LeftWinger

...problem is, these teams are all vying for a playoff spot. So people are saying don't worry, the Wings will be fine when the playoffs start, well, don't you think the #7 seed will be trying just as hard to upset the #2? You read it right, #2 seed because Dallas is now only 6 points behind us and if Holland doesn't make a major move along with minor ones, we'll be lucky to hang on to #2!!! Right now, nobody should be untouchable excpet Hank/Dats/Homer/Lids/Raf... ...Hossa/Fedorov/Foote/Glenn Murray...

Amen to that brother! Hopefully Fletcher doesn't have to same waning opinion about Hudler as we do... ...hopefully not Kindl either. Maybe Andersson or Axelsson (Dick) along with Hudler and a first... ...I like to think we'd keep Kindl, Emmerton, Abdelkader, Ericsson (of course) and Helm. Maybe Brenden Smith would entice Toronto, but I am partial to keeping some North American prospects too... ...Hey, maybe we can offer them Grigorenko!

..and if he (his agent) expects more, then let him walk...

...i certainly hope McCarty is worth it! So much for McCarty not costing us anyone in return...

...I am willing to bet that the first goalie to suffer from whatever new rules are put in place will be JS Giguere...

...so I read somewhere (forgot where) that he'll be out a week to 10 days. That means he'll miss 2 or 3 games. That is great! It shouldn't effect his getting another Norris because his stats won't take that big of a hit in only three games... K00l!!!

...even if Detroit is offering the best package? I think whomever picks up Fedorov, not named Detroit, knows good and well where Fedorov is going to sign come July 1st. So, I would think that other teams aren't so apt to give up alot for a Fedorov rental (but you may be right.) Either way Fedorov comes home. If San Jose or Ottawa is offering up more picks/prospects let them rent him through the first round (HEH HEH.) We'll just wait until July 1st then...

...ahhh, but you do think that loyalty to McCarty trumps what Downey has done this year... interesting... p.s. response: I have seen Downey fight plenty and when McCarty got bought out, he barely fought anymore even in Calgary he barely fought. And when he did, he was less and less effective at it. Downey is a better fighter, IMO. Darren does bring in the experience factor and I would welcome him back, but not if it would knock Downey back to waiver's. Darren can be a Wing for life, he can, but if I had to choose who would be my tough guy, Downey wins hands...uh...Down...ey :hockeysmile:

...remember, just because Holland offers him a contact and he signs it, doesn't mean he'll be a Wing. It just means he'll be another Red Wings property playing in GRR, that is the ONLY guarantee for him. He would be available for call-up if needed. Not guaranteed a spot on the roster. I find it hard to believe that Holland would offer him a contract though, without thinking (knowing) that McCarty could be useful at the NHL level, so either way good for us, good foe him! He get to retire a Wing, just like Osgood got to come back and just as Fedorov will. And they will both retire where they had their greatest success, Detroit. (hopefully after a couple more successes, )

..remind me again, are you for or against Fedorov coming back? Either way that logic there is just silly. McCarty can come back but not at Downey's expense. Downey is a much better fighter than McCarty right now...

...while he has been out of the league for the entire season and most of last season (injured) one would think that he wouldn't bring much more to the table than Aaron Downey does. He would bring chemistry (with Draper and Maltby) and playoff experience. Why not give him a try for some playoff depth, but I hope it is not at the expense of Downey who has earned his spot on our roster...

...ahhh, but knowing that the Wings are very interested in him (he already said he'd welcome a trade back "home") would they risk losing him for nothing come July 1st? This is the same reason Chicago traded Chelios to us back in 1999. They were gonna lose him to UFA (partly because they weren't gonna re-sign him that summer (just like Columbus and Feds)) so as much as they hated trading within the division, they had to get something for him. So I think given the choice, either trade to Detroit or lose him to Detroit for nothing, the choice is obvious...

...this entire article and this reporters opinion is exactly why the NHLPA was created. If Toronto wanted to control what it did with Sundin, they should have never signed him with a no-trade clause. Sundin wanted the clause so he wouldn't/couldn't be dealt to anyone just so Toronto can get rid of him. The players union is there for the players, the players should be able to control their own destiny, ntobe controlled by the owners. It's ok to not re-sign him in the off season, but to suggest to treat him like dirt because he is honoring the contract Toronto signed him to is assinine... ...if you were to ask the author of the article what the Big Three should do in order to cut costs, I have an incling that he would say impose concessions on it's union employees or strip them of their livelihood and tell them we aren't gonna re-sign you next year. This guy is a jack-ass and obviously doesn't believe in what Ted Lindsay (and others) fought so hard for, as well as the UAW/IAM/Teamsters, etc...

