LeftWinger

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    Roenick...

    ...well, I think he has a little more left than all you assume... ...he is still fast enough to play, obviuosly, he is still in the NHL, he can still hit HARD, just ask Dany Markov about that, when he was nearly put through the boards and had to be helped off the ice and I think put him on the right team, he can still contribute. If we're entertaining the idea of getting rid of Lang, just to cut salary, Roenick could definately provide what we would lose in Lang if not a little more desire to win that Cup that has eluded him his entire career. Talk about getting a rental player without selling the farm. Roenick may, MAY cost us a low low draft pick, he more than likely would cost the proverbial "future considerations" or "player to be named later." ...at that price if Roenick is available, I would do it. He is the type of player that would help more than he would hurt this team. If he doesn't work out, then you don't lose anyone or lose anything for next off season either... ...worth the risk (if we are dealing Lang away.) If we aren't dealing Lang, then he would be useless on the 4th line. He wouldn't get enough icetime...
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    Holland backing down?

    ...ok, it's takes a lot for me to say this, so here it goes. It's really not Holland who is at fault here. BLAH!! That tasted horrible!!!!! YECH!!! ...ok, what I mean is, there are teams that KNOW exactly what we need, these are also teams that we constantly beat the s*** out of in the 90's when we could throw millions around. I am not saying that there is a conspiracy going on, but it always seems that most teams ask Holland for the whole house when he inquires about a trade, and then when Holland backs off, they trade that player to someone else for lesser goods. Maybe they are looking to screw the mighty Wings, maybe not, it just always seems that way. I do credit Holland for not giving away the house for the likes of Bertuzzi or Tkachuk. Guerin might be worth what they are asking, but unless we are getting someone worth while, then I say screw the rest of the teams... ...Good on Ya Hollland! I say make some minor deals, ie Lapointe, and go for it with the team you have. Save your money for next season, then shove our 11th Stanley Cup up all their assess!!! (especially if it comes this year!) ...going back to what I was saying, I am sure most teams are asking about 3 or 4 certain players in return. Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Kindl & Kronwall. All of which I would say are WAAAYYYY too high of an asking price for the likes Bertuzzi/Tkachuk/Guerin/Smyth, etc... ...I know some of you won't believe that I actually wrote this post, but yes, I am supportng Holland and 4 European players! WOW! Miracles never cease!!!
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    Florida Wants Hudler For Bertuzzi

    ...well what is the truth behind the price going down for Bertuzzi? If the price is just gonna be a conditional pick, then I am definately ALL for it... ...now we can use Hudler for Guerin...
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    Florida Wants Hudler For Bertuzzi

    ...Hudler was better at every stage in his career than Datsyuk? Well except this one. Why is it that Hudler has been in the minors his entire career and Dats has NEVER? And they have been in the organization pretty much the same amount of time. (Datsyuk' rookie year being the year they drafted Hudler.) Hmmmm, I guess being good in the minors does not translate into the big leagues. I know, now you are going to say the same about Abdelkader, but if you look at redwingscentral.com prospect report, Justin is #6 right now, Hudler was never in the top 5, so he was never considered better by the scouts at that point in his career... That was my point... ...all I was saying is if we had to get rid of Hudler, lets face it, it's gonna take someone to get someone, we would still have plenty of younger prospects with just as good as potential as Hudler, if not better... ...would you rather trade Abdelkader or Hudler for Bertuzzi?
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    Florida Wants Hudler For Bertuzzi

    ...you're right, but at least this time I am not talking bad about them, I was just confirming Kenny's love for the European born player. It was more of a shot at Kenny... ...anyhow, I believe the risk is worth it. Even though he is coming off an injury, he would definately fill more than one void in this lineup, if he is healthy enough to play...
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    Florida Wants Hudler For Bertuzzi

    ...maybe he is delaying his return because he is not happy there and wants out. Maybe he is dragging his feet, you know, how some people are allways calling in sick to work when they don't feel like going in that day... ...maybe he does't want to come out and say he wants out, but really does. Heck do you know anyone who WANTS to play for the Florida Panthers?
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    Florida Wants Hudler For Bertuzzi

    Hudler is never gonna shine here. Period. Let's say we keep him, then next off-season whe the age of UFA's go down, and we sign a bunch of guys, Hudler will not even make the club. We have to do something to trump the Nashville trade, and I say if Kenny doesn't give them Hudler for Bertuzzi, then he will only fall another notch on my (and many others) good standing list... Hudler, I believe, along with Williams are the only younger guys than someone MAY have an interest in. Williams MAY get us a Lapointe type player, if Hudler will land us Bertuzzi, then do it. But kenny is so high on his European players that I wouldn't be surprised. Besieds, how much young talent do we still have in the minors and over-seas that are waiting for their chance in Detroit? JUSTIN ABDELKADER, CORY EMMERTON , JOHAN RYNO & IGOR GRIGORENKO to name a few. All of which are better than Hudler at this point in their respective career's... ...make the trade, Hudler for Bertuzzi, done deal... ...resign him, because next year we will have a ton of money (as opposed to this season) to sign players. If we trade Lang for a draft pick or 2, Ficsher's contract should come off the books, resign Maltby to less than a million, give Schneider about $2MM. We should have lots of cash to throw around, as long as Holland doesn't give Dats the max...
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    5 Reason's Datsyuk Will NOT Be Traded

