LeftWinger

...if our knees bent the other way, imagine what a chair would look like...

Doug Brown

...as hilariuos as this post is, it speaks volumes! Mike Ilitch wants to win and win now and often! He showed that when it comes to winning a World Series he won't hesitate in parting with "prospects" and HOT prospects at that to get what he is being told will bring him a Championship. Miller and Maybin were top 10 picks in the first round. They were the future of the Tigers, but this deal came up and look where they are now, the Future (probably more like the present) of the Marlins. I would not be surprised if Holland makes a blockbuster if one arises, but if you look around the league, about the only Blockbuster players are Crosby or Ovechkin and that would cost Datsyuk or Zetterberg and we ALL know that is not gonna happen... ...Fedorov will be here. After that, if Sundin or Legwand show up as well, that will be as about a blockbuster as we'll get... ...all this talk of Comrie when we could have had him over the summer at no cost (besides salary) and the majority of this board was against it. I wanted him here, but everytime I mentioned it, I was told he was a cancer and wasn't that good. Now, here we see his name again, this time he is wanted here. Too bad, because if Holland wants him, he'll cost us twice as much as he would have as a UFA last summer...

...well, no worries dude, if things (w/Osgood and the Wings) continue the way they are going, by time the All Star Game gets here, Babcock will be the coach and he WILL select OSgood as an All Star, as a matter of fact, whomever the head coach, he should give Osgood the call...

...forget Tucker... ...Sudin & Fedorov at the deadline, or sooner... ...of course Sudin ONLY if it's a sign and trade or we can get a 3 year deal with him. Fedorov will be here no matter what and he will re-sign for pennies on the dollar to finish his career here. Sundin can retire a Leaf after winning two or three Cups here... ...Hudler can go, Kopecks can go. DO NOT trade anyone from the prospects list, it's because of our prospects that Hudler and Kopecks are expendible. Kindl will be up in Lilja's spot next year or at least splitting time with him...

...nobody is saying he is the sole reason we are where we are. Yet, if You put Dom in the majority of these games and he continues to let in 4 goals on the same 18 shots that Ozzie is letting in 1 goal on, we are nowhere near the team we are now. I would give a crude percentage breakdown like this for the reason we are doing so good. Osgood 25% Eurotwins and the Demo man 25% the rest of the team 50%...

...so this explains the 31 wins on a s***TY Blues team in 2004, eh? You complain about an Osgood love fest, but your hatred for him deceives you. I cannot tell if what you are saying is coming from your mouth or your ass. Put it this way, when we RE-signed Osgood, nobody had a clue that he would play as good as this so far. Would you say that this Wings team is better than the 95-96 one? Did you know that Osgood is on pace to better his record and GAA this year than he had in 1996? So, if not playing out of his mind, or for lack of a better word GREAT, this team would be nowhere near the top of the league, with Hasek's paultry stats. So Osgood has yet to save a game? Sure he faces only 20 or so shots a game, but in hockey the goalie is the LAST line of defense. You still have to stop quality shots, not all of the 92% saves he has made were from the blueline, and he does have a shutout this season already. Oh, to compare Lundqvist with Osgood is no comparison, why you ask? Sure very similar stats, Osgood has a lower GAA, Lundqvist has a higher SAV %. Not much difference there, but Lundqvist makes over $4,000,000 per season, Osgood makes $800,000. You can have Lundqvist for that waste of cash and you can have Hasek at $2,000,000 plus incentives to back him up. Ozzie at $800,000 is leaps and bounds over Lundqvist at $4,000,000... ...same thing is going to be said about Fedorov when he comes back here for pennies on the dollar and scores 40 plus goals again. "it's not Fedorov, it's the team he is on." Give the man the credit he deserves...

...this one is funny... ...here was my reply to that... Hey Curt Shmurt, in your 11-22 6:29 PM post, are you insinuating that Yzerman has no class? Sakic passed the Cup to Bourque did Yzerman ever do that? Well, no, Yzerman never played with Bourque, but in 1997 he DID pass the Cup to Mike Ilitch (team owner who bought the team as the Dead Things) first. In 1998, he passed the Cup to fallen superstar Vladimir Konstantinov as he sat in a wheel chair and in 2002 upon learning that Scotty Bowman was retiring, he passed it along to him first signaling the end of a career. No, there's no class there, Stevie never passed the Cup to anyone he kept it for himself. ...hands down between the two of them, Yzerman gets the nod...

...FEDOROV...Foote...Legwand...Rolston...Bryz or Kolzig... ...too much money in Sudin or Naslund. Unless Detroit trades for Sudin at the deadline (which rumors out of Toronto (yeah I know) says it's gonna happen.) Then Sundin may be easier to sign next off season... ...I'd really like to see Foote here, even though he is not as good as he used to be, plus at who's expense? Lilja? Chelios will ALWAYS be here until HE decides to call it quits... ...Rolston MAY come home (he has Rafalski to try to lure him.) Legwand would be awesome in the Wings uniform, but would Nashville let their adopted son go? Feds is a guarantee, if not by the deadline, then for sure UFA... ...They definately need to let Hasek go (whether he retires or not) Bryz would be my first choice, but an older Kolzig may do the trick too... (or maybe Osgood/Howard(man we beat that horse to death!))

