LeftWinger

Uh.... This statement baffles me. How many Hall of Fame goalies have LESS than 3 Cups to their name? How many will NOT finish in the Top 5 ALL TIME in WINS? ...some folks just refuse to give OZzsie his credit. Will Hasek get in? How many Cups does he have? How many did he win personally? He WILL end up with LESS wins than Ozzie. If the Wings DON'T go to Ozzie last year, they DON'T win the Cup... again....

...very nice read, but Detroit is doomed as long as City Council is allowed to run this place. Mayor Archer had great ideas, he was well on his way to turning Detroit into a place to be visited, then everytime someting came to vote, City Council said no. Blame them for this cities current state, blame Kwame for his personal failures, but that is how he was raised, but blame CIty Council for this crap! Detroit needs a City Council AND a Mayor, that hasn't been tainted by the Colman Young Administration. While they're at it, how about a Cheif of Police was HASN'T work under the outgoing CHeif of Police? Once after another, different person, same agenda. Same s***, different day. Matt Millen and Martin Mayhew. Northwest or Delta. Make the Unions take paycuts and the CEOS get millions in bonuses and Golden Parachutes... ...Detroit CAN be a Star, lets hope that the Movie Industry makes a BIG splash here. We need another industry. Autos being destroyed by the Government and Airlines and being destroyed by greedy CEOS... Where do we go? Go Wings, that's for sure!

...they should play "That's The Way I Like It" by KC and the Sunshine Band. If you replace the word "That's" with "Dats" when you sing it. Actually, it kinda sounds like he is singing "Dats" if you listen to it. "Dats the way, uh huh, uh huh I like it! Uh huh, uh huh!"

...we were just talking about this at work today. The ONLY way the Wings sign all three is if Zetterberg signs for $6,000,000, Franzen for $3,000,000 and Hossa would have to take $4,000,000. The Wings only have about $15,000,000 available under the cap next season, a little more if it goes up a bit. But even this scenario would see Hudler, Kopecky, Chelios (gone anyhow,) McCarty (gone too,) & Howard gone. They'd have to get Conklin to sign or less as well. (I don't think they are even looking at giving Howard and chance, he may as wel be packaged for some picks this trade deadline.) ...ok, in a perfect world, that would allow the Wings to retain all three, BUT, it'll never happen! Why? Well, Zetterberg will probably get AT LEAST Datsyuk's $6.7. Franzen will get at least $4 million because of Filpulla making $3MM. Hossa would be absolutely insane to sign here for $4MM when he is goning to get league maximum anywhere else. I believe the Wings are too high og Hudler to let him go (or trade him) and they love Sammy too much to NOT offer him a contract... ...one can hope, but I believe they are going to concentrate on Zetterberg and Franzen and whatever is left over, split up between Sammy, Hudler and Kopecky... ...with Filpulla makig $3MM, how much is it gonna take to retain Hudler? He'll rate at least has much as Filpulla, ya think? ...of course if they trade Hudler and Flip and let Sammy go, they MIGHT be able to retain Hossa (as long as he takes a discount (again.)) ...sucks to be Holland come July!

...LOL! I guess if hitting ROCK BOTTOM is making it to the conferece finals every year then, shoot, I'll take that! (of course throw a Cup or two in there once in a while!) ...funny these National writers who try their damndest to knock the Wings (and every other Detroit team BTW) every chance they get. I wonder how many times Mike Ilitch and Bill Davidson have been asked to relocate their teams to a bigger TV market? If the NHL had MIke Ilitch and Crew in New York or LA, Bettman would have to change his underwear every other hour from having "enjoyment accidents!" Gary, put the Wings in the East and then you'll be in business!

