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...Hmmm, just as I thought. Yashin, born in Europe, has an accent, sure he weighs over 200, but plays like he's 125... ...Lets see, if both Yashin and Comrie are cancer in the room, then I guess I was right about Holland and the reason he wasn't interested in Comire. He wasn't born in Europe, he doesn't speak with an accent, he likes to hit and won't shy away from the physical play. What about Yashin makes him different? Oh yeah, $4MM will be more than Comrie is making and would've made here in Detroit. Now tell me I am making this crap up!!!! ...if Holland give Yashin $4MM and passed on Comrie for $3.5MM then Holland should be slapped... (and fired) ...Comrie is better than Yashin...

...that is assuming we sign him, sorry I didn't explan it further...

...thing is, we don't need a top 6 forward, we have: Filpulla - Datsyuk - Holmstrom Franzen - Zetterberg - Sammmy Hall - ??????? - Grigorenko Cleary - Draper - Maltby (Kopecky) ...maybe the ??????? can be Hudler, but I seriously hope not...

...Adam Hall, Jeff O'Neil now, Sergei Fedorov at the deadline...

:puke:

...not that Bootland was a regular or even had a chance to be a regular, but this will hurt GRR more than us. But no worry, Holland will just sign Mypoopen Hertin to replace him. Ya know, he's only 40 but man he scored 25 goals in 10 season with the Swedish carpool team, plus he's 6'5" and 125lbs....

...ok, none of us are GM's, I understand. Sure, Guerin was given too much money and he obvsiously donesn't care about winning a Cup by signing on the Island for $4.5MM. I wonder if he did want to win if he would have taken $3MM to come to a winner? For that I blame Guerin, not Holland. BUT, I do blame him for giving Hasek TOO much money, I blame him for not offering Comrie enough money, he could have easliy given him the exact amount that Comrie signed for. I blame him for resigning Hudler. He should have let someone else sign him an get the draft pick(s.) My only problem is his rhetoric statements EVERY year about getting bigger and stronger. Sure he was not willing to pay the amount of cash other GM's were, but there were cheaper alternatives out there instead of icing a worse team than last year. ...I sill hold out hope that Adam Hall gets a call from Holland, of course this one guy won't make as big of impact as signing all three of my preferred UFA's, of course then again, if we gave Comrie and Guerin the exact money they signed for, we'd have no cap space left. So, I would have settled for Comrie and Hall. Maybe get Hall for less than $1MM for some depth and go from there to the trade deadline (where I still believe Fedorov is in the plan.) ...ok, so I have settled down some, it's Friday, I am relaxed. For now! LOL!

...hope in one hand, sh*t in the other. He already let us down...

...I love wasting money. Hasek said he was going to play in Detroit only or retire. Holland should have offered him $1MM or let him retire. I would be just as confident with Osgood/Howard... ...take a look at this team, out of 12 forwards, 3, THREE!!!! of them are North American. WTF!!!! This lineup is the absolute worst looking lineup I have EVER seen in this city! Lets see, we lose what VERY LITTLE grit we had and what do we do? Resign a useless, soft, piece of crap whatever the f*ck he is European... ...pardon me being mad, but crap! EVERY F*CKING YEAR we hear the same sh*t! "We have to get bigger and grittier!" We hear this from Holland himself!!! What does he do? Waste money and just signs a bunch of useless European players. I tired of it. I am really proud of this team, team f*cking Europe, just f*cking great! Why don't we change the jersey's and put the names of the players BELOW the numbers? Crap, we can't anymore European, may as well go for the whole 9! How long until Ken Holland gets a mention from Geoge W. C*cksucker Bush for giving the Red Wings North American jobs away!?!? ...I know, I know, not quite the same, but crap! I am so tired of this little, afraid to hit team. It'd be different if Holland didn't blow smoke up our butts (much like our Government) and do the complete oposite of what he said he was gonna do. What did he say last off-season? "I don't want to sign anyone long term because NEXT years crop of UFA's will be better to choose from. HE IS SAYING THE SAME CRAP NOW!!!! You know what Kenny? You lost out on Comrie. You could have given Comrie the same money, do you think he'd rather play here or the Island? Let me guess, Comrie is not our type of player, why? Because he wasn't born in Europe, doesn't talk with an accent, likes to hit, has a mean streak to him, what is it Kenny, why wern't you interested in Comrie? Oh!! Hakken Luben was available for twice as much money, and Jukken Laben, your European scout says he is great, although he's 37... ...pardon my rant, but holy jessie!!! Where's the Tylonol?

couldn't agree more! ONe more chance Holland... SIGN HALL!!!

