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The Zetterberg, basically.

It's definitely not a perfect apples-to-apples comparison. I guess I'm speaking more to the "You have to have your ass handed to you before you can win it all" angle.

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Leadership qualities and humanitarian contributions.

Well said.

The year is 2041. Jimmy Howard is still the Red Wings' starting goalie.

Yep. This s*** is so up-in-the-air right now and it will probably stay that way until the names are called on draft day. In all honesty, I wouldn't be surprised to see Podkolzin available at 6.

I think I made the comparison to the 1995-96 Wings a few weeks ago. I vaguely remember someone saying this Tampa team isn't quite there yet (not gritty enough, hasn't been shoved face-first into the mud) and I noted that that was basically the '96 Wings. Wouldn't surprise me at all if they go all the way next season and Tampa fans look back on this series as something that had to happen.

This is the future that Yzermaniacs want.

For me, it's the way the Pens went out. I had the Pens winning in six games, but I did feel like the series was up for grabs. I figured the Pens would at least take a couple of games. I figured Crosby and Malkin would be bigger factors. There's also the whole "Back in October, we all knew this Isles team was going to sweep the Penguins in the first round" component.

"You have to get in. Once you're in, anything can happen." - Sir Kenneth Holland I want to see the Wings piss all over some team's premature parade in next year's playoffs. We came oh-so-close in 2013 and 2015. This time, we won't have Babcock holding us back. This time, we get it done.

Four points for Flip in this series! All assists, but still!

It is done.

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lmao lambert

Fire Holland

https://www.nhl.com/redwings/news/detroit-agrees-to-terms-with-filip-larsson-on-entry-level-deal/c-306774584

TBH, I don't see Holland having much interest in a young player who wants to be a Ranger. I get the impression the Wings are very serious about wanting players who want to be in Detroit. Giving Fox minutes that could be given to other young-and-developing defensemen in the system and then watching him leave in free agency would suck. Maybe it's worth it if we're really high on him and/or we feel he'd help us get to the playoffs next season. *shrug* The whole grew-up-a-Rangers-fan thing pretty much kills my interest in him and I'm guessing it's one of the reasons why no one in the rumormongering industry is linking him to the Wings.

Not necessarily wrong tho. I remain unconvinced that the Lightning under Holland would look much different than the Lightning under Yzerman. Give Brand New Lightning GM Ken Holland a Stamkos and a Hedman as building blocks and I think he builds you a solid perennial contender.

Gotta assume that's the standard unrealistic opening ask, not what they actually expect to get. Right? And it seems like they really don't have much leverage, so 3rd(+) might actually be enough.

Did some digging. This seems to hit on the major points: https://www.prohockeyrumors.com/2019/04/latest-on-a-potential-adam-fox-trade.html So I guess I was wrong. Maybe a 2nd + Svechnikov would actually be an overpayment.

This is definitely their last year as Red Wings. If we didn't know it before, that piece I linked to pretty muched confirmed it. Kronwall's got one year left or zero years left. DeKeyser isn't a problem if he can consistently play the way he played late in the season. Even if he can't, shedding other old guy contracts should take some heat off of him. Green could assume Kronwall's leadership role.

Was funny to see Holland call them "old defensemen." Straight-up, no qualifiers.

Yeah, what 91 said. Wings shouldn't be satisfied, shouldn't assume things will fall perfectly into place -- but the future looks brighter than it has in a long time. I believe so. Might've been different circumstances, can't remember. Weren't there rumors about Vesey wanting to be a Ranger? And did Buffalo have the luxury of time that Carolina seems to have with Fox? Honest questions, cuz I honestly don't know.