Wings_Fan_in_KC 3 Report post Posted May 10, 2007 (edited) BIGGER/STRONGER/FASTER again? Jesus H. I'm tired of hearing that bulls***. The WIngs torched the Sharks using their SPEED. Sharks couldn't keep up and as for bigger/stronger you must be talking about ANA's goalie tandems' collective asses. Best D in the league? After Pronger, Neidermayer and maybe Beauchimin who's left? Exactly. Detroit's D on the other hand has shut effectively down both the Flamers and Charks top lines. Deeper than Detroit in FWD lines? Bulls***....the WIngs ROLL FOUR consistently and all of them are fully capable of damaging the opposition. Anaheim has been a Two Line Pony this season and Lidstrom and Cheli play a LOT of minutes. Let it play out and we'll see. Edited May 10, 2007 by Wings_Fan_in_KC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AwsumDucks Report post Posted May 10, 2007 So you didn't watch the series then? You've got to be kidding if you honestly think the Sharks were pathetic and the Wings were not impressive in the series. First off despite the Sharks not bringing their "A" game they were still a very tough team to play. They are no where near pathetic. As for the Wings, coming back from being down on the scoreboard in three games to win is not impressive? Being down 2-0 and tying/winning a game with seconds left or OT isn't impressive? Hasek playing fantastic isn't impressive? The 'small-soft' Wings shutting down the toughest team in the league..still not impressive? Please know what the hell you're talking about, or better yet ask the Sharks fans about that series before you come on here and make yourself look foolish with such comments. Sharks fans were embarassed and even disgusted by their team's performance against the Wings. In fact the Sharks practically handed the series to Detroit on a silver platter. It was a shameful and unispired perforamnce and the Wings looked almost as listless as the Sharks in the first 3 games. The Sharks/Wings series should have been much more compelling than it was. As for Wings beating the toughest team (i.e. Sharks) in the NHL. Where do you get that idea? If you want to see tough...hang on it's coming in this next series...speed, tenacity, power and hard hitting = Ducks team that will wear the Wings down in 5. And claiming that the Ducks don't have depth? They had six 20+ goal scorers and all 4 lines are quality lines including one of the best checking/shutdown lines in the league. Speedwise...it's no contest and the Ducks have 3 of the best 4 defenseman in the league (the 4th is Lidstrom). Goaltending...I'll take Giguere any day over Hasek who is too unorthodx for my tastes and prone to gaffes. Try to enjoy the series because if you are a Wings fan...it will definitely be a bumpy ride! Go Ducks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HockeyCrazy3033 168 Report post Posted May 10, 2007 (edited) Sharks fans were embarassed and even disgusted by their team's performance against the Wings. In fact the Sharks practically handed the series to Detroit on a silver platter. It was a shameful and unispired perforamnce and the Wings looked almost as listless as the Sharks in the first 3 games. The Sharks/Wings series should have been much more compelling than it was. As for Wings beating the toughest team (i.e. Sharks) in the NHL. Where do you get that idea? If you want to see tough...hang on it's coming in this next series...speed, tenacity, power and hard hitting = Ducks team that will wear the Wings down in 5. And claiming that the Ducks don't have depth? They had six 20+ goal scorers and all 4 lines are quality lines including one of the best checking/shutdown lines in the league. Speedwise...it's no contest and the Ducks have 3 of the best 4 defenseman in the league (the 4th is Lidstrom). Goaltending...I'll take Giguere any day over Hasek who is too unorthodx for my tastes and prone to gaffes. Try to enjoy the series because if you are a Wings fan...it will definitely be a bumpy ride! Go Ducks! How in the hell did they hand the series to the Wings? I didn't know that NOT giving up, playing hard in every shift, and taking it to the Sharks, and shutting down their top lines means that the Wings were listless and were given the wins. You aren't give wins, you earn them. The Sharks not knowing how to keep a lead doesn't mean the Wings didn't earn it, or were given the series. They worked their asses off, and outplayed the Sharks in the majority of the series. They absolutely deserved to win this series, and their play throughout it showed it. Please tell me where I stated the Ducks have no depth? You just brought that up out of nowhere, genius. Keep up with the cocky, arrogant attitude. It makes you look beyond ignorant and takes away from your already foolish posts, but hey all the more power to you. Edited May 10, 2007 by HockeyCrazy3033 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted May 10, 2007 (edited) Sharks fans were embarassed and even disgusted by their team's performance against the Wings. In fact the Sharks practically handed the series to Detroit on a silver platter. It was a shameful and unispired perforamnce and the Wings looked almost as listless as the Sharks in the first 3 games. The Sharks/Wings series should have been much more compelling than it was. As for Wings beating the toughest team (i.e. Sharks) in the NHL. Where do