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...I don't see why he wouldn't get some votes... ...The Wings could have many awards. Why not Zetterberg for Hart? Why all know Datsyuk for Bing, maybe Selke? Babcock for Adams, Lidstrom and Rafalski up for Norris and how much consideration would Osgood get for Vezina if he finishes with 25-30 wins and still leads the league in GAA? He'd have to get some, right?

... Wow, you obviuosly know what your talking about! Man if he sucks that bad, we should be able to pick him up off the waiver wire pretty soon, eh?

...you'll have to excuse him, as well as most of the members on here. They all hate Forsberg because he was an ave. They hate Fedorov because he left. Even though the addition of either of those two would pretty much guarantee us a Cup. Both would cause other teams to file grievances with the league. Add Blake and they'll disqualify us for conspiracy to buy the Cup. These guys are just to afraid to admit the would all love to see Feds back with us. One thing I would change about your lineup, Trade Hudler. He totally sucks, is overrated (on this forum) and pretty much lacks what it takes to make it in the NHL...

...Fedorov is STILL better than over half our team... ...BTW it is real. Fedorov will not be overpaid here. The only reason he hasn't been effective is because of the teams he's played on. (that is why Osgood is so good right? Because of the team he plays for? Not because he, himself is that good?) So put Fedorov back on the Wings and he's back to a top 4 forward. Great example, where else does Cleary do so good? Nowhere but here. Put him in Columbus and he's a #13 forward. Hudler pukes even here, so trade him for a bag of used laces...

...Well, lets just say when Fedorov happens, you'll wonder how I knew. If not at the deadline, then UFA... ...Fedorov back to the Wings, #91 in the rafters. End of story. I honestly don't think managment cares or not if Fedorov gets booed right now, as soon as he's back, the boos will change. It did for Chelios. ...Anyhow, back on subject, Blake will not be here because of his injury. Too risky now. If they do trade for him, he will re-injure in the first round, if not sooner and be out for entire playoffs. Time to look elsewhere...

...he will be back either at the deadline or as a UFA. You guys are gonna have to get over your hatred for him... ...it is already done, written in stone, as sure as the sun will come up tomorrow, Fedorov will retire a Red Wing...

...forget Blake now, even if he rests for 2-3 weeks, it won't be the same, he comes here and sucks or re-injures it in round 1 and we are no better than we are now. We go for Foote now... ...which means it'll be Fedorov and Foote in the Winged Wheel come Feb. 26th... ...welcome home Sergei and welcome to the "other side of the tracks" Foote! (hey, maybe give Forsberg a call ad tell him it'sok to come here and play.)

...not only does the music/multimedia entertainment suck, but I am am tired of Bud Lynch. God bless him and here's a hearty :beerbuddy: to his Hall of Fame career, but it's time to go. This is not the same old Red Wings. Long gone is the Steve Yzerman era. This is the fast paced Zetterberg era and we need a multimedia and P.A. annoucer who reflects the changing game... ...you are never gonna get rid of older music, and rightly so, some 80's and early 90's music can hang with (or put to shame) most of the music coming out now-a-days. I have always been partial to them playing "Welcome To The Jungle" when the Wings come on to the ice for warm-ups. I would also love to hear Ministry's extended version of N.W.O during warm-ups...

...Lets see, Peter Forsberg or Darren McCarty... ...that doesn't even warrent a comment. Sign Forsberg (if he'll come) and then package Hudler to LA for Blake...

Just how many Americans do you think are on the team now? So you are saying that is why the Joe doesn't sell out? again...

...may have been a charge, may have been a dive. Neither of which sets him apart from 50% of the league...

...ok, with the trade deadline coming up, I figured maybe start a thread where we can discuss any and all players insted of the 900 different threads with the guys last name as the topic: "Forsberg" "Fedorov" "Sundin" "Hossa" etc... ...so lets centralize the trade deadline talk into this one thread. Who would you like to see go where, come here or go away. Lets be sensible though, none of the this Sammy/Lilja for Hossa crap, lets be realiztic with our wants and predictions... ...there's no doubt alot of us would like to see Hossa or Sundin here, but what about other options, smaller, less of an impact option? It's time to start looking at the teams that aren't gonna make the playoffs and see who they may be willing to part ways with... ...what will the Kings or the Lightning be giving up to change the direction of their teams? ...on a sidenote, looking at the standings, if the playoffs started today the Hurricanes would be the 3rd seed with 52 points which is less than the 4th-9th positions in the Eastern Conference. I, for one, think that just because you win your division shouldn't mean you get one of the top three seeds. The Rangers wouldn't make the playoffs and they have 3 more points than the Canes... ...on the same token, everyone in the top 8 in the west have more points than the outsiders. Also, Detroit would be the ONLY central division team to make it...

