Nightfall

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  1. Frk vs Pulkkinen

    I have seen Frk play for the Griffins and last season was his coming out party. He helped the Griffins to their Calder Cup win and now he has made it to the NHL. His work ethic is above and beyond what the Griffins and Red Wings require. He is usually the first person to show up for practice and the last one to leave. I remember I played a charity event at Van Andel on a Saturday, and when we showed up at 2pm to play our game, Frk was already there. Talking to the trainers, that was a common thing to see him show up extra early on game days and optional days to get a good workout in before practice or a game. That is dedication right there. Anyway, he is shaping up to be a solid NHL player. He won't be a 1st line player, but he has a place in the league to play 3rd line minutes and maybe even 1st or 2nd line power play with that shot of his.
  2. NHL Opening Night Thread

    Mason getting hung out to dry in net more like it. I am watching this instead of the Pens banner raising. Toronto looks good while the Jets had an early flurry and then a big let down.
  3. I am hyped about hockey starting, and I am also hyped to see the Wings play. I already have tickets to see the Wings play in Dallas and Vegas (road trips!). So I would say 10. I am also hyped for the return of hockey in general. 10 out of 10. On the flip side, many of my friends who are Wings fans are kind of excited, but the excitement is curbed because the Wings are not the best team in the league. Lets face facts here, fans love a winner. The next few years are going to be rough on Wings fans. Many are going to leave, and thats ok. I used to be irritated with bandwagon fans, but now I understand it. Why support a team that is in the crapper if the management doesn't appear to care? I now understand why Hawks fans vanished like a fart in the wind when management was crapping on the team. The Wings fans will return.
  4. Which player(s) would you trade?

    I am going to throw something out there as food for thought. The Wings are not going to be a in a position to compete for a cup until they get some generational talent. The only way to get generational talent is to draft in the top 10 consistently. Sure, there is always a chance we could get a Dats or Z again in the later rounds, but the odds of that happening are slim to none. Anyway, knowing this, it doesn't matter how strapped we are right now. It doesn't matter how strapped we are 3 years from now. The bad contracts will be off the books by the time we get some talent and get things back on track. A better idea would be to just play the kids and spend to the cap floor from this point forward. Let the team fail and get those high draft picks now. Yes, with a new arena, this team is going to suck which means that many fans will likely not spend a lot on tickets. At the same time though, this is the best method to get those top 10 draft picks we need. We don't need to trade away any contracts right now.
  5. Off-season moves

    No terms have been announced yet. I can live with a 2 or 3 year deal. By the time we are competitive, the deal will be done.
  6. Griffins Calder Cup Playoffs Thread

    I agree with this. I do think Bert and Svechnikov would both be best suited playing top line minutes in Grand Rapids instead of bottom 6 minutes in the NHL. As for Frk, he really did very well for the Griffins, but I don't know if he is NHL material. There is a reason why the Wings put him on waivers, Carolina picked him up, and then put him back on waivers for us to grab again. We have to give him a shot, because if we don't, someone else will. I just don't know. He was a key piece to the Griffins this year though. Oh, and I want another full season for Hicketts as well in the AHL.
  7. Griffins Calder Cup Playoffs Thread

    Here is a good article on it. For those of you who aren't living in Grand Rapids or follow the Griffins, Cleary's leadership was a big reason why the Griffins did well. Bertuzzi's development was huge thanks to him as well. Yea, I get it, some Wings fans are upset with Cleary or hate him. Personally, I have no problems with him because he came to Grand Rapids and did what I expected him to do. Be a leader, work with the kids, and help bring the Calder Cup back to Grand Rapids. http://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/nhl/red-wings/2017/05/13/daniel-cleary-embraces-time-griffins-red-wings/101570054/
  8. Targets for the Wings

    Sheahan is worth less than De Haan's jock strap.
  9. Griffins Calder Cup Playoffs Thread

    Its too early to be calling Coreau a star or a bust. Goalies typically don't come into the league and light it up from day one. He had a subpar game in Game #3, but he played lights out in Game #2. Without him, the Griffins would be down 2-1 in the series instead of up 2-1. The Griffins didn't deserve to win Game #2 for the way he played, but thanks to Coreau, it happened. Anyway, I am just hoping that they win Game #4 right now. I really don't think the Griffins are going to be able to win 2 in a row at home if they drop 3 straight in Syracuse. Get it done!
  10. 2017 ECF: OTTAWA SENATORS VS. PITTSBURGH PENGUINS

    If the Preds win, I will buy a Preds Subban jersey. You heard it here first.
  11. 2017 ECF: OTTAWA SENATORS VS. PITTSBURGH PENGUINS

    Washington was the Presidents trophy winning team. Columbus ended the season on a low note and couldn't recover. The Sens were outmatched, but man did they come close to pulling it off. Overall, I wouldn't say the Pens had an easy time, but the only team out of the West I thought could have beaten them was the Ducks. Thats if Gibson played out of his mind. Agreed. Personally, I hope Holland burns this team to the ground and gives the kids a shot. If the team is going to fail, let the youth fail. That will allow them to build through the draft. After about 5 years of missing the playoffs, they will have that generational player or two unless the team as a whole overachieves. Many in the Red Wings fanbase won't take a couple losing seasons. My bet is it will take about 3 before they stop following the team and the boards become silent. After the way this team has been mismanaged, I won't blame them for leaving either.
  12. 2017 ECF: OTTAWA SENATORS VS. PITTSBURGH PENGUINS