...although $4.5MM I think is too much for Guerin, if Holland wouldn't have wasted $2MM on Hasek, maybe we could've got him. Ok, so 2 out of 3 of my preferred UFA's are gone. If Holland is looking fopr depth, the Adam Hall better be signed, because I am getting ready to start the first official f*ck Holland thread... ...Adam Hall will come for less than $1MM and would fill in great on the 3rd line, which btw doesn't have a center now that Comrie wasn't signed. Also what-a-waste on Hudler. He f*ckin sucks and will never pan out... ...you got one more shot Holland, sign Hall or get fired...

...$2MM is TOO much... ...what-a-waste...

...Adam Hall, Mike Comrie & Bill Guerin... ...Now that is talent, for less than $6MM...

...what a waste of money and a roster spot... ...lose Bertuzzi, replace h im with Hudler. What an upgrade!

...hasek at $3.5MM can take a long walk off a short pier. He isn't worth it, he shouldn't be asking for it, I'd take my chances with Howard/Osgood before I'd give Hasek $3.5MM. Does he want to win? Doesn't he realize we need that money to sign a couple more FWD's? He is insane, I wouldn'r offer him more than $1.5MM, then let him go if he doesn't take it! I just puked in my mouth thinking that Holland would even think about giving him $3.5MM... :puke: Sorry couldn't re-swallow it...

...so I guess that leaves Comrie, Hall & Guerin...

...I am willing to be he gets the #7 spot ahead of Quincey. Sheet, if Lilja goes back to his old self, Ference may find himself #6...

Adam Hall, Mike Comrie, Bill Guerin (Hasek)

...Hmmmmm.... 2 weeks a season? Regular Season w/Detroit 2000-01 Detroit NHL 72 20 18 38 +9 30 187 10.70 1999-00 Detroit NHL 72 18 18 36 +11 28 165 10.91 1998-99 Detroit NHL 79 29 29 58 +10 45 209 13.88 1997-98 Detroit NHL 80 25 27 52 +14 46 221 11.31 1996-97 Detroit NHL 75 23 22 45 +21 46 211 10.90 1995-96 Detroit NHL 82 36 37 73 +33 70 237 15.19 1994-95 Detroit NHL 46 13 20 33 +12 45 97 13.40 1994-95 CSKA Moscow CIS 10 3 4 7 - 14 - - 1993-94 Detroit NHL 77 34 39 73 +27 50 202 16.83 1993-94 Adirondack AHL 3 0 1 1 -1 15 9 0.00 1992-93 Detroit NHL 17 4 1 5 -1 14 26 15.38 1992-93 Adirondack AHL 45 23 36 59 - 54 - - 1991-92 Detroit NHL 7 0 2 2 -2 2 9 0.00 Playoffs w/Detroit 2000-01 Detroit NHL 6 4 1 5 -2 2 14 28.57 1999-00 Detroit NHL 8 2 1 3 -3 12 18 11.11 1998-99 Detroit NHL 10 6 1 7 -3 4 28 21.43 1997-98 Detroit NHL 22 6 8 14 +4 10 47 12.77 1996-97 Detroit NHL 20 8 5 13 +3 14 58 13.79 1995-96 Detroit NHL 19 5 7 12 +3 10 38 13.16 1994-95 Detroit NHL 18 9 7 16 +12 10 45 20.00 1994-95 CSKA Moscow CIS - - - - - - - - 1993-94 Detroit NHL 7 2 5 7 +3 12 16 12.50 1993-94 Adirondack AHL - - - - - - - - 1992-93 Detroit NHL 4 0 2 2 +1 2 5 0.00 ...get your facts right. Detroit didn't "GET RID" of him, he happened to be something Buffalo wanted in exchange for Hasek. Do ya think we could have offered the rights to Kory Kocur for Hasek? Nobody can play under Gretzky. Brett Hull retired because of it. Wayne is a great hockey mind, but terrible at coaching! Absolutely terrible! He needs to step into just an owners position because he also sucks as a GM of any type... Mike Comrie: Always been a winner. Even last season when he was a "CANCER" he scored 20 goals among 45 points in 65 games. That is nearly 30 goals and 70 points if he played the entire 82 games... 2006-07 Ottawa NHL 41 13 12 25 -1 24 87 14.94 2006-07 Phoenix NHL 24 7 13 20 +1 20 38 18.42 2006-07 Total Phx/Ott NHL 65 20 25 45 0 44 125 16.00 2005-06 Phoenix NHL 80 30 30 60 +2 55 190 15.79 2004-05 Farjestads BK Swe 10 1 6 7 -5 10 16 6.25 2003-04 Phoenix NHL 28 8 7 15 -8 16 65 12.31 2003-04 Philadelphia NHL 21 4 5 9 +2 12 36 11.11 2003-04 Total Phi/Phx NHL 49 12 12 24 -6 28 101 11.88 2002-03 Edmonton NHL 69 20 31 51 -18 90 170 11.76 2001-02 Edmonton NHL 82 33 27 60 +16 45 170 19.41 2000-01 Edmonton NHL 41 8 14 22 +6 14 62 12.90 2000-01 Kootenay WHL 37 39 40 79 +23 79 - - 1999-00 Michigan CCHA 40 24 35 59 - 95 - - 1998-99 Michigan CCHA 42 19 25 44 - 38 Bill Guerin: You say he is a ghost on the playoffs, so he had 0 goals last season, but jusy a year before that he had 3 goals in 5 games for Dallas. If he would have played in our 18 playoff games last season he would have had 11 goals. (p.s. that is more than Datsyuk had.) ...so, your reasons are unfounded and really have no bearing on why we should or should not sign these guys. I prefer Comrie over Kozlov only because we've already experienced the Kozlov era, plus Comrie is younger and isn't afraid to hit. Adam Hall would be great for the price. He should cost $1MM or less since Minnesota didn't even offer him a qualifying offer... Third line grinder with toughness (remember when he went toe to toe with Shanny a few times?) and the ability to chip in a few goals, he does have 50 goals in 300 or so games which, btw is a better scoring percentage than Kirk Maltby, and Hall will actually hit and fight, not just hit and run...