    ...so put Zetts on a line with say, Crosby or Yzerman or Fedorov or Larionov or Adam Oates (in their prime, of course) and he will only score single digit goals? Please! Put Z on a line with ANY playmaker along with a player who takes the abuse (ie. Holmstrom, Lapointe, s***, even Ciccarelli in his day) and he still scores 40 or 50... ...you know, you can have a Turkey sandwhich without cheddar cheese. Swiss cheese taste's just as good with it and so does provolone...
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    5 Reason's Datsyuk Will NOT Be Traded

    ...exactly, who's to say Lidstrom won't play 20+ seasons? Lids looks to be on his way to his 5th Norris Trophy, barring an injury or NHL politics, he should win it hands down. So, if he does decide to re-sign, you now have to pay him the max, or somewhere close. Now what do you do? LIds, Dats & Zetts accounting for a huge chunk of your salary cap... ...sure I am looking into the future, but the time is going come when you have to face that decision... sooner than you think...
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    5 Reason's Datsyuk Will NOT Be Traded

    ...ok, you give Datsyuk what his agent is asking for, then in 2009, what do you give Zetterberg? You have to pay him at least what Dats is getting, if not more. So, now when it comes down to signing both of them after their NEXT contracts are up, who do you keep? You cannot pay both of them top dollar... ...I choose Zetterberg...
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    Wings scouts at Preds/Blues game last night

    ...well I say land both of them and totally trump Nashville's aquistion of Forsberg. The Wings are going to have tons of money next off-season for UFA's, why not land these two guys and re-sign them in the off-season? Unless, of course, they will be looking for Nick Lidstrom type money... ...either way, make the deal, get some rent-a-players. Yeah, sure, it's that easy!!! LOL! ...ok, Wings aquire Bertuzzi, Tkachuk, Guerin, Doan, & Smith... Then they lose them all to Free Agency this summer, Holland has to have open tryouts to fill in all the gaps he traded away in players and prospects!
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    New York Daily News says Schneider is available?

    ...a side note, question that is... ...what happened to Adam Hall's value? He was an absolute beast against us when he played for the preds, now he's been traded twice in less than a year, and yet, we've never had any interest? Does anyone have any ideas what may have happened to his value? ...ok, now back to Schneider talk...
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    OFFICIAL: Forsberg traded to Predators

    ...well Nashville is one of the better teams in the league right now. And this day and age of NON-dynasty teams (thanks to the salary cap,) why not waive the NTC to have a good chance at winning the cup, and then sign somewhere else the following season if you aren't really happy there... ...well, who's left that we want, Bert, Doan, Smith, Lapointe?
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    OFFICIAL: Forsberg traded to Predators

    ...well at least we didn't get UNDERbid this time. Usually players that we want are traded for FAR less than what we offered them to another team... ....I agree that is too much for a UFA. Even if they re-sign him, that is a lot of young talent to give up. Good for Philly!
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    OFFICIAL: Forsberg traded to Predators

    ...even though it isn't official, I guess there isn't much power of the Swede influence...
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    Return of Hatcher?

    ...which, of course, is a good reason Holland who do such... ...hey, if it weren't for the salary cap, Hatcher would still be a Wing. It's not like they WANTED to get rid of him, they had to. If they only have to pay 3.5 for him, then I would say there is a good chance they would do it... ...of, course, Holland is going to do whatever he feels is best for this team. I could see a package including Forsberg and Hatcher. Wasn't there a stilpulation in the buyout rule that the player being bought out couldn't re-sign or be traded back to the buyee within 2 years? Maybe not, but I thought I heard that...
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    MLive: Forsberg talk heats up, deal "in days"?

    ...not really, Datsyuk and Zetterberg were both on the Wings their first professional season, neither of them spent a minute in GRR. Hudler on the other hand... ...nice trade rumors going on, I love this time of year!!! ...hell it ain't our money!!!
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    MLive: Forsberg talk heats up, deal "in days"?