...no panic, just concern. Last year we had February, lets hope that last years February is this years October, November and so far December! Face it, they aren't playing too much worse than last year. I saw a stat the other day stating that they are giving up just about the same shots on goal this season as last, but guess what? Goaltending not as hot as it was last season. I am a big Osgood supporter, but he is just not playing as good as last season, maybe last year was a Cinderella year for him, whatever the case, you cannot expect to win with a goaltender giving up nearly 4 goals a game (unless you score 5, which the Wings have had to do to get to where they are.) Conklin is just another Osgood. I am not wishing Dom was back, but he had a hell-u-va regular season last year as well... ...that is the bottom line,team playing well, goaltending suffering. Can't afford to trade for a goalie, so we are stuck with Osgood/Conklin for the entire year, but if they falter in the playoffs, look for a trade over the summer, possibly Tomas Vokoun (sp)...

...I think more so, that the deceiving "Bad" record the Wings have is that dreaded third period. Nearly all of the wins the Wings have, they have blown a 2 or 3 goal lead in the third and had to hold on or win it in OT or Shootout. Of course coming out on top is always good and a win is a win, but lets hope it's gets out of their system before April. Better to have troubles now, than to flop on your face in the playoffs. Look at last February, if that would have happened in October or December of that year a lot of us would have been calling for their heads, or someone's head! Lets hope this little "third period" funk is this years February and things kick in soon! Besides, what's the "Good" part of the "Bad" record? They've won more of those games than they've lost! It could be MUCH worse!

...I'm just laughing at your name, dude! That is obvious because of the Stanley Cup he brought to St. Louis, eh? Manny is a goat! He's the teet on a goat! Get real! Who is #14 ALL TIME? Manny?

...lol! I guess you're lucky I grasp the concept of Sarcasm! But, I do not mention it in evey post. I guess all be damned who like more things than hockey! I am sure you've never mention anything else on here BUT hockey!?!? LOL! Anyhow, NASCAR is over and one of the *** crybabies won! You don't have to read it from me until February! ...btw, last I checked, that wasn't violating a forum rule, mentioning another sport, or for you non-fans, another Hobby... ...anyhow, does anyone from California even qualify as a hockey fan? Oh, wait, the California Bandwagoners, that's right, I've heard of them...

...Always been a Hossa fan, but now that he is a Wing, even more. Sadly, unless he takes a very minimal payday, he will not be around. And sadly for Franzen, if Hossa does take that minimal salary, HE won't be around. You have the SO-CALLED cap to thank for that! Here you have marginal players singing around the league for 5 million dollars, so if he sniffs 30 goals, he could easily get more than that elsewhere. Would ALL three sign on for a discount? I could see Zetterberg and Franzen doing so, but unless they win the Cup, Hossa is the tricky one. Here's to hoping we re-sign all three, but reality says... ...all depends on what Franzen and Hossa are looking for. Franzen for Filpulla money and Hossa for less than Zetterberg...

...I cannot explain how pissed I was last night! I went to the game with the wife and kids and besides the fact that I was literally surrounded by Pens fans I also feel like I wasted $300!!!! I cannot believe the Wings gave up two 2 goal and one 3 goal lead!! This is not the first time this has happened. Ok, so they got the 5 on 3 goal and the 5 on 4 goal that made it 5-4, but very soon after we scored again to make it 6-4. That should have been over! The pens fans in my section (and they were all over) were about ready to leave, they were calling for them to change their goalie and among other things. The entire game they were complaining that it looked like the pens weren't playing hard, plenty of them were amazed on how Datsyuk was outplaying Crosby. Of course they got the last laugh when Staal stole the puck from Datsyuk in OT. Even as they were leaving (I think we were the only Wings fans in that section (at least it seemed like it)) they were commenting on how the game sucked for them except the outcome... ...Wings in serious trouble. 5 or 6 games this year have gone this way, except with Detroit holding on to win or winning in a shootout. The third period has been horrendous for the Wings, does anyone have the goals for and against in the 3rd period stats? All I could do was shake my head in disgust. What is it? Is it our Defense? Do we miss Chelios? I cannot explain it! Is it Osgood? He definately isn't playing as good this year as he started out last year. When a game is 7 to 6, neither goalie played good, but man, it just looked like the Wings lost interest and Osgood was, well, the old Osgood again. All in all, very disappointing loss, it would have hurt less if this was the first time it happened so far this young season, but it isn't, with the only excpetion being they have come out on the winning side for the most of them. Somethings wrong and Babcock better fix it or they will not make it to the finals again. FORTUNATELY the season is early and they can get this out of their system now, better than hitting a wall like this in April...

