LeftWinger

...11 years, wow! Hard To Believe! Proud to say I was in attendance that night. When the brawl brokeout, the Wings were losing and I can remember me and my buddy both saying, we don't even care if the Wings lose this game it has been the absolute best game we've ever been to. Period. ...This is the type of team the Wings need now. A Scotty Bowman built team...

...I don't know why Bettman is messing around. If you plan on involving the Wingsin an outdoor game, why not put them and the Ducks or Leafs in Michigan Stadium? Could they sell it out? I think so, and then some. Especially if you don't charge an arm and a leg to get in. Maybe $60 at the most, then I do believe they would put over 100,000 people in there. Talk about revenue and ratings!?!?!? Too bad we couldn't go back to March 26th, 1997 and put the Wings/Aves in Michigan Stadium...

...he will never score tonight. I have a better chance of winnning the lottery than Hudler scoring a goal tonight. I think Yzerman or Miroslav Frycer have a better chance than Hudler does at scoring a goal tonight...

...your avatar says it all... ...first of all, I never said I wasn't coming back, I really enjoy reading you guys worship the Wings with all your man love. They can do nothing wrong, OMG they rock! They are the best thing since, well, since the dawn of light... ...this forum would be boring if you didn't have opposing opinions to read. Do you really want to come here and just see a bunch of oooooing and ahhhhing over this team? Just because I post, doesn't mean you have to read it, besides I don't ever remember offering anything, I say what I want to say and then read assinine comments like yours TRYING, I repeat TRYING to belittle me because I don't walk down the same narrow hallway as you walk while wearing the rose colored homer glassess... ...you my friend should hand in your card, because as a TRUE fan, you should be able to see when someone's screwing up or not playing good enough or doesn't deserve to be on this team. BUT NOOOOOO!!! These Wings can do no wrong! They are, OMNIPONTENT!!! Hudler is the second coming! Darren McCarty is gonna solve or toughness AND secondary scoring! He sucks, but it's MAC!!! So we have to win the Cup now!!! OOOOOOOHHHHHH, AAAAAAAHHHHHHH...

:puke: ...Hudler is not straight... ...he's a non-winner... ...he isn't 100% mentally there...

...if anything it should be electric that night.

...is there any respect amonst PEOPLE these days...

...well I have a feeling that Kopecky will play and Drake will be out if that was the case. But Drake does have the more playoff experience, but Kopecky can net some goals better than Drake. It's a toss up! But you Wings fans are gonna be dissappointed either way I believe... I hope not though! Opie, I tried to re-apply for my card, but the Wings denied me. I am on probabtion until Fedorov is either signed by Detroit or by someone else and he is no longer available!

...anyhow, I am happy for Mac from a personal standpoint and the Joe will be electric the first time he steps on the ice in front of the home fans. Makes for a great NHL perseverance story. In all seriousness though, is Darren McCarty the man you are hanging your playoffs hopes on? Does this address your secondary scoring issues that more than likely will dissappear in the playoffs again? Yes the Wings have played and looked better the last 2 game and sure he will provide some spark for the fans, but how much is he really gonna help your team? ...with that being said, they should sit Hudler, he is invisible out there and they could put the Drake/Kopecky/Downey line together and plug McCarty in with Draper/Maltby and they would have have two hard hitting, grinding lins along with, dare I say, two scoring lines, although I am still very skeptical about the secondary scoring issues... Holmstrom/Datsyuk/Zetterberg Franzen/Filpulla/Cleary(when healthy) Maltby/Draper/McCarty Drake/Kopecky/Downey ...notice I left Sammy out of the lineup, I know this won't happen, so Babcock is gonna have to plug him in somewhere. Probably makes Drake the 13th forward and move Franzen down to Kopecky's line, but I think he has played well enough to be get some #2 line playing time. Oh well, either way that's your playoff forward lineup (unless for some putrid reason they keep Hudler in there.) Good luck Wings, in my opinion that just is not gonna get you a Cup, but hey, you cannot win it every year and like we've discussed, you cannot be raped by a desperate team in order to secure your 2nd line scoring, and Fedorov wasn't even a lock for that. Wings fans will have fun watching, but it will end with dissappointment unfortunately, if it doesn't, then good for you!

...well if McCarty works out, I think with him and Downey we have plenty of these type of players. I just hope they play together instead of Drake playing with McCarty. I guess what I am saying is I hope McCarty works out and takes Drake place NOT Downey's... ...They we don't need Avery... ...edited Opie. Is this better? How about YOU don't need Avery...

...the problem is, Dom doesn't even disguise it has him going for the puck. Expecially the first time he did it this year he made no attempt at the puck, he just skated out a slid into the player, tripping him. He is gonna do this in the playoffs and the WILL call him for the trip and we will lose the series on that powerplay... ...I like poke Czech, but I got a name for it that fits even better. PENALTY! Dom, stay the F**K in you net!!! ...btw, this is another good example as to why goalies should be fair game when they attempt something assinine as this. If they can come out, WAAAAY out of their net and just blatently take the player out while pretending to go after the puck, without being penalized, then they should be fair game. Then he would stop this stupid S**T. Just call the penalty already...

