LeftWinger

apparently whatever I wrote to derail this thing was deleted! Love seeing some of the old names and old members! I hope they are all doing great! This one made me wonder.....

If we're talking trades, I would've brought back a nice return in the first 10 years of my LGW career. Other teams (forums) love them some grit and sandpaper! But now, I am just a shadow of my former "hated" self! . I will say for the record though, the 2nd from top was a mistaken identity banning! I was quickly re-instated!

I am officially going to say, IF/WHEN this draft lottery NEW rules go into effect, and we get a 57% chance at #1, and no lower than 2, Uncle Gary is officially my Uncle Gary! I still won't forgive him for 2009 (rescinding the 1 game suspension to Malkin which would've most likely given us a 3-0 series lead) but like most of our strange uncles, I can move forward with him! In the #2 scenario, I certainly hope Yzerman drafts Byfield. But if he is in love with Rossi, Stutzle or Drysdale, I hope he trades down to #3 or #4. I ran the simulator about 50 times, and Ottawa only leaped over us 4 times! With that idiot talking crap all the time (Wyshynski) I would love for NJ to get the #1 only to give it right to us!

I voted for myself because of two reasons: 1. I am off work for 4 months and could use some buyout cash! 2. I am off work for 4 months and when August 1 hits, I really don't want to go back! So I could use the buyout cash!

I'd take that trade for sure!

I love all of this!!!

This is nice that he chose us over a better team though! Maybe Z and Lids have more influence than the Sedin's do! Let's hope he's not the next Kaski. For which I mean that he never gets a chance here and then gets dealt.

Federov

What makes me sick is that Detroit will fall and a team is 5% chance will get the #1 before Detroit stays there. Like this example, I ran it once and Detroit fell to 4, and Winnipeg (2.5% chance) got the #1. Ran it 3 times, Ottawa won the 2nd time, but on the 3rd time, again Detroit fell to 4 and Winnipeg jumped 11 again to #1! How does that happen 2 out of 3 times with only a 2.5% chance of winning? ...as a matter of fact, on the 4th run, the exact same thing happened, then on the 5th run, Detroit fell to 4 again and Rangers jumped 12 spots to #1. I get it, that the lottery is just that, a game of chance, but how do teams with %18 change fall more often and teams with 2% chance win it 4 times before the 18% team even stays? If the real lottery is run similarly, this is why it is total BS! 27 times before Detroit stayed in the #1 spot, during that time MANY team won the lottery MULTIPLE TIMES, even Florida got it twice jumping 13 spots! Total garbage!

compliance buyout Abby and Neilsen. Draft Lafreniere. Sign Hall, Krug and Holtby. Re-sgn Gagner, Mantha, Bertuzzi, Fabbri, Timashov. Yzerplan in full effect!

....as long as we could sign him BEFORE the draft lottery so he can bring his #1 overall "luck" with him!! honestly, I know he said he just wants some security, but would 7 years here get us (or him) a legit shot at the Cup? He did play junior in Windsor, so he may have some connections around the area, but as we've learned over the past few years, that doesn't mean crap anymore. Plus, he's already been on TWO rebuilding teams, plus Arizona didn't fare too well,so would he really want to go to another rebuild? One that is further behind than New Jersey is/was? Now if we are able to get Lafreniere, that might change our look to many UFA's, but until we have that cornerstone, franchise-type player, I don't think we'll be seeing many stars come here. But, if indeed he is just looking for a team with cap space and term, you never know what will happen. I'd give him max salary for 7 years if it meant attracting possible others... just a little quarantine side note, I start an expansion team in NHL20 and was able to draft Lafreniere, and with my other selections via the expansion draft/regular draft (and UFA's) over the past 6 season's, my top line consists of Lafreniere - Nick Suzuki (expansion draft) - Nicolaj Ehlers (UFA) and they are unstoppable. I've also acquired his brother Ryan from the Canes, he is pretty good as well! The things we do while we are stuck at home. BTW, the ONLY current Red Wing I have is Robby Fabbri. He is the captain and leads the team in scoring most years. So if I am going by NHL20, I say Yzerman should attempt to get Suzuki and Ehlers, and keep, above all, Fabbri. My D has Trouba and Byrum as the top unit. ...anyhow back to real NHL, if Hall would turn this team into a playoff team, I'm ok with giving him a contract.

