to say about that next training camp.

I either hope SJ comes back and beats ANaheim so We can play Vancouver next, or I hope they make it to the WCF so we canplay them then! Either way, Vancouver, Luongo, you are in for a rude awakening if you think one round makes you Stanley Cup Champions!

Don't be too upset guys! But its uncanny, maybe they're long lost Fraternal twins!

Yeah, for some reason, the city of Detroit isn't that marketable. Could it be our criminal (ex)mayor? COuld it be our corrupt City Councel? Maybe it's our great public school system. Or maybe it's the people who actually live in the city. The same ones who kill each other in the streets and could give two craps about themselves let alone their neighbors! I know every major city has it's "hood" but that is all Detroit is. A hood. There are SOME nice places, ALOT of good people, but much like the Lions organization, it is a direct reflection of who is in charge. Why car, if your leaders (owners) don't? It is my belief that the State needs to step in and take control of the City and all municipalities. They need to spend money on demolishing every last abandoned and burnt down house/building instead of some of the garbage they are wasting OUR money on! Sorry for the rant... That being said, could you imagine the TV time this team would get if they were in a Bettman city? Everything exactly the same, except where they are based. What if this team were in New York or Los Angeles or Phoenix? First of all we'd be stuck with garbage like the Coyotes or Kings, but the Phonix Red Wings would be plastered all over the NHL Network! -edit: I'll take 4 or 5 more Cups in the next 10-11 years if it means I have to watch the Pens and Ducks and every other team on commercials NOT raising the Cup.

THe thing is, The Wings aren't sending any type of message except, you mess with us and we will fight back. I think if Columbus believes they can intimidate us by physical play after the whistle they just need to go back as early as last (game, really) years playoff run. Nashville, Colorado, Dallas & Pittsburgh were ALL supposed to be grittier and tougher than us, and they ALL tried these antics after the whistle. FYI: IT DOESN'T WORK AGAINST DETROIT!!!! The only problem is someone possibly getting hurt because of it. The refs need to start calling EVERYTHING in front of the net that happens AFTER the whistle. Even if it's us. That is the only way to get this to stop. BEFORE someone gets seriously injured.

I hate to agree with the columnist but Osgood IS our weakest link. That being said, Osgood is playing great, so if he is our weakest link, what does that say about how the rest of the team is playing? On a team where Osgood is your weakest link, I would totally being shatting my pants when I see the rest of the team! That is probably what he meant, On a team of greatness, Osgood is the least great. But still great none-the-less, just not as great as the rest of the team. And that is the hometown spin on that article.

Did you purposely use that line of wording? That is the post of the night!

Before the playoffs J. Willy bought the team robes. After game 2's performance or should say embarrassment (to themselves) the Columbus media are donating these: They'll need this extra help to even squeak out A win, let alone come back to beat the Wings in the series.

That is pretty cool, that maybe better than Maggie! BUTm I don't think I want to wait until 2012 to win it again after 2009! Are you sure yo don't have another younger brother graduated college next year in 2010?

isn't a Blue Jacket in reference to the Civil War? Someone has to make something to do with that! Here's the theme: Detroit Red Wings defeating a union soldier or "Blue Jacket", making up for what the Confederates couldn't do! Thats the winner right there!

Boy all this excitment over this announcement. How come wen I mentioned that trading Filpulla, letting Hudler and Sammy go,along with possibly trading Lebda all for draft picks, you all laughed at me, called me names (ok maybe not that) but pretty much said I was crazy for letting Hudler go, and trading Filppula. Ahem! NOW that is what more than likely is gonna happen and everyone here agrees with it! Hmmmmmmm..... With the way Detroit drafts players, we can EASILY replace Hudler and Filppula in the coming years. Sammy is solid, but VERY replaceable as is Lebda & Chelios. Let me say this again: Trade Filppula for a 2nd and 3rd round pick. Let Hudler test the market, more than likely getting somewhere between 3.5 and 4 million, netting us a 1st, 2nd and 3rd round pick Trade Lebda for a 3rd or 4th round pick. Sammy, Chelios, McCarty (:puke:) all walk, thanks for the memories guys! Conklin either resigns at the same pay and we trade or waive Howard OR Conklin walks and we bring up Howard. So, we lose above players, but GAIN a 1st, TWO 2nds, TWO 3rds (maybe 3) and a 4th round pick to go WITH our own picks. We get Ericsson, Helm, Abdelkader, Howard and Leino. PLUS we get to keep the TWO highest goal scorers on our team in Franzen and Hossa FOREVER! ANd also, not by choice, but if Lilja is done, then his salary will come off and we'll probably see Kindl or someone else up here too.