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None taken, I fully understand the reasons, but it is just frustrating as a fan, especially when you shell out the amount of cash you do to actually go to a game (finally) and you get to watch that. It's the nature of the beast, but it irks me, I know full well what we have done for the past 24 seasons, and the wear and tear is hard, undestood. Maybe lower the ticket prices for the last home games! Yeah right! Just wanted to rant for a minute, not too upset.

no its more like, "Would you just watch the hair! I work for a long time on my hair and you hit it, he hits my hair" - Tony Manero.

Absolute BEST game I have EVER been to! This game was a birthday present from my buddy, I remember after the brawl, we looked at each other and said "I don't even care if they win or lose, this is absolutely the best game we've ever seen!" They were losing at the time of the brawl, of course when they did win! OMG! "Those were the days!"-Archie Bunker. Thanks Dave! Thanks Red Wings!

Career on hold? Man! That must have been some punch to the head! If this doesn't clear up, the Wings just might be re-siging Chelios again in the off season to take the place of his rostor spot. Lids - Rafi Stuart - Kronner Ericsson - Lebda Chelios (Meech) Of course I prefer that Lebda be traded, Chelios let go and give Meech the 6th spot and bring up Kindl with Ericsson!

Hossa with 4 goals,so he can reach 40 and REALLY become a bargain when he re-signs with us!

ok, not bashing Ozzie, BUT I have noticed his problem and it will probably not change for the playoffs. It is still mental. Remember Manny Legace, everytime he gave up a bad goal, he looked up in the air, got down on himself, pretty much psyched himself out of the game. The was the major difference between him and Osgood. The ocassional bad goal didn't rattle Osgood. He'd let in a center ice goal, scoop the puck out take a drink of water and get back in the net with little drama. Look at ALL three goals last night, he looks up, shakes his head, and gets himself thinking too much about the next shot beating him too! He's got Manny disease and there is no cure. He was the ultimate easy going goaltender, nothing got to him. This year, that has changed, everything gets to him, and I hate to say it, but the 10 day sit down did not help, it only hurt him. Now he is thinking what happens if I give up a bad goal? How long untul I give up a bad goal? When will I get yanked? As we've all seen in Manny, it is ir-reversable. Osgood is done, he has lost his coolness and lostr his advantage. Don't know if he'll start the playoffs, but if he doesn't get out of the psychological funk, he won't finish them. C'Mon Ozzie! Snap out of it!

not to play the advocate here, but maybe that was a tongue in cheek statement? Maybe he was saying "yeah sure they are one dimensional, they probably won't make the playoffs because of it!" You know being funny. Then again, maybe not. Osgood is such a bad goalie, he'll never be more than a back-up and never win anything!

I am not bashing Ozzie, they were all bad goals, but how can you compete with a team when thy are allowed to hold, impede and trip you all over the place with no ramifications? Keenan got his word across to the refs and Bettman was listening (especially since it was Detroit he was screwin!) It was blatently obvious that the refs didnt have a whistle when it came to the Wings gettting mauled, PLUS so many quick whistles when their goalie didnt even have the puck! Two goals disallowed because of two quick whistles! Whatever the case, the intent to blow, or lost sight of the puck, there was certainly alot of losing sight of the puck last night and alot of infractions NOT called against Calgary. Even with all the adversity the Wings still made a game of it and that has got to piss Bettman off to no end! I dont get it NHL, why do you hate the team owned by the BEST owner in your league, possibly in all sports? MIke Ilitch has done so much for the NHL, if it weren't for them, the Western Conference would be WHL caliber and they would have lost a lot of teams in the 90's and early 00's!

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All I can say is, I dont think there was EVER and better line EVER assembled EVER in the history of the NHL. A while back we had a debate on which line was better Hank/Pav/Homer/Lids/Rafi or the Russian 5. After watching that, hands down, Russian 5 beats that line or even any combination of a Swedish 5 Babcock could assemble. I miss those days, even Sotty was dumbfounded after Sergei's 5th goal!

this IS the matchup that means the most! A Wings victory over the Devils will finally put to rest our Demons (no pun intended.) All the debat about which team was the Dynasty, which team was better, well they were the team who beat us in 95, so if the Wigs draw them this year and win, the debate will be over! The better team has always and will always reside in Southeast Michigan! Now we just need to prove it!