I'm with ya Mackel, I wanted a D-Man (Bouchard) but most of believed the hype draft day. I do wish we had drafted Hughes, but what do we do now? I bet we could not trade Zadina for either Hughes nor Bouchard. I wonder if we could get Dobson or Boqvuist? (again, nobody say Hague! LOL! (I still like him as a player though!))

maybe Holland would be interested in Zadina. He loved the pick enough to pass on need. We aren't going to get a Quinn Hughes-type player back in return, but maybe a nice prospect for prospect swap. Or just see who we draft this season, and let Zadina attempt to become a "fill their nets" player. Maybe if we are able to get LaFreniere, it will overshadow Zadina if he fails to live up to his "best scorer in the draft" hype. Worst case scenario, he becomes a middle 6 winger, best case, he is on RW with Larkin and LaFreniere. (or if another C becomes our #1C)

IF he did this, then you trade the pick or the person for a haul! Generally players are not like this though.

these RFA's that Yzerman traded for will all be better when the coaching staff is changed. Once Larionov (hoping!!) is here teaching the ways of the Red Army, it'll all be better. Red Army Ice Hockey to be clear, not USSR ways.

oh, ya, I am not just swapping picks and picking up an extra 2nd rounder. Hell no! If I am trading the #1 I am getting a turbo boost on my rebuild, especially if it's an inner-divisional rival, and triple ESPECIALLY if it's Montreal!

Which has been my point for a long time now. Sure, Lafreniere can be a no-brainer, selection, but you have to listen to phone calls. I am sure (as in TSN's mock up) if Montreal got the #2 and we got #1, they'd be pounding Yzerman's door down with offer(s) to flip flop picks! All hypothetical, but if they offered the trade I mentioned a few times before (Domi, Caufield, the #2 and maybe another pick/prospect) I may be inclined to make a deal like that, especially if I'm eyeing a C at the draft. You could have an entire line for the price of Laffi... Domi - Stutzle - Caufield plus maybe another pick/prospect.

Oops, sorry, I posted this in the draft thread... But my opinion is the same, if Yzerman doesn't trade the #1 to the #2 team for assets and instead just draft's Stutzle at #1, then not only is he crazy, we all are for putting our faith in him.

If Yzerman gets the 1st overall and drafts Stutzle WITHOUT trading down to the #2 to get MORE assets, then I will seriously question my support of him. Seriously...

so here's the question, you acquire Seabrook and Strome, now who do you protect in the expansion draft? Or should I say who gets exposed? Also, do you re-sign Gagner if you trade for Stome? Strome, Larkin, Mantha, Bertuzzi, Rasmussen, 2 more (Fabbri, Timashov? or Gagner? Ehn? Svechnikov? Smith?) Seabrook, Hronek, Lindstrom (or Cholowski?) Bernier You could loose Glenny or Helm for nothing also.

would any of you trade Zadina for Bouchard or Dobson? Especially if we win Lafrenier? We are in need of a 3 or 4 higher end D and I would like Yzerman to acquire a young D. (first one to mention Hague gets a NEG! Virtually of course! LOL!) seriously though, Hronek and Seider look like our future top 2 (for now,) but if we could trade for another top 3 guy (like Bouchard or Dobson) I do think that would help our D development out a ton! I guess if we were to help Chicago out by assuming Seabrook's contract, I'd be fine if that got us Strome, but they would have to give me a 1st round pick in order for me to take that contract. Also, Seabrook has 2 more years of a NMC that doesn't become a M-NTC until 2023, so if he were so kind to waive that NMC to come here (highly doubtful) we could always use him as a TDL chip for a contender in a couple of season's. But wouldn't that tie our hands for having to protect him from Seattle because of the NMC? Not like we wouldn't want to protect him anyhow...

Not sure I want Seabrook for our rebuild. Also not sure if his LTIR is a permanent one or not. If so, I'll take that 1st round pick from them too!

if we've learned anything, we aren't getting any 1st rounders for our players. But ya, a 2nd rounder for Helm or Glenny would be fine. Unless we could get a young RFA or something. Referring to the other thread, how about one of them for Strome?

So who do you trade for Strome?

...and this is before there is any type of compliance buyout (if teams get one(or two).) all of Filppula, Helm, Glenny should be a pretty nice draft pick back from a Cup team.