    ...besides, Hudler is this teams Stacy Roest. He'll never be here for the long haul, and when he gets traded he'll fall off the radar like much of the Wings "hot" European prospects. Who is that we traded to get Lang? How is he doing? How about the guy we traded to get Chelios? Or the other one that landed us Schneider? Yeah, I think trading Hudler while he has "potential" is ideal. His only pontential is that he plays here in Detroit and would get his name on a cup by association, not by contributing much. Trade him, package him, do whatever, but just do it while people see his "potential," do it before he is exposed...
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    Howard starting tonight

    ...so, forgive my niavity, but WTF is up with Osgood? Is he injured that bad? I haven't been paying too much attention to who was backing up Hasek... ...either way, it looks like the Wings might need to address the goalie situation before the deadline, with Osgood out. I know Holland will not go into the playoffs with MacDonald or Howard backing up Hasek, will he? ...bring on Biron...
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    Zetterberg...

    ...ok, as you all know, I am historically critical of European players. I probably always will be too, but I just have to tell you and yes, put my foot right down my throat, I am beginning to see just how special Henrik is. ...I don't want to say that he is the next Steve Yzerman, but in a lot of ways he reminds of when Yzerman started taking over this team back in the mid 80's. You can just see him dominate the ice, day in and day out. I cannot tell you how amazed I was at his goal last night on the wrap around that turned into a wicked back-hander. What kind of hockey sense does this man have to (in full flight) do what he did. I would say even the Great Wayne Gretzky would have just tried for the wrap-around. But to draw CuJo out like he did, and then pretty much pass the puck to himself and completely "roof" a perfect back-hander!?!?! I was in awe! I would say this is the first time I can actually say that about the Wings this season, and this guy IS the real deal. Say what you want about Crosby and his goal from his knees and his "one for the ages" as Darren Pang so aptly put it. Do you think that Darren was watching ths game last night? If so, this one goal alone, outshines ANY goal I have seen from Crosby. Now, before you Crosby lovers jump all over me, I am not saying that Henrik is better than, or is going to be better than. That remains to be seen. But I think if you put Henrik on a team like Pittsburgh, he just may be leading the league in scoring as well, at least in the top 5. Put Crosby on a pretty evenly spread out team like Detroit, and he probably isn't leading the league. ...this guy is special,I admit it. Now, I don't want to turn this into a trade Datsyuk thread, but when it comes down to which one of these guys you give the bucks to and which one you trade or let go, I think the choice is overwhelmingly obvious we must keep Zetterberg at all cost and for his entire career. I have been a Wings devote fan since Stevie was drafted and I swear to the almighty, I have not seen a player this good in a winged wheel, at this young of age, since. I am a huge Fedorov fan, but Fedorov thrived with a team full of superstars (not taking away from anything Fedorov accomplished here in Detroit.) Zetterberg, on the other hand is pretty much on a team that has 2 superstars and about 5 "great" players, and that may be an exageration, and the rest mediocre at best. ...I am not one to eat crow willingly, but man it is tasting pretty good today!
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    Yzerman food for thought

    ...not correcting anyone here, but isn't funny how we say words so fast tht they begin to sound like a completely different word? Sort of like when we come to that point in the aplhabet, you know which one, LMNOP. But the correct term is intents and purposes, but it always comes out sounding like intensive. Ok, back to topic... ....Gretzky does suck as a coach/gm and anything else that doesn't include the word "center" in it. I hope that Steve stays behind the scenes, because if he ever took on a Coaching or GM role, I'd hate to see him get fired. As we all know the Coach is the first to go, no matter how bad the team is... ...not to say that he wouldn't make a great coach or gm but they all eventually get fired somewhere down the road. Unless your name is Bowman or Holland...
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    Is Markov alright ?

    ...that hit is the reason JR is still a value to this league. I wish we had one guy on this team that can hit like that! Nothing dirty, just hard! Maybe a 4th rounder for JR for the remainder of the season? No?
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    Zetterberg...

    ...I do believe it's his greatness along with Lids and Holmstrom that could very well bring Forsberg here to Detroit... ...I do recall in 2002 Olympics, Henrik was the ONLY NON-NHL player on Team Sweden's roster. That speaks wonders of his talents, even back then! Hard to believe he fell so far in the daft... kudos to Holland and staff on that one! (BTW, why all of a sudden is this forum getting spammed with porn site advertisments? Very disturbing...(not porn, I do like that, but disturbing that the spammers have made it to our sacred forum...))
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    Zetterberg...

    ...well, every player wants to get paid, and if I recall, Zets also held out for a little while (not as long as Dats) but settled for a longer and much less lucritive contract. No worries though, his day will come when he is making Lidstrom type money, I just hope he is stil in the Winged wheel when he gets it! ...ona side note, I think there is no question that when Lids retires, Zetts will be the next Captain...
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    Zetterberg...

    ...hey, is you glass half empty too? ... I hear what you're typing, but there is no doubt this kid is our future, not Datsyuk...