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yes, as a matter of fact I do realize that it makes no sense. that is why I said it. woof, woof. not one legit word, just throwing names against the wall as a fan!

I guess he left out the part where Detroit acquires Kreider. Lets do this: to DET : Chris Kreider, K'Andre Miller to NYR : 7th Round pick (much needed Cap room to sign Trouba) then to BOS : Chris Kreider, Mike Green (50% salary retained) to DET : Boston 2020 2nd then to VGK : Jonatan Berggren, Boston 2020 2nd to DET : Rights to Gusev So we give up Berggren and a 7th and end up with Gusev, K'Andre Miller. I'll take it! Make it so!

That being said, next July when all of Howard (re-sign?) Ericsson, Daley, Green, (of course Franzen's) all drop off the cap, do you think then Yzerman will be looking to male a huge splash at a UFA or two? We have $36M in cap before the RFA's contracts. Lets say $6M each for AA and Mantha, and #3M for Bertuzzi. The others (Bowey, Svech, Kaski, Kuffner, Hirose, etc...) won't be really any concern of topping $1M-$1.5M I do believe. So that should leave us $21M without Z's contract, $27M with it on LTIR. There could be a lot of damage thrown around from Yzerman. Then again, looking at the UFA crop next season, as it stands, not many forwards that look worth it and only the same crop of D look worth trying for (Trouba, Krug, Faulk, Hamonic.) I think that Krug might be the top target, especially if Trouba stays in New York. The G UFA's don't look good at all. How much is Holtby going to get paid? He's about the only one worth trying to get, but at what cost?

I kind of hope Yzerman is really interested in Gusev. Expecially if they make all of Zadina, Rasmussen and Veleno start in GR. AA - Filppula - Gusev for a 2nd line? Not too bad really.

Here's something a little interesting: https://www.nhl.com/redwings/roster While not all the way up yo date (they are missing Flip) but they show the 2019-2020 roster with Mike Green on the IR. I wonder if he is done? Could be another reason for the Nemeth signing, and also why neither of Ericsson or Daley were bought out. Plus Kronwall is still deciding whether to return or not.

Just curous, have The Wings named an Assist. Coach yet to replace Fershweiler? Or are we going back to just 2? (Bylsma and Houda)

oops, I forgot this was going on here, I posted about it again (on accident) in the Yzerplan thread. In that post I've since changed the 2nd round to Washington's 2nd round because I realized that Toronto only got a 6th back in return for Marleau dump and a 2nd round to VGK to dump some salary should be plenty! I kind of hope this happens, I know we have plenty of "kids" coming up, but as argued here recently, you'd be getting a Pro hockey player at 27 (July 8) who lead a professional league in scoring, PLUS had 16 points in 10 games at the world championship tournament. Maybe asking for the 1st in return is too much, but they are super desperate to dump salary, maybe Yzerman can get it done...

I wonder if there is any water to the rumor that Detroit is showing interest in Gusev? Somewhere on Twitter (I cannot find the tweet now) his agent said there were three teams inquiring about him and Detroit was one of them. I know Tampa drafted him originally, so I guess Yzerman would have a bit of an interest in him maybe? Anyhow, knowing that Vegas has virtually zero cap space, what could be done to help them out and also get us Gusev. I see a lot of folks talking about Clasrkson, but if he is on LTIR, his cap hit can be used if needed, ya? But what could be done? Rumor has is Cody Eakin and or Ryan Reeves could be traded. Would you take one of those expiring contracts in order to get Gusev? Is this proposal too outrageous? to DET : Nikta Gusev, Ryan Reeves (or another contract dump,) Conditional 1st (top 10 protected 2020 or 2021) to VGK : 2020 2nd (Washington) ...I only put the 1st in there because of what Toronto had to give up to dump Marleau and they only got a 6th in return, I'm giving back a 2nd.

if we seriously have a shot at Gusev, we need to get him here! Vegas has to give him up. it shouldn't even cost us Berggren. Hell, Toronto had to give up a 1st just to dump Marleau. our 2020 2nd round pick (considering it should be in the 30's) should get him here. I'd be ok with that. we've got a ton of prospects, we woul dnt miss one 2nd.

Detroit will take Clarkson's contract. it'll cost you Gusev though! Saw that on Twitter.... i think that would work for us!

so, it's rumored that Yzerman still may get another fwd and D. if so, what would guys say to: Jake Gardiner Brian Boyle both on 1 or 2 year deals.

did Gardiner sign anywhere?

ya, depth G, depth D and depth F. I think that's it for the day.

oh, there's anger. thus far the entire Yzer-plan has been confusing. but since it's not Holland, I guess we'll withhold our outbursts until we see where exactly Steve is headed with this.

where is Filppula gonna slot? AA to wing?

they won't be moved at the deadline. we'll have the crappiest D in the NHL again, nobody will want them. but hey, we're getting an AHL goalie. That'll make us more competitive. keeping the D we had last year gives zero room for young players or heaven forbid a UFA who's better than our D. Dekeyser - Green Ericsson - Daley Kronwall - Who cares. Toledo has a better D than that. ugh.... couple that with the worst starting goalie in hockey, we're in for a fun season to watch, only to get f***ed out of a lottery win again.

so, buyout period is over and we still have Ericsson and Daley.

yep.