Hossa AND Franzen will be here! Franzen will take a huge discount to stay and that will allow us to resign Leino as well. You are keeping Hossa & Franzen and trading (for all intents and purposes) Flip, Sammy & Huds for MANY draft picks and Helm, Abdelkder & Leino. Franzen will stay, why give up the chance to open the season on Team Sweden (Wings) IN Sweden? Unless he signed with the Blues he could still open the season in Sweden, but why would he want to NOT be part of the Wings for that? Hossa & Franzen stay, bye bye Hudler & Flip and Sammy! Nothing personal, just business!

we've talked about this before. You are going to get a draft pick or two (or more if we win another Cup) for Filppula. Hopefully Hudler gets a qualifying offer of $2.75M or more (1st and a 3rd compensation, $4M gets a 1st,2nd,3rd) Probably wnt get it, but in a dream he gets $4 to $5M we'll get 2 1st rounders a 2nd and a 3rd. Sammy gets us nothing. That is a lot of draft picks for 2 guys. It is well worth the loss of points to bring up Helm and Abdelkader and Leino. This allows you to have a compertitve team for under the cap for a long time. The players that are drafted with those draft picks wont be NHL ready for a LONG time. That'll give our youngins now a permanent spot on the roster all while making very little. (until they become UFA's) so here's a possible scenario: Hudler (if he gets a $4m to $5M offer) for two 1st rounders, a 2nd and 3rd plus Helm Filpulla for a 2nd and 3rd plus Abdelkader Sammy for Leino Chelios for Ericsson PLUS you get to keep Hossa & Franzen! well worth the loss of Flip and Huds!

his antics have grown old. Ad his display after #50 was disgusting. No, noone will get him. Save that kind of celebration for a goal that actually means something. Hey, maybe show up for the playoffs once in a while? That might help!

I know he won 3, but I said he will go to the Hall winning 2 (possibly 3) WITH the team that he absolutely hated and we hated him. 3 outta 4 Cups on a team that he said he would NEVER play for! And if I had a Dollar for everytime I called him a name, I'd be rich. Thats not bad for someone so hated in this town.

real quick. I now classify Ovechkin as an Ass Hat! After watching that display of antics after his 50th goal,I pretty much threw up in my mouth! What, does he think he is the only player to ever score 50? I could see a celebration if he scored his 94th, but 50, c'mon ass hat, its no wonder none of our team mates celebrated with you! I got a feeling Fedorov was just shaking his head watching that! Hey ass hat, please come down off your high horse, you are a disgrace to the NHL.

it is funny to realize, as much as he was hated here in Detroit, he will have played the most here in Detroit! He will go into the Hall with 2 Cups (possiby 3) while playing where he was so hated! He is right, Hockey is Hockey, but for some reason I cannot see that being said for Claude or Patrick if they had played here in their latter days! Thank you Chelios for 10 great years! We'd like to see you become our defensive Asst. Coach, please do not go back to Chicago!!!!

if Hossa already said he'd sign here for less, then Franzen should follow suit. But I know this is his one chance to make huge money somewhere if not here, but I cannot see Holland giving him $4M. If it came down to him and Hudler siging for the exact amount, and we could only fit one of them, we'd have to go with Franzen. Hudler has fallen off the face of the score sheet, ever since he scored his 20th. This is rough. Dammit! Why did Hossa have to work out so well here!?!?! You cannot let Hossa leave, especially if he already wants to take (a lot) less to stay here, but I'd hate to lose Fanzen, Hudler and possibly Filpulla! Hudler I can live without, but all three would upset the chemistry of this team. Man who is expendable? We know we are losng Chelios, but what happens when you have to bring Ericsson up? He has to be here, has no choice. Who loses out? Lilja? Lebda? When is Helm gonna get his spot here? Maybe we have to get Maltby to retire early? But I doubt it! Is Leino gonna be able to come up next season? Damn! What if Conklin steps in for Osgood and wins us our Cup? What do you do then? He cannot get a raise. whatever! We have to sign Hossa, we have to sign Franzen, Kopecky and Leino. I know we've talked about trading Filpulla, but he has done a lot better and looks good on the second line with Hossa. Damn you Bettman! Damn you to hell!

the biggest change that should be made is #1-8 get in the playoffs, period. None of this reward you with a top 3 seed because youe won your division! There have been plenty of teams that didn't make the playoffs because of this rule even though they had more points than the #3 seed! Change that right now!

