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Let me save someone the trouble: "It's never too late for Holland to waive them for nothing or trade them for some washed up veteran." According to rotowire: Halak is starting tonight Islanders currently sit third in the Metro with the same number of points as us. Regulation win please and thank you.

Datsyuk needs the absolute best players paired with him to get him going. Helm isn't chopped liver, but he's not our best.

When Woods or any other commentator says, "Howard wishes he had that one back." He's talking about *that* goal. Mrazek has "wanted a few back" too. Were they "Jimmy goals" or were they "Petr goals"? Either way giving up a goal you want back and having a commentator - television, radio, print, interwebz, telegraph operator, semaphore flag waver, etc. say so, isn't the whole sixty minutes wrapped up into a nice package. It's one goal. It's a commentary on one goal. LGW s***ting on Jimmy and saying so in the GDT because of one bad goal is not an indictment of his overall play either. It's par for the course. Also, if you know that Jimmy is starting... and we're going to lose...so you don't watch... Don't think we're going to take your non-professional commentary seriously. You didn't watch the game. So you don't know. Yawn. But whatever... Opinions are like something something mumble mumble ramble rant...

Yes, most of us were and it was... I just hope the way that we feel when Jimmy gets in the net is not how he feels when he gets in the net. I hate over analyzing every single rush, shot, and goal that comes his way, but here I am doing it. We can speculate all we like about him losing his way, how he's never going to get it back and what his behaviour and attitude are, but for the team's sake, I hope he can pull it together for the remainder of the season. When called upon, will get in the net and play his heart and guts out to the best of his ability. Even when the world will watch and over analyze every single play; I believe he will remain the consummate professional that he is and has been throughout his time here. I don't believe that Jimmy Howard is one to "sulk" about his situation. It is what it is. ...and when the season is over, I hope Howard tells Ken Holland that he would not be upset about being traded and waives or opens up his NTC.

Both Jarnkrok and Janmark were traded not waived. Neither saw time with the Wings. Be happy, at least Jensen's getting a look before he's dealt or waived.

I actually think Holland was right in keeping Kindl at that point in time. Did he refuse to waive him? Yes. ..but wasn't that the plan all along? See if you can make a worthwhile trade for him before just tossing him aside? Later in the year you're looking at the prospect of having a new coach in the coming season; is it better to see if a player like Kindl will pick up his play under that new coach or to waive him without giving him the chance? See if he's got more value in a trade then? ...and It's not at the expense of your younger players if the plan is to let them over-ripen in the AHL. He's kinda been doing it for years, so I don't see why we're at all surprised when it happens. (Nyquist, Tatar, Pulks, Jurcs, the list goes on and on) I'm not saying it's right or that I agree with it, but there are reasons behind it. It's not Holland being stubborn or not doing anything or really refusing. It's call doing his job in the manner that he sees fit. Just because we don't happen to like it doesn't mean that it doesn't make sense to the General Manager and his plan. You're surely welcome to call him out on it, but it's not making and breaking the team. No GM has any control over being able to get the guys you want to clear waivers to clear and the guys you want to get picked up to get picked up. Case in point: Chicago and Bryan Bickell (not claimed) Viktor Tikhonov (claimed)

Exactly. Real talk here: Has Andersson not been waived before? Why do I feel like this is not the first time that Andersson has passed through waivers? Either way, I feel like neither Kindl nor Andersson passing through waivers should be that surprising, nor is it an indictment of poor roster management, a broken team, or overly detrimental to our ability to make the playoffs.

If were talking backup for Mrazek. Howard to Winnipeg. Pavelec comes back. Throw in Ladd and Buf for giggles. I'm of the mindset to let Patterson, Coreau develop a little more... I'd rather a veteran backup Petr for a while. You know, someone that can play an odd back to back game here and there and play lights out. Sorry, Howie... I'm falling off the wagon.

I don't see how another team not wanting to claim some of our players means that we're hindering our younger players. I'm unsure I see the correlation.

Ditto. Saddled up with the old DVR viewing after 10:30pm. LGW!! Wings: 3 Ducks: 1 Jimmy lets in one early then slams the door shut, much to the shagrin of Jimmy Howard Haters everywhere. Pavs, Tats, and DK with goals.