...right, and who's to say that the right package is going to come from a ligit contender? The Thrashers want quality players in return, will Anaheim/Detroit/San Jose give up some of their core to land Hossa? Not at the expense of team chemistry. I agree with you, look for someone other than the top 4 teams in the NHL persuing Hossa. Unless Waddell is an idiot and trade's him for pennies... ...Sundin may just pull a Blake and say he is not waiving his trade clause for anyone. Maybe Wings should focus on players that won't cost him the world. Get Feds/Foote for a nice package. Get Stuart out of LA and maybe a Mike Comrie out of the Island...

...ooooooo inside info!!!!! ...concerning your sig about drafting Luke Richardson over Sakic. Looking at that draft I think everyone from #3 to #14 wished they could go back and draft Joe, even us! We picked Yves Racine over Joe Sakic!!!! :puke:

...so if we stand pat and the Ducks stand pat, we lose. This is why Kenny needs to make a couple of deals. Score Sundin or Hossa. Add Fedorov/Stuart or Foote. Right now we don't have secondary scoring. Remove Hudler and Filpulla and maybe Kopecky from this team add Feds and Hossa or Sundin and I think we address the secondary scoring. Get Foote or Stuart or both (Sure!) then we have definate defensive depth... ...bottom line, Kenny needs to make two or three moves to improve this club for the playoffs. Burke doen't need to make any, but if he does, they Kenny will have to do even more to better his team. Like it or not, the Ducks are built for the playoffs, the Wings for the regular season, that needs to change by February 26th or we're doomed...

...your position clarification has been noted and acknowledged... ...it's obvious we all have positions on this and other players, I just can't wait anymore to see if anything happens!!!! COME ON FEBRUARY 26TH!!!!!!

...this arguing is silly. Kenny, get Sundin, Stuart and Fedorov, now see what happens and lick your wounds later. If you lose Kronner/Hudler/Kopecky/prospect who cares, you have players ready to come up next year, plus you always have July 1st to help rebuild... ...roll the dice Kenny...

...so in 2009-2010 our team would consist of Datsyuk/Zetterberg/Lidstrom/Hossa & Sundin because they would suck up all our cap space... ...that would be a pretty good 5 man unit, Datsyuk could prolly play defense with Lidstrom, eh? I wonder in the NHL would allow us to turn our net around and make the opposing players bank the puck in to score since we couldn't afford a goal-tender...

...Kronwall is coming into his own, you're right, but would you give up Hudler and Kronwall for a Stanley Cup? Maybe 2? Sure you'd be giving up a lot of potential, but look at who is waiting in the minors with a lot of potential too! Kindl, Ericsson, Abdelkader, Emmerton and Helm to name a few. The three forwards I mentioned could come in a replace Hudler minutes with no problem if needed. But, if we have Sundin for 2 more years and Fedorov for the rest of his career and maybe another forward come July 1st (Rolsten(sp) maybe) then we really won't miss Hudler or Kopecky or Kronwall. I'd hate to trade Kronwall too, but you have to give up something, we all hated to get rid of Kozlov but it did help bring us another Cup... ...just curious, WTF happened to all the Fabian Brunnstrom talk? It seemed like for about a week every team wanted him, now we hear nothing about him, did he choose a team? Ok, back to your regularly scheduled topic... ...I'd take Sundin for this plus 2 years for sure, that makes him NOT a rental, no more than Brett Hull or Luc were. Do Holland, get him here NOW! Then go out and shore up your D and get wait to get Feds on July 1st...

Did you not read the original post? Here's the short version: Leafs must approach him about trade clause, he gets two year extension @ $5 million and the team MUST BE DETROIT... ...if you still aren't sure, go back to the original post...

...well, does that mean he only wants to play for Detroit if traded? Yay! ...he wants a two year extension to stay here for two years after we win the Cup this year? Yay! ...$5 million per year is worth it. I would pay him the money, but it all depends what Toronto wants in return... ...Sundin @ $5 million per year. Get Fedorov and re-sign him at $1.5 million per year... ...get some defensive depth (no big names) and hold on for the ride!!! ...next year, Kindl or Ericsson could make their debut. Meech and Quincey should have jobs and maybe Captain America will stay on for another to take them under his wing...

No, The Enforcer's is the... Look Up!

...easy? He may have had it easier after the Wings scored the 4th goal. But in the first period, he made some stellar saves when they needed him to. When it was still 0-0 and 1-0, he stopped some great chances, chances that were going in the last few starts. No, he didn't win it himself, the entire team stepped it up, but they had to with Lidstrom out. (They are going to have to keep it up for a few weeks now.) ...Osgood won't be traded, if the Wings came to him about a trade scenario, he would just retire. This is his last stop (much like Chelios) when he is ready to hang em up, it'll be while he wearing the Winged Wheel... ...but to answer the OP's question. It's much like your job. If you do your job and do it well, you don't hear much about it. Screw up a few times and holy hell comes down. Like the say 'No news is good news." We all know Ozzie played great, just because we aren't on here calling for a Vezina doesn't mean we don't recognize him. It's just easier to say someting when someone plays bad. No news is good news...