Outside of Fedorov, Konstantinov and Kozlov (all of which were drafted from the Red Army team and never were expected to come to the NHL) just hpw many successful Russians have in the 90's? I am not knocking Russians, but you make this statement with the assertion that the Wings had SO many successful Russians in the 90's that its time to go back, because the talent is undiscovered. Pretty much after Communism fell any Russian that wa "Great"either left at that point or was already here by defecting. Sure there are some really talented Russian kids out there, but it says something when the Soviet Leagues are going after NHL players to be superstars in their leagues. Any player that is good enough to make the NHL is already being scouted. In my opinion the Russian talent pool was tapped out a long time ago! But, I am the sure the Wings have scouts all over Europe watching players and there probably isn't any Russian kid that hasn't been seen by Andersson and many other NHL scouts. BTW, its not like the Wings had a ton of Russians to begin with, they've always had more Swedes than Russians in their system and take away Fedorov, Kozlov & Konstantinov and the Swede's have been FAR more successful in Detroit.

I am not a huge Baseball fan, but I am a Tigers fan. To reply to the OP, I am sure there would be an equally funny list or commercial of it's pastimes top player saying something similar about a non-popular sport in Cananda. I can see someone in Europe making fun of American Football that was when it comes to their Futball. Jeter is a Michigan man (Kalamazoo) and plays in a city that is FILLED with hockey fans, so I believe he probably was a hockey fan growing up and wouldn't say anything to piss of some New Yorkers, so CBS is the one to blame, not the player or the Sport. You forget thewy probably paid him a pretty penny just to say that too! Plus he has to promote his own sport as the best! Although we ALL know which one is really the best! lets just leave NASCAR out of this debate!

so some of you think that the OP cannot afford First Class? I know he explained it was a small plane (probably a Compass Airlines Embrair, since Northwest is giving all the former DC9 routes to "Contract" work, but that is another story.) Even so, that is like you are judging him. I happen to fly first class everytime I fly! Also, you don't think it is possible to run into someone like Ken Holland? I remember back in the 90's before EVERYONE had a private jet, most of the NHL flew Northwest in and out of Detroit and I got thousands of opportunities to meet, talk and spend time with plenty of Hockey Players. Had lunch at the Old Terminal at Little Caesars with Jeremy Roenick and Joe Murphey when they both still played with Chicago (yeah awhile ago) but we actually shared a table and talked s*** about each others team! IT was great! Met and talked with Jagr when he was STILL on the Czech jumior team here during the Canada Cup way back then! So it can and probably did happen! The OP probably didn't want to yap his ear off the entire flight! I can remember this one time in the old "F" concourse at Metro, I ran across Wayne Gretzky a night after the Wings toasted the Kings something like 10-1 and all I said to him was "Nice game last night Wayne!" he looked at me a rolled hs eyes like saying "Faaaa Q!" The is part of the reason I have a low opinion of him! Gonna play like sh!t then you need to take the slack! Don't roll your eyes at me! LOL! That was great!

I honestly think that this is a reward type move because he has stepped up some the last few games. You know Babcock juggles lines when needed and for the start Kopecky will get second line minutes. BTW haven't heard much from Happy Hudler in a few games, could he have peaked? Good for Kopecky! I am not saying he is 2nd liner, but for the way he has been playing he deserves a bone once too! 5-1 Wings! (Kopecky, Cleary, Datsyuk, Hank, Ericsson - Nash (doesn't he always?))

Oh for God's sake would you folks please get off the McCarty train! He is washed up, useless, can't fight anymore, can't score (could he ever) and is USELESS! Don't forget USELESS! Him being hurt all year PREVENTED Downey from being here in his place! IF he were healthy he would've been sent down to GRR and Downey would have been the 13th forward! McCarty = Done! Now lets drop the McCarty ideas ok?