Franzen would be the one missed, the rest can go now...

...or to put it in a better perspective, do anyone feel comfortable paying some yahoo $1 million per year for getting only 10 points a year? I think there are a lot of "role players" getting ripped off if that is the case! ...and on the Lidstrom point, if he only scored 70 points in 7 years, he wouldn't be making $1 million per season either...

...every last one of those guys "saw the light" at one time in their lives as well. Lets hope McWatse of Roster Spot keeps in the light or he could fall back into the dark bellows of which all of these guys fell back into more than once! And then they saw they light again, and so on, and so on...

...not unless he is gonna sign for less than 400,000... ...if that's the case, Kenny Get It Done! F--K the Ducks!

...nobody started a thread because why do it when all you are going to hear is how Sergei sucks, he doesn't deserve to be in the Hall or the rafters, blah blah blah, ALL FROM SOUR FANS!!!! ...Ovechkin will NEVER be Fedorov because he will never be as complete as Fedorov. He may one day score more points (if he doesn't bolt for the KHL where the money is and there is no Cap) but he will NEVER get a Selke and and will NEVER win 3 Stanley Cups. Even if Bure and Mogilney went uninjured, they too would have NEVER won a Selke or 3 Cups... ...Sergei Fedorov is absolutely THE Greatest Russian to ever play in the NHL. He deserves every accoloade he receives, he WILL be in the Hall of Fame and, like it or not (especially since he scored most of his points (including 400 goals) with Detroit) have #91 retired by the Detroit Red Wings... ...of course the above statement may also be why a lot of people didn't start a topic on this, but denying the truth doesn't make it less true, they're just bitter fans who secretly wish he never left and will ALL have the TIVO going the night #91 goes up in the rafters...

...Cool, I like the laces. Just one question, Chelios is wearing ours, who let the pre-teens wear the Hawks jersey's?

...I'd take a worn out shoe over McCarty... Call Downey up, flutck McCarty

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....Cindy and Jeanne, the official Jeff Gordon and Jimmie Johnson of the NHL. Or is Jeff and Jimmie the official Cindy and Jeanne of NASCAR? Whichever, that is all of their philosophy's...

...so a player has to be looking at a guy in order to commit a penalty? Duh! You look away from the guy in order to "LOOK" innocent! Morrow sold it well, and that ref bought it before it was put on the shelf! I know you are not that naive! Penalty should have been called, blatent, blatent slew foot, horrible non-call by ref. Suspend him, fine him, then cut his nards off...

....fixed it for you....

...it was a bullsheet non-call, with the ref blantently ignoring it. The play was right there, he was looking right at it. This crap needs to stop, the refs should not be able to control the outcome of the game and when their ineptness causes a team an unfair advantage or directly results in a team losing, both ref's missing the infraction should be suspended and fined. Maybe next time instead of grabbing the ref, the next time Peca is out on this ice he should dump the puck in the zone right at the ref's head, that'll get his attention. These ref's are not God's, they should be put in their place once in a while. The NHL says it will not tollerate ref abuse, but what about player and team abuse by NOT calling obvious penalties just because of the guys name on the back of his sweater? The ref deserves to be fined and suspended for being bias...

... ... ... ... I just can't stop watching your sig! Who is it and what movie is it from?!?!?!?

just a couple of observations... ...Notice Lids coming in the door, those chicks are there for Kid Rock not the High as a Kite Draper and the dude with the Michigan cap on! WTF man, who let the illegitimate grandson of Stan Laurel into this party!?!?