...nope, apparently, as the article said, the Wings still wanted to get Fedorov, despite the fact that Babcock MAY have been the one who didn't want him. That is UNTIL Columbus tried to rape Holland, then he said, #$@# Off! ...this will lay to rest IF Fedorov doesn't sign here in July. If he signs elsewhere THEN it'll be laid to rest...

Chelios?

...I agree, if you read my earlier post I said I am glad Holland DIDN'T make tht deal and I am tired of teams trying to RAPE the Wings and then accept WAAAAYYYY lesser deals from someone else for the same player. I am now talking general opinion. If, come UFA season, you had to choose to either re-sign Sammy or sign Fedorov, which would you rather do? ...if you are wondering, considering what Columbus got from Washington, the MOST I feel the Wings should have had to offer them would have been Francis Lemieux. All things considered. And if they wanted more from us to trade wihtin the divsion I would have thrown the rights to Grigorenko in there for the hell of it! ...seriously though, this is why we need an arbitration board for these trades. Trades should be fair for everyone, just because the Wings are the elite and the rest of the NHL, well, aren't, doesn't mean a team should be able to rape them... ...like I said, here's to Holland siging Fedorov in July and having BOTH he and Filpulla on the 2nd line and just tearing Columbus up each time they play! Take that salt in yor wound Columbus!!!

...my only question to ALL is, who would you rather have on the point during the powerplay? Sammy or Fedorov?

...you won't have to worry when they try to sign Kolzig over the summer...

Feel for the Aves? ...love the avatar! Who is the guy falling?

...all right allright, enough with puttings word in my mouth! J/K! I read the article and as much as I am a harsh critic of Holland (rightly so on some occasions) I am a worse critic of teams trying to rape Detroit because of the winning history. To ask for a NHL roster player AND a 1st round pick for Fedorov and then trade him for a mid-level prospect!?!?!?! Two things happened here. #1- Columbus tried to rape Holland and then 2, when Holland refused to part with what they wanted, they ask for FAR less from Washington to spite Holland and rub salt in the wound. No team wants to make Detroit any better, since they have been the NHL's ELITE since in early 90's, so if they are going to make them better, they are gonna try to rape them in return. This happens all the time, teams ask for the moon from Holland and then accept less from somewhere else. I am encouraged by the article and the fact that despite Babcocks reservations on Fedorov that Holland wanted him anyhow, this gives me something to look forward to July 1st. Maybe Holland WILL offer Fedorov a contract and then he will have the last laugh when Babcock puts Fedorov and Filpulla on the same line and they wipe Columbus' ass up and down the ice everytime they play next year!!! Revenge is sweet! ...I can see some of your reactions now, , that may be close. Surprised I am not saying exactly what you guys thought I would say. Hey, I have come around on the Euro's I guess I can give Holland a little credit where credit is due. Hey, trade day, draft day and July 1st are very stressful times for Wings fans, so I overreact alot when it comes down to certain things. I should have seen the rape Columbus was trying to put on Holland, I thought he didn't want Fedorov because Babcock didn't want him. I am enthused that he actually did, that is great news. That doesn't mean I am back on the Wings card, I am a little upset that they didn't address their secondary scoring, but at least now I know they tried to! ...this may sound surprising, but Good On Ya Holland! Although I wanted you to trade for Feds, that was a lot to ask for in return, glad you didn't do it! I just hope you offer him something come UFA day!!! PLEASE!!!!!

Mike Modano and his 10 year old brother. Really that is Patrick Kane of the Blackhawks, he does look 10 though doesn't he! ...crazy...

...hey Arice, make a note, I am not the first one to mention Hall for this upcoming UFA season...

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...well, that's not saying much for our teams grit if you are relying on Cleary and a guy who hasn't played for nearly 2 years in the NHL as our grittiest players. I think that we are in huge trouble if Cleary is our grittiest player, so when he comes back he is gonna solve our problems with grit and scoring? Is he the power forward we needed the Brendan Shanahan type? Dan Cleary and power forward, thats an oxymoron... but hey, good luck to McCarty at least he'll put butts in the seats at JLA...

...and for Wings fans sake, I hope he helps. He should, but I am just tired of hearing Holland's crap. But, hey, bottem line, what do I know? If I knew, I'd have a different career...

...besides your valid points, add to that, if he fills any of our needs, he will not be signed by Holland, because that is what Holland does, bypassess any and all players that fill our needs in order to save money for washed-up goaltenders and soft players like the majority of our team is made up of. Our team makes for a great regular season team, I look forward to many more Presidents Trophies and Norris Trophies and Selke's and possibly a Hart or two. But forget about Stanley...