...you know what, if you pause it a moment of impact on the third replay (the closeup one at the 1:18 mark of the video) it is actually (clearly) a shoulder that hits him in the chin. Look at it, slow it down, frame by frame it. It's TooToo's shoulder that gets the impact, not his elbow as a matter of fact at the 1:49 mark it is no doubt, 100% sure that it is a shoulder, hence NOT AN ILLEGAL HIT, what is so dirty about that?

...all this is so funny! WAh Wah, I hate him, he'd make us hated, he is a prick, I'd drink my own urine before I'd want him! LOL LOL LOL! ...how many fans outside of Detroit hated Vladdy? Did that bother us back then? How many of you guys hated Chris Chelios? I know I did! Wah Wah, if Forsberg came to play for us I puke! If Fedorov ever came back I'd still boo him, I hate his greedy a$$! ...why don't you tell the truth. Sure TooToo takes so bad penalties sometimes, maybe he cheapshots sometimes, he must not do it a lot because we don't hear of him getting suspended every other week. Who would you rather have on your team, Dallas Drake (with all due respect of Drake) or Jordin TooToo? Honestly, if you were a GM, and they cost similar salaries, who be more effective in their role? Like the original poster said, put your homerism aside... ...bottom line, Jordin TooToo is about 90% of what we've been crying about NOT having all these years, a gritty, checking hard-nosed player who can knock the snot out of people and chip in the occasional goal or two. Lets pretend we pick up TooToo and maybe a couple others that have been rumored... ...imagine this team with Downey & TooToo on it. Blake or Sydor or Foote on "D" along side Chelios and Lilja. Add Fedorov or Forsberg or Sundin for extra scoring up front. Would you honestly think that we'd be physically enept in the playoffs this year? Do you think Pronger gets away with headhunting Holmstrom. Shoot, if McCarty gets a shot add him in the playoff mix. You lose Hudler for sure, Drake sits, and possibly Kopecky. Ledba becomes the 7th defensman... Holmstrom - Datsyuk - Zetterberg Cleary - Flips - Forsberg or Sundin Franzen - Fedorov - TooToo Maltby - Draper - Downey or McCarty Drake/Kopecky Lidstrom - Rafalski Chelios - Kronwall Lilja - Foote or Blake or Sydor Ledba ...that right there not only adds scoring & grit up front, but makes our D one of the toughest and best in the league... ...I know thats a lot of moves, but realistically you only lose Hudler and maybe Kopecky off your roster. Throw in a prospect and a few picks and we could get a couple of guys (TooToo, Fedorov & Foote, plus add Forsberg if he stops being a baby) although with all the rumored players to be on the block, who knows what might happen... ...If Forsberg signs with Philly, I'd be happy to pick up Sundin or Fedorov along with Blake or Foote or Sydor and, like him or not, TooToo would brings huge dividends to this team(plus he could wear #22)

...wow, that must be a record. I guess the whole "One thread for all trade deadline talk" was for naught...

...Welcome! And you're right, we need physical depth on the line (last season proved that) and a little help with scoring (like someone who could've scored on one of those 5 on 3's,) that is why I can see a combo of Feds/Foote or someone like Murray and Sydor...

...shouldn't be much considering his status at the end of the season if he isn't signed. Even though teams try to get something for upcoming UFA's they cannot expect too much from anyone because they could just wait until July 1 and give him an offer. Then again, if you want him badly enough you could make a great offer in order to get him... ...I don't think Nashville would mind trading Dumont to Detroit as much as Detroit would hate to give them someone with high potential, possibly making the better again. Right now, Nashville blows, last year they were right there with us. One or two of the right players and they could be there again, I don't think Detroit wants to cut their own throat that way. If they are interested in Dumont, they will likely wait until July 1...

...here's how it's gonna go down. The Wings will aquire Fedorov/Foote from the Jackets for Hudler/Quincey/2nd rounder. Foote will love it here and convice Forsberg it's ok to sign here. Fedorov takes Hudler's place, Foote bumps Lilja or Lebda to 7th d-man, Forsberg signs and makes Kopecky the 13th forward sharing time with Downey. Drake is there for playoff help if needed... ...that is if they don't land Blake or Sundin... ...out of left field, the Wings could possibly land someone like Jagr or Jokinen. But on a much smaller scale they could go for someone like Glen Murray, Darryl Sydor or Brian Smolinski...