.I'm sure glad we didn't trade Yzerman after 2 or 3 years of being the most dynamic player on this team. You don't trade your young guns, period. You draft and develop. If Yzerman was going to trade AA for a #1 D man, he would've drafted Cozens or Zegras at #6, instead of who he feels is going to be his #1 D Man in the near future. You "core" D is pretty set to develop right now, if, down the line a couple of those D don't work out, he'll just draft another. At this point, I say just develop your D core of Hronek, McIssac, Cholowski and Seider. Again, the ONLY way I trade AA, or anyone from our core, is if they become super diva and cause a problem all the time when they're contract is up.

He is our most dynamic scorer, quite easily the fastest man on the team. Sure he has value, but he is even more valuable to us to keep. The ONLY way I trade him is if he starts with the holding out/going to Arbitration crap. Signifying him long term is priority ONE. If Yzerman was that interested in trading him, we'd have Trouba or another #1 D right now. No question.

if only he'd Target Ericsson, Daley and Nielsen.

just say no to Nyquist.

there's an expansion tool on capfriendly that shows you all the players you'll have to chose to protect or not. Obviously if the player(s) aren't still on our team come 2021, capfriendly.com will be changing the list as the rosters change, but right now in the 7/3/1 format, we won't have a problem having to protect Zadina. As it sits now, I only see 5 Forwards and 2 D that are currently playing and need to be protected, the rest are easily left unprotected. Of course if Yzerman signs a UFA or 2 or makes some deals, then that changes too. Zadina will be in his 3rd year pro by then, so he will need to be protected, so make it 6 forwards. Larkin, Bertuzzi, Mantha, AA, Rasmussen and Zadina. Cholowski, Hronek Not sure who the goalies will be in 2021 so we're good there. Basically any player with 2 or less PRO season's does not need to be protected. (Veleno, McIssac, Hirose, Kaski and anyone else who goes pro this season.)

It just tells me that Yzerman was not on the Broberg Train, or he would've traded back to 10 and if Holland took Seider, then he just would've taken Broberg. But instead he just took Seider. Thats it, that is probably his reasoning. He wanted D, wasn't impressed with Broberg, and didn't have any other D ranked high enough to draft at 10. He didn't want to gamble and make the Vancouver trade and risk Holland taking Seider. Funny, I've seen on Twitter some so called "experts" giving The Red Wings a grade of D- or F when it comes to the draft. Relax experts, nobody drafts in accordance with you. Here's a comparison. I can image what our "grade" was after the 1989 draft. Pretend you all don't know how 1989 turned out for us and then loo at it like you're looking at the 2019 draft. Keep in mind Russians were never going to come over to the NHL, especially defecting from The Red Army. Sure, Mike Sillinger was probably the BPA at #11, considering his stats, and despite playing so many games, he never brought these stats to the NHL: Bob Bougher had some impressive stats as well for a D, but again, never really translated to the NHL and never played a single game in Detroit, and never an NHL games until 1995-96. Here are his junior stats: ...and considering Nick Lidstrom's stats were not "wham bam, thank you ma'am" nobody probably thought that he was on an outstanding pick either: ...again, The Russian's were never going to come over, so The Wings probably got laughed at when they chose Fedorov and Konstantinov. But look at this draft and tell me that it wasn't graded much higher than a D. Dallas Drake being one of thoise late round steals (too bad, not all 1000 games for the Red Wings though.) Of course, everyone in the world knows how it turned out after 20 years! In hindsight this was an A++++++++ draft. Here's to hoping that a few of our picks this year make 2019 a home run as well! I,like many of you preferred somebody else at #6. I was really hoping for Cozins since he was there, but who's to say that Seider isn't (not saying he's Lidstrom) another Lidstrom? When Lidstrom was drafted, see above, his stats didn't scream 7 Norris Trophies, 4 Stanley Cups, 11 All-Star Games, over 1500 games played, number retired....you get where I'm going. Let's just see which direction Seider is going within the next 3-4 years before everyone calls Yzerman a moron. Ya?

I am going to amend a little bit. Thinking more about it, I would love to see one big splash! Whether that be Panarin, Duchene or Lee, Dzingel. I'd like to see a small splash like a Simmonds, Johansson or Tanev. Again, on D, there isn't much, Stralman would be a nice addition plus I hope Kronwall plays to get him to 1000, its only 47 games and it would be a nice end to his career. Then his number can be retired along with #40, #13, #30 and #91. Yes, I went there! Again, I now this is beating a half dead horse, but we need to rid this team of Ericsson and or Daley. Daley has to have some kind of trade value, and Ericsson can just ride the press box as the 7th or 8th D guy if we cannot trade him or won't buyout/wave him. We have $22M in cap space with Z and Franzen LTIR. If Green goes on LTIR (which I read in a St. James article that his season could be in question) then that frees up even more space to utilize if needed AND another roster spot back there. Stralman - Hronek Cholowski - Kaski Dekeyser - Bowey Kronwall I didn't put Seider there because I think I heard something about playing one more year in DEL so he can finish high school? Maybe something like that... I was also thinking about it, if Hronek continues to develop in to a legit top guy, we really may not need to waste money on Krug or Trouba sweeps next year. Oh, don't get me wrong, it would be awesome to have either of those guys, but I am just thinking salary savings. In a couple of years, Cholowski and Hronek are going to cost us enough! I'd offer 7 years to my big splash list up top, 2-3 years on the small splash guys and 3-4 to Stralman (or similar D.) 1 year to Kronwall for 1000 games.