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What the hell are you talking about? He had one point less than Crosby in the postseason last year. How is that choking? And just as a side note, between this years' Finals and last, Mr. Playoff Choker is outscoring Crosby and has a better +/-. It seems Crosby can't produce against the Wings without playing alongside Hossa. I suppose the same could be said about Hossa, but then again, the Wings aren't planning on paying him 8.7M/year and making him captain.

I imagine that the Wings will have to do this about 7-8 years from now to balance the amount of money that the organization will have invested in 38 year old Zetterberg, Franzen, and possibly Hossa

Yes, if you are still referring to their current contract. The same caphit applies each year that a given contract is active, so 6.1 the first year of the contract all the way to the last year of the contract which will also be a 6.1 caphit, regardless of whether that player is actually getting paid 1M for that year. I imagine Holland will be retiring shortly before then.

I'm not quite sure what you even said there, so the second one. Go into debt to later make lots of money, or a constant income that's not as large

I was having a terrible day, then it suddenly turned around. Right now I'm reserving judgment. The person below me adds the letter E when not necessary.

Where did you get 77pts and a +27 for Homer, while missing 52 games nonetheless? Are you talking about a period greater than a year?

Its amazing what corporate seating does to attendance

Tokyo Police Club- tessellate

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No I've tried occasionally but I can't gain muscle to save my life. I lead an overactive lifestyle that burns too much energy. The person below me needs to take a shower.

i don't see how Iginla couldn't get it.

Man. We just got served. That was probably one of the funniest ones I've read.

I'm not looking at is as straight up trade Hudler for X picks. I'm looking at the Wings as the deepest team in the league with proven NHL caliber players who have peaked in the AHL. These players can replace the likes of Hudler and Sammy much easier than replacing a Hossa, who is the type of player that only comes around once in a great while, and is especially appealing because he plays into our defensive style so well (unlike many other league superstars). Furthermore, letting Hudler walk for draft picks would (with a bit of drafting luck/skill) essentially replace the AHL stars that are replacing Hudler, and give the Wings organization one more piece to the future puzzle to work with, thus increasing our odds of staying competitive eight years from now. Its an appealing cycle: Current NHL star replaced by Current AHL star replaced by draft pick acquired from losing current NHL star (again, with luck/skill in the drafting dept). You don't get that with Sammy or Lilja or any other trade bait right now.

The title of this thread is quite misleading. The author of the article suggested a possible long term deal at a hypothetical 4 million. Holland just said that they were planning on talking. Having said that, I still would gladly take Hossa on this team if Holland can reduce the roster damage as much as possible. I have faith that he can produce in the playoffs and I would rather take the gamble that he'll be producing for the Wings instead of against them.

I like our defensive core how it is.

Sorry, my post was a bit ambiguous. I was referring to his status as a RFA, and if he leaves, the Wings will get at least a draft pick in return.

He will bring more to the Wings in his leave than any other member of the team.

I'm still blaming Hudler for the second goal.

Sometimes I loved this guy, other times I absolutely hated him.

I don't know if I necessarily agree with reserving 6+ million into a goaltender. Don't get me wrong, I definitely understand the value that a goalie has for a team, however I think the money is better invested in a stellar defensive/forward lineup that can contribute both defensively and offensively, with a solid, but not best-in-the-business goalie for relatively cheap.

also: you can't spell Wings without Win, and you can't spell Penguins without Peng... which is a typo for lose.

Even Penguins bleed red

As a self sustained college student I unfortunately cannot afford this, but yes, all the time. the person below me wants to give loan me 50 grand, and if not, the person below him/her will scold the person below me for being so selfish. It's not that much

Facts schmacts. We have history on our side!

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