...Comrie...Hall...Guerin... (Hasek) Done! Stanley Cup 08!

...you may be right about Andrew, but this IS the Brad Ference that we think it is... http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?i...amp;hubname=nhl This is the guy everyone is thinking it is. 250 games played... 27-Jul-06: Signed as an unrestricted free agent by the Calgary Flames. 25-Nov-05: New Jersey Devils traded Pascal Rheaume, Ray Schultz and Steven Spencer to the Phoenix Coyotes for Brad Ference. 08-Mar-03: Florida Panthers traded Brad Ference to the Phoenix Coyotes for Darcy Hordichuk and a 2nd round selection (later traded to Tampa Bay - Tampa Bay selected Matt Smaby) in 2003. 17-Jan-99: Vancouver Canucks traded Pavel Bure, Bret Hedican and Brad Ference and a 3rd round selection (Robert Fried) in 2000 to the Florida Panthers for Dave Gagner, Ed Jovanovski, Mike Brown, Kevin Weekes and a 1st round selection (Nathan Smith) in 2000. 21-Jun-97: Drafted by the Vancouver Canucks in the 1st round (10th overall) in 1997. ...doesn't sound too bad if indeed we do have him...

ok, I'll take him for cheap. We still need to get Hall, Comrie and Guerin... Defense Lids Kronn Chelly Rafa Lebs Lily Fers ...not to shabby of a setup. Keep Quincey and Kindl on reserve...

...do you care to list their full forward core? Kopecky is not a guarntee, Hudler is unsigned, so if can list 13 more guys, then we'll stop all this aquire someone stuff...

Hall doesn't suck, Comrie can be the #3 center, the others are better on the wing and Guerin would thrive with Dats or Zetterberg... ...add those three to our roster and we get a helluva lot better!

...relax dude, the most of us agree with you. The Wings were already in first place last season before the aquired Bertuzzi. We aren't going to miss him. Most people who are bitching are mad because they didn't land one of the big 10 UFA's! ...all we need are some small signings to add some desire and grit to the team, which is why I am hoping for Hall, Comrie and Guerin. They all play with a mean streak and can also add some scoring... ...if we start the season with the current roster, then we'll panic...