...so, by the look of your avatar you are a Probert fan. I assume you are a wings fan as well. Hmmmmm, Probert left as a UFA, the Wings tried to offer him a small contract but he left for MORE money. I am to assume you would defend him for leaving then, being a Probert fan and all... ...a better response from you should have been, how can a Fedorov fan defend the Wings for screwing him by pulling the offer when he had personal issues going on and THEN offering him less money and smaller contract term! Spoken like a TRUE fan of the game!

...uh....who?

...dude, you are sick...just sick...I think I just puked up in my mouth...

...how many bad games? How many bad goals? Dude his legs are open wider than Brittney Spears'... ...shut my trap? Never... tone down the language I will, but it's high time everyone get off the bandwagon because it's time to realize(after 3 straight loses) that this is a one line team and we have a washed up goalie. To me, make some deals, nobody is untouchable except Zetterberg and Lidstrom... ...this team is in a downward spiral. I hope this team continues it's fall until Kenny is exposed for the fraud he is! What a waste of money on Hasek. Sure give him $1 million that is fine, but $2 millions PLUS $2 million in bonuses, totaling $4 million against our cap!!! I said it when he signed I will continue to say it, WASTE!

...it IS ******* Hasek!!! Hey Dom, close you ******* legs once in a while!!! Hey Kenny, I got an idea, lets waste $4 milllion towards our cap on a useless ******* washed up goalie!!! As soon as Bryz was available, Hasek should have been waived. Make a corporate decesion Kenny, grow some balls! Hasek.....OUT! Give me Osgood/Howard for the rest of the season...

...Dom officially sucks... is it too late to pick up Bryz off waivers?

...well all e have to do now is put Dom on waivers and call it a day...

...oh sweet baby Jesus! Sergei took LESS money to go to Anaheim! Detroit offered him more mid season, but didn't give him enough RESPECT to get his personal prblems in order (Divorce & finding a new agent) beore he signed the contract. The Wings basically told him either signthis now or we're pulling the offer. So Fedorov being a man told the Wings to go f*** themselves and left when it came time. Disregard to crap lower offer the Wings offered him right before he signed with Anaheim, they were pretty much slapping him at that moment... ...with all that being said, on the list the only and I do mean ONLY locks are the aforementioned Fedorov because he IS the all time highest scoring European in the NHL and Modano for the same reason, him being the all time American scoring leader. That's it for guarntee's from you list... ...people with a good chance to get in are Shanahan, Neidermayer & possibly Sundin. The rest of your list is a resounding NO. They just haven't had the affect on the sport as the ones I mentioned. I highly doubt Sundin gets in now that I think about it...

...oh sweet baby Jesus! Sergei took LESS money to go to Anaheim! Detroit offered him more mid season, but didn't give him enough RESPECT to get his personal prblems in order (Divorce & finding a new agent) beore he signed the contract. The Wings basically told him either signthis now or we're pulling the offer. So Fedorov being a man told the Wings to go f*** themselves and left when it came time. Disregard to crap lower offer the Wings offered him right before he signed with Anaheim, they were pretty much slapping him at that moment... ...with all that being said, on the list the only and I do mean ONLY locks are the aforementioned Fedorov because he IS the all time highest scoring European in the NHL and Modano for the same reason, him being the all time American scoring leader. That's it for guarntee's from you list... ...people with a good chance to get in are Shanahan, Neidermayer & possibly Sundin. The rest of your list is a resounding NO. They just haven't had the affect on the sport as the ones I mentioned. I highly doubt Sundin gets in now that I think about it...

...please explain to me how that team was BOUGHT? Luc signed here when noone else wanted him. Brett signed here when noone else wanted him (he even took less money to come here) Olausson, well nobody wanted him. Dom Hasek was TRADED for, we traded Kozlov and pick(s) for him, just how was he bought? Pretty much the rest of the team had been around for a while... 2002 Cup was NOT bought, it was earned... ...1996 was not stacked, it was bought... ...lest we forget the team that started this entire Hockeytown, the 1995 team that lost to the Devils. They won 33 out of 48 games and won the Presidents Trophy that year... I think of all the teams since, this was the most important one because they learned how to lose...

....man I am not looking forward to the cold weather this year!

...eh, so Dom had a bad night! Oh well! I DO think we should ride Osgood until he becomes human though!

...and to close this chapter, Igor is not even listed as a Wings prospect anymore, at least not on redwingscentral.com. He's not even listed as a Russian Prospect...

...I'll take a bad night every 10 games. 9 wins 1 loss every ten games? What is that 72 & 8 in a 80 game season?

95-96, Stacked? Please! Stacked with who? Yzerman, Fedorov, Coffey, LIdstrom, Dino. If you call that being stacked, then what do you classify the 2001-02 WIngs at? Omnipotent? ...if having a D corps made up of Lidstrom, Konstantinov, Coffey (who's D sucked anyway,) Rouse, Eriksson, Fetisov, Bergevin & Ramsey is being stacked then what do we have now? ...I'll give four reasons 95-96 team wasn't stacked, Primeau, Greg Johnson, Tim Taylor & Bob Errey. As a matter of fact, that team was more like the one we have now. An awesome #1 line, a good #2, the grind line & a bunch of solid players with two great goalies and Osgood is STILL one of them... ...1995-96 was not stacked with superstars, period... ...because of where he played...

...there, fixed it...