you get that idea? If you want to see tough...hang on it's coming in this next series...speed, tenacity, power and hard hitting = Ducks team that will wear the Wings down in 5. And claiming that the Ducks don't have depth? They had six 20+ goal scorers and all 4 lines are quality lines including one of the best checking/shutdown lines in the league. Speedwise...it's no contest and the Ducks have 3 of the best 4 defenseman in the league (the 4th is Lidstrom). Goaltending...I'll take Giguere any day over Hasek who is too unorthodx for my tastes and prone to gaffes. Try to enjoy the series because if you are a Wings fan...it will definitely be a bumpy ride! Go Ducks! :rotflmao: Thank you for that! Funniest of all Ducks fans comments to date. Edited May 10, 2007 by Never Forget Mac #25 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt 1,049 Report post Posted May 10, 2007 At first I thought you were just, well, dumb... But no one is that dumb... ... So I guess we'll have to chalk you up to a regular, run-of-the-mill troll. And not even a *good* one, at that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duckette 0 Report post Posted May 10, 2007 Wow. I seriously hope you aren't calling Beauchemin better than Lidstrom. I love the guy, but Lidstrom is phenomonal. I took will take Giguere, but that's cuz he's my favorite. After Niedermayer, Pronger and Beauchemin? O'Donnel isn't bad and neither is Huskins And we aren't like the Sharks. Our 4th line right now may have had 3 goals between the three of them all regular season Two different teams, trust me. Please, do not use these rude and over-zealous Duck fans as your example. I assure you, 90% of us are nothing like this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hillbillywingsfan 794 Report post Posted May 10, 2007 Wow. I seriously hope you aren't calling Beauchemin better than Lidstrom. I love the guy, but Lidstrom is phenomonal. I took will take Giguere, but that's cuz he's my favorite. After Niedermayer, Pronger and Beauchemin? O'Donnel isn't bad and neither is Huskins And we aren't like the Sharks. Our 4th line right now may have had 3 goals between the three of them all regular season Two different teams, trust me. Please, do not use these rude and over-zealous Duck fans as your example. I assure you, 90% of us are nothing like this. wow im so glad we finally have a good HOCKEY fan from the ducks fan base that talks like hes an adult and not a 5th grader. im glad you are here and please stick around because we need you here to offset all the retarted posts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted May 10, 2007 Sidenote: Perhaps AwsumDucks is younger than 5th grade. I noticed atleast 10 minutes ago that he/she started typing a response, and it still hasn't been posted yet. Either we're in for a novel or he/she hasn't taken typing lessons yet. Sidenote: He/she left the thread without posting. Nevermind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duckette 0 Report post Posted May 10, 2007 wow im so glad we finally have a good HOCKEY fan from the ducks fan base that talks like hes an adult and not a 5th grader. im glad you are here and please stick around because we need you here to offset all the retarted posts Well, I'm an 11th grade female, is that still ok? I'm here for damage control and made a thread on my home Ducks site telling people who come over here to grow up. I hope they listen, and I apologize for their behavior Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted May 10, 2007 Well, I'm an 11th grade female, is that still ok? I'm here for damage control and made a thread on my home Ducks site telling people who come over here to grow up. I hope they listen, and I apologize for their behavior No worries, we're used to it. We gotten these types of trolls from the Flames and the Sharks. I welcome other teams fans, as I enjoy their unique perspective, but unfortunately there's always going to be the trolls that come around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asia13 0 Report post Posted May 10, 2007 I don't think this was mentioned yet and I don't feel like looking up 11 pages so here's my 2 cents. As good as Pronger and Niedermayer may be, the Ducks rely too heavily on them. In other words, as ironic as it sounds, the Ducks bright spot could potentially be their weak spot. Think about it, Pronger plays 31:13 while Niedermayer plays 29:45. If we can tire those 2 players out like we did against SJ and Calgary, it could be their downfall, achilles heel..whatever you want to call it. Consistently hitting them in every corner and forechecking the Ducks defence WILL wear them down. Bank on it. PS: GOO WINGS! