Forsberg for Schneider and Lilja

[SwedeLundin77 460]

We wouldn't trade 2 solid d-men (one offensive d-man espcially) for Forsberg. There would be a forward involved, most likely a Lang or a Datsyuk type player + say Lilja. We are loaded up front, and I don't see the organization screwing a kid out of his position since Filppula, Hudler, and Kopecky are all playing solid for us right now. So we would need to trade a center for a center.

This trade isn't going to happen anyway, we would find a more affordable winger before getting Forsberg, and that makes the most sense anyway, we need a winger, not a center.

[bellarina 1]

2 things

DON'T TRADE SCHNEIDER

DON"T GET AN AVS HERO IN MOTOWN.

[wingslogo19 281]

How about we shouldn't be trading Schneider for a hated player

[Salviaman 104]

We wouldn't trade 2 solid d-men (one offensive d-man espcially) for Forsberg. There would be a forward involved, most likely a Lang or a Datsyuk type player + say Lilja. We are loaded up front, and I don't see the organization screwing a kid out of his position since Filppula, Hudler, and Kopecky are all playing solid for us right now. So we would need to trade a center for a center.

This trade isn't going to happen anyway, we would find a more affordable winger before getting Forsberg, and that makes the most sense anyway, we need a winger, not a center.

Since when is Lilja a "solid d-man"? lol

Anyways I can not picture or even think about Forsberg becoming a Wing. It would be nice, but not gonna happen with Holland as our GM.

[SwedeLundin77 460]

Since when is Lilja a "solid d-man"? lol

Anyways I can not picture or even think about Forsberg becoming a Wing. It would be nice, but not gonna happen with Holland as our GM.

2005-06 Detroit NHL 82 games played, 2 goals, 13 assists, 15 points, +18, 98 pim, 78 shots, 2.56 shooting %

I think last season he proved he was solid, playing every game, posting points, a strong +/-.... I by no means promote Lilja or really care if he is here or not because we already have a lot of depth on defense here in Detroit, but he gets entirely too much s*** around here, mostly because he is not as fast as other defensemen, but the guy posts solid numbers and he is a penalty killer for a reason, he's good at playing a defensive style game.

Example: Lilja is slow and doesn't hit as much as he should, therefore he is weak on clearing the defender and chasing the puck back in the defensive zone, but a lot of times he is in position so that he doesn't have to chase down the puck. There is a reason why Babcock, Holland, and the rest of the coaching staff feel he is good on the PK, and they are the experts, not us. They have been in the business of hockey at higher levels for a long time, we have been in the business of watching hockey or playing recreationally for a short or long time. I do believe that since Lebda has come in that they are slowly beginning to realize that we could more effectively use Lebda instead of Lilja, but that doesn't mean that Lilja sucks, it just means that Lebda's speed for this team is more effective. I'm sure there are teams out there that are looking for a stay at home defender, and Lilja is on their lists I'm sure, especially since he only makes a mil. The fact remains, that we are fans, we are hyper-critical of players, so we tend to over-criticize to a point of disrespect, which is completely unnecessary.

Once again, let me reitterate that I am by no means a Lilja fan, I just choose to be more realistic wth my views on players, and not bash.

[T.OWingsFan 7]

With Chelios gone soon, even though Schneids is old too, he still has a couple more seasons left, so I would not trade him for Forsberg.

I thought it was common knowledge that Forsberg has been with one foot back home to Sweden for a while now. And not like Lidstrom who reached the point of no return when his kids got to school. Forsberg has 1 mybe 2 seasons left and he is out.

Lilja+Lang/Wiliams to Philly and we have a deal, but not Schneids.

[SwedeLundin77 460]

This trade was obviously bunk. Forsberg has been having problems with his surgically repaired right ankle... the thing about that is, he has said that if he can't get it to the point where his foot feels comfortable in his skate boot, then he may not re-sign in Philly next season and may not re-sign AT all. Therefore this topic is for now concluded.

The End.

[Wingsfan31 0]

IF he were healthy, could stay healthy and would not consider going back to Sweden, I'd do it in a heartbeat. I like Schnieds and I think we would certainly miss his shot from the point but Forsberg, when healthy, it one of the most dominant forces in the league. The one thing this team lacks is a consistent offensive punch, something he would definitely bring. With Kronwall healthy, Lebda's emergence and having Markov on the team now, I think the Wings could buffer Schneider's loss some.

As for the "hated Avs" argument, how many people hated Chris Chelios before he became a Wing? Long before the Avs even existed, he was a thorn in the Wings' side, trading devastating hits with Vladdy and generally making life miserable for the Wings' forwards. It seems like all was forgotten after that deal. I think people's memories would shorten significantly if Forsberg were to become as Red Wing as well.