    If it makes you feel any better, after the Wings tank the next couple years and miss the playoffs, many people on these forums will be gone. For good reason as well. Why support a team that the ownership craps all over. I used to be all uppity about bandwagon fans, now I understand it. Especially after watching teams where the ownership just craps all over the fans and intentionally tanks for years. There is no way in hell I would support a team that did that. You can bet your ass if the Wings started doing that crap, I wouldn't attend a game or watch them on TV either. At least make an attempt to compete. Its a professional league.
  13. 2017 ECF: OTTAWA SENATORS VS. PITTSBURGH PENGUINS

    There is no comparison to Crosby and Letang for sure. Hell, Crosby is the best player in the league IMHO. Agreed, its a very impressive run. I am just hoping that the Preds can find a way to make it happen. Another 8 seed making a cup finals run is pretty impressive.
  14. 2017 ECF: OTTAWA SENATORS VS. PITTSBURGH PENGUINS

    The Pens are missing Letang, and tonight they didn't have Hornqvist and they still won. All the injuries on this team and they are finding a way to win. That says a lot about the character of the Pens.
  15. 2017 ECF: OTTAWA SENATORS VS. PITTSBURGH PENGUINS

    The Pens are going to be the favorite against a scrappy Nashville team. I do agree that the Pens had the better scoring chances. The type of system that Ottawa plays is one that depends on bending but not breaking. They just broke in Game 7 against a superior team. I just hate the thought of the Pens winning another cup. All the years they tanked and picked up two generational players got them this far. Makes me wish the Wings would tank for 6 years to get a couple more generational players so they could do the same thing. The problem is that they are too proud to do that.
  16. 2017 ECF: OTTAWA SENATORS VS. PITTSBURGH PENGUINS

    The Pens have had more scoring chances, but the Sens are hanging tough. This is a instant classic for sure. Penguin fans littering the ice. What a bunch of morons.
  17. 2017 ECF: OTTAWA SENATORS VS. PITTSBURGH PENGUINS

    There are some rules which should never have been put in the books. That is one of them. Same goes for the rule about "resisting referees". Apparently, when a ref grabs you, you can't struggle to get away or swing at another player. How many times do we see players struggling to get free from the refs during a scrum? If the rules were followed to the letter, then they would be suspending players left and right for that. There are just some rules that are put in the NHL books that have good intentions but are just crappy rules. Personally, I am glad that they are not enforcing rules like that. This is hockey, and our players are tough, not pansies.
  18. 2017 ECF: OTTAWA SENATORS VS. PITTSBURGH PENGUINS

    Crosby is one of the best in the world. Its easy to hate him if he isn't playing on your team. The NHL parity has made teams so close that its hard to see a distinct advantage. To say the Pens haven't had to play anyone good is a gross understatement. There is a reason why Nashville made it to the finals and its not because they just got lucky through 3 rounds of hockey. There is also a reason why the Sens are a game from the finals and why they came back last night. The parity has made teams so close. As for game 7, the Pens have the advantage for sure, but you never know how things will go in a game 7.
  19. 2017 ECSF Washington Caps vs. Pittsburgh Pens

    Agreed. I think we can also point to other coaches who have excelled when taking over a team, and then fast forward a few years later and they are fired. I think its safe to say that a coaches message gets lost and new blood is needed to keep things going. Very very few coaches in the NHL stay at the same place for a long time. Heck the longest tenured head coach in the NHL is Quenneville and he has been on the job 9 years. After that you have Tippett with the Coyotes since 2009, and then in 3rd place is Cooper who has only been on the job since 2013. Sullivan needs a larger sample size, but longevity in the NHL coaching realm revolves around getting the most out of your players. So far, Sullivan has achieved that.
  20. 2017 ECSF Washington Caps vs. Pittsburgh Pens

    Remember when Bylsma did the same thing with the Pens and now is out of a job? Your final question is correct. Could Sullivan get more out of Washington? Don't know. What I do know is that great players make a great coach. Did the Pens talent make Bylsma a great coach back then? Probably. What about Sullivan and now? Probably.
  21. 2017 ECSF Washington Caps vs. Pittsburgh Pens

    People said the same thing about Bylsma when he took over and led the Pens to the cup. Sullivan will probably be thrown to the wolves in about 5 years.
  22. I really don't understand the love for making Steve Yzerman the GM. I have always subscribed to the thought that if we are going to replace Ken Holland, we better do it with someone who is a clear upgrade. Is Yzerman a clear upgrade? Is Jim Nill a clear upgrade? I don't believe so. They have taken their teams, with younger talent and better draft picks than the Wings and had varying levels of success. They have both made good and bad decisions, just like Holland has. IMHO, its not like Yzerman and Nill are making all the right moves for their respective teams. Neither of those teams are in the playoffs right now, and the Stars were tops in their division last year. I have no issues replacing Holland, but replace him with someone who is better.
  23. Captain Hank

    Yup, two more that were drafted by the Hawks, although they weren't top 10 draft picks.
  24. Captain Hank

    It isn't insulting to say this either. Hank is past his prime, and most clubs surround their vets with great young talent. The problem is that the Wings don't have great young talent. Teams that have been drafting in the top 10 have got some good young talent. Look at the top tier teams in the league today. Pittsburgh was a down and out team for years, and then they draft Crosby and Malkin. Chicago gets Kane and Towes. These elite stars help carry the team. The Wings don't have anyone like this.
  25. What to do about Vanek

    Its hard to tell what Holland will do. We have never been 10+ points out at the deadline before so we really can't say if he would sell or not. As for what I think, I say we trade him at the deadline. Its safe to say that we are not a cup contending team. If our goal is to just make the playoffs, then keep him. If our goal is to win another cup, then that will take an overhaul.