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zion 93 Report post Posted May 10, 2007 Sean O'Donnell fan here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duckette 0 Report post Posted May 10, 2007 No worries, we're used to it. We gotten these types of trolls from the Flames and the Sharks. I welcome other teams fans, as I enjoy their unique perspective, but unfortunately there's always going to be the trolls that come around. Well, I am glad! And I look forward to this series. It should be a great one I don't think this was mentioned yet and I don't feel like looking up 11 pages so here's my 2 cents. As good as Pronger and Niedermayer may be, the Ducks rely too heavily on them. In other words, as ironic as it sounds, the Ducks bright spot could potentially be their weak spot. Think about it, Pronger plays 31:13 while Niedermayer plays 29:45. If we can tire those 2 players out like we did against SJ and Calgary, it could be their downfall, achilles heel..whatever you want to call it. Consistently hitting them in every corner and forechecking the Ducks defence WILL wear them down. Bank on it. PS: GOO WINGS! If your plan is to tire out Scott Niedermayer, then all I can do is wish you luck with that one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted May 10, 2007 Well, I'm an 11th grade female, is that still ok? I'm here for damage control and made a thread on my home Ducks site telling people who come over here to grow up. I hope they listen, and I apologize for their behavior Amen. To be honest, the Ducks fans here are just making all Wings fans think that the entire Ducks fan base is clueless, which is definitely within the realm of possibility. I gotta give it to the Sharks fans. Outside of samadelphia, there were some pretty classy Sharks fans on here. Maybe that simply because they were mature and knowledgeable which hasnt been the case so far with the Ducks fans. Heres to Duckette getting some classy Ducks fans over here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filppula41 0 Report post Posted May 10, 2007 Wow. I seriously hope you aren't calling Beauchemin better than Lidstrom. I love the guy, but Lidstrom is phenomonal. I took will take Giguere, but that's cuz he's my favorite. After Niedermayer, Pronger and Beauchemin? O'Donnel isn't bad and neither is Huskins And we aren't like the Sharks. Our 4th line right now may have had 3 goals between the three of them all regular season Two different teams, trust me. Please, do not use these rude and over-zealous Duck fans as your example. I assure you, 90% of us are nothing like this. It's why I am having a blast talk to those guys on disney.com. It's nice to meeting a cool duck fan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duckette 0 Report post Posted May 10, 2007 It's why I am having a blast talk to those guys on disney.com. It's nice to meeting a cool duck fan. I don't take part in disney.com or the official message board. No thank you.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RainingBlood 8 Report post Posted May 10, 2007 Wings in 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asia13 0 Report post Posted May 10, 2007 Well, I am glad! And I look forward to this series. It should be a great one If your plan is to tire out Scott Niedermayer, then all I can do is wish you luck with that one. How so? I mean, not to take anything from Niedermayer but he could just as easily wear out as Pronger could. The Wings wore out SJ players like Guerin, Marleau and to an extent, Thornton and Michalek. Guerin, Marleau and Michalek are all fast players that were worn down eventually against Detroit and that cost them (too lazy to get back on play, lazy back checking, etc). On another note, all 4 of the players I mentioned are bigger and stronger than Niedermayer. Players like Cleary, Franzen, Bertuzzi, Maltby are going to and WILLING to finish their checks on Pronger and Niedermayer. So you can expect that to occur as the series progresses. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filppula41 0 Report post Posted May 10, 2007 I don't take part in disney.com or the official message board. No thank you.... Thats good. I swear I have talked to some of the dumbest people there. Your a civil ducks fan who actually wants to talk hockey instead of calling people fags and homos. I applaud you for that. Anyways I still say Wings in 7 and good luck to your team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duckette 0 Report post Posted May 10, 2007 How so? I mean, not to take anything from Niedermayer but he could just as easily wear out as Pronger could. The Wings wore out SJ players like Guerin, Marleau and to an extent, Thornton and Michalek. Guerin, Marleau and Michalek are all fast players that were worn down eventually against Detroit and that cost them (too lazy to get back on play, lazy back checking, etc). On another note, all 4 of the players I mentioned are bigger and stronger than Niedermayer. Players like Cleary, Franzen, Bertuzzi, Maltby are going to and WILLING to finish their checks on Pronger and Niedermayer. So you can expect that to occur as the series progresses. Niedermayer is a freak of nature. He only needs about 30 seconds to recouperate and get back out there. Even Lidstrom has said so. People finish checks on him all the time. I'm not saying he never gets worn down, but it wasn't a problem against a much tougher Calgary team last season or during the regular season. I guess we'll just have to wait and see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings_Fan_in_KC 3 Report post Posted May 10, 2007 (edited) Sharks fans were embarassed and even disgusted by their team's performance against the Wings. In fact the Sharks practically handed the series to Detroit on a silver platter. It was a shameful and unispired perforamnce and the Wings looked almost as listless as the Sharks in the first 3 games. The Sharks/Wings series should have been much more compelling than it was. As for Wings beating the toughest team (i.e. Sharks) in the NHL. Where