...no, there will be NO contract waiting for him on July 1st 12:01AM... ...I don't why everyone thinks Hank will be a UFA this summer. He won't be a UFA until 2009! I see everyone on here, including the most knowledgable of users saying stuff like "Holland will have to save money for Hank this summer" and words to the like. The opening poster said he hadn't heard anything on contract talks, ARice (very knowledgable) answered that Holland cannot begin talks until July 1st. Then NFM25 posted the above quote. 2009 guys! Oh and BTW the rule is you cannot start negotiating until the FINAL YEAR of the contract, so in essence on day one of the 2008-09 season Holland and Zetts can open up talks and get a deal done before he becomes a UFA. Remember when Fedorov turned down Hollands contract in December of 2002 after his divorce and hiring of a new agent? He became a UFA July 1st 2003. I know this is not a huge deal, but for some reason when it comes to Hank, everyone has a brain fart over and over again about his contract... ...he is signed until 2009, it's right on this website for all to read! http://www.letsgowings.com/insider/capchart.php

...the league would love to be able to control it's players freedom, thankfully they have a union (association) to protect players rights and freedoms. If they didn't then players would be stuck in losing situations with no hope of winning a cup, ever... ...the NHL is nothing but a business, just as Ford, GM or Northwest Airlines. These companies would love to get rid of unions, so they can get rid of employee rights (but that is a different subject.)

...why would this guy not get at least the #2 line? It's not like he is a no-name UFA that nobody heard of. Half the freaking NHL was trying to get this guy, Detroit is the winner in this sweepstakes. If all those teams were vying for this guy, don't you think that he is better than a 4th liner? Or is it that the Wings are so omnipotent that nobody can touch the top two lines? Please. Hudler is established? Not now. Holland didn't travel to Sweden himself to woo this kid to be a fourth liner. Vancouver was talking about putting him on the first line. Where would you rather go, somewhere that your are going to get 30 minutes or 8 minutes? Time to stop the man-love with Hudler, he was never that great and will never be that great on this team. His trade value is going down as we speak and so will his ice-time when this kid arrives here next training camp. Package Hudler now for someone who will help us win a Cup this year and come next season you don't miss a beat with Brunnstrom... ...4th liner, we have a Griffins team full of NHL fourth liners, this kid will be on the second line with Zetterberg as his center-man... so here are the potential lines Cleary - Datsyuk - Holmstrom Franzen - Zetterberg - Brunnstrom Sammy - Filpulla - Kopecky Downey - Draper - Maltby ...unless they can get Sundin (if that is who they get at the deadline) to re-sign then that makes Downey the 13th forward again and shuffles Kopecky to the fourth line and Franzen to the third line. Cleary would drop to the second with Sundin at center then Zetterberg would return to the first line... Zetterberg - Datsyuk - Holmstrom Cleary - Sundin - Brunnstrom Sammy - Filpulla - Franzen Kopecky - Draper - Maltby ...of course as someone else mentioned, line combos are never set in stone here in Detroit, but that line up could produce many of quality line combos!

...worked for Doug Weight didn't it? Traded to Caorlina, WIN! GOes back to St. Louis, now traded to Anaheim, good chance to win, bet he'll re-sign with St. Louis over the summer...

...hmmmm Osgood being one of those who also didn't win crap while he was away from the Wings, because of the teams he was on. Resign in Detroit, revitalize his career, All Star Starter, #1 GAA, sure sucked that we picked him up instead of letting Howard come up... ...lets see Robitaille didn't come here and have a great year in 01-02? He didn't score 30 goals? He didn't have 9 points in the playoffs enroute to his first Stanley Cup? No, he would have won one if he stayed in LA, no his production didn't help the Wings one bit... ...CuJo? He was the ONLY one playing when they got swept by the Ducks. HE had the best GAA in the playoffs that year and ONLY PLAYED 4 GAMES, besides when we signed him, he was a elite goalie already... ....Wendel only played in 12 games with the Wings and he had 6 points thats 41 points prorated over 82 games. And in 10 platoff games he had 5 points... ....Fedorov has not been to the playoffs since he left Detroit, because of the team he played/plays for. Same goes for Adam Foote since leaving Colorado, who, BTW, has suffered defensively since he left... ...Holland would be trading Hudler for Someone who will help this year. No, Brunnstrom will not replace Hudler this year after the trade deadline, but next season, if not traded, Hudler loses his icetime to Brunnstrom for sure, so trading Hudler at the deadline because Holland "Has Brunnstrom" does make sense, especially if Hudler, this season, is replaced by Sundin or Fedorov, who both KNOW how to win in the playoffs...

...right, I am refering more to Fedorov and Foote, last I checked, they could still skate...