Dudez... Uncharted - Sara Bareilles Territories - RUSH

So... IN THE PLAYOFFS? How'd we even make it there with Smitty in the lineup? Gee. I don't want to belabor this point. He makes mistakes. So does every defenseman in the league before, after, and including TPH - Niklas Lidstrom. Saying that Smith alone is going to keep us from the playoffs is hyperbole to the Nth degree. We know Smith ain't that bad if kip is here to defend the guy!

...because Kindl, a late bloomer, who never blossomed and made serious blunders throughout his time with the big club, was a major obstacle every year for the past however many he played during our current playoff streak? The guy has made some mistakes and may continue to do so, but he's been improving, and playing with more confidence, and he's certainly not going to break the team in half with a few bonehead errors.

People shat on MDZ in a similar manner and now he's gobbling up 20 minutes a night for Philly. His career had been declared dead and look at that zombie go. In a similar fashion, Smitty gets s*** on, probably rightfully so, but like you said BoS he's not half as bad as people make him out to be. He's under the microscope because so many people think that XO or Sproul or Jensen are going to make less mistakes. Which to date, as far as I'm concerned, is an unknown.

I'd be okay with that. Either way -- with Miller and/or Helm -- you're looking at some man games lost due to injury. ...so jettison Andersson and give CALLAHAN a shot.

I wouldn't mind keeping Helm, but I really don't want to pay what I think we're going to have to pay to keep Helm. I do like his versatility, but I don't think he's worth much more than what he's currently being paid and no offense to the guy, but he's a third and fourth line guy. Not top 6.

Edit: Posted too quickly / Spelling I want Callahan and Athanasiou on the club next year. Probably rotating in on the fourth. No Miller. No Helm. No Andersson. If we're resigning any of them it's Miller, but honestly I think the injuries are starting to pile up. Helm is trade bait for the deadline.

unfortunately, he may not even realize that he's regretting it. #headinjuriesaintnojoke

Okay. So many of you may not view this as a sport, but rather "sports entertainment" or "fighting with a predetermined outcome" or maybe just can't see past the "it's fake!!" ...but if anyone wants to chat about wrasslin' lets do it here. First order of business: WWE. Wrestlemania is fast approaching. Lots of guys are injured. Fantasy Book your card knowing that Cesaro, John Cena, Randy Orton, Tyson Kidd, Seth Rollins, Sting, Nikki Bella, & Paige are on the shelf. Daniel Bryan still has not been cleared. Will WWE give him the go ahead? The Rock, while attending, has not announced that he will be wrestling. Should he be? Will Roman Reigns be the champ going in to Wrestlemania? Who from NXT gets bumped up for their first Wrestlemania experience?

http://www.thehockeynews.com/blog/red-wings-lose-kronwall-for-2-4-weeks-miller-for-4-6-months-to-knee-injuries/

I do like those forward lines... now the back end on the other hand... *cringe* Makes me a wee bit nervous. Lets see how this goes.

Roman Reigns is the real deal bruthurrrr. PS: I started a wrasslin' thread in the Other Sports forum. Join me. I'm lonely.

Kudos Smite. I thought all the McGrattan threads had been shuttered... I really wanted to start a new thread titled "God Emperor Brian McGrattan Gets Knocked the EFF Out" but thought otherwise. To go beyond this scary incident: There have some gnarly deeds in the world of hockey over the last week or so... Linesman punching kid. Trainer comes out and spears linesman. Gudbranson fights Hendricks to avenge Ekblad hit. Arizona and the Blues (?) fight after the final buzzer. I know we've discussed fighting and the NHL ad naseum around these parts, but instead of discussing it in the Ericsson thread... how about here?

I like GoT. I will probably not see Deadpool in the theatre. Also, BoS, NIN rules!! Also: Man in the High Castle on Amazon is incredible. Alternate History: The Axis powers win WWII. Nazi Germany occupies the East Coast. Japan the Pacific States. DMZ in the middle.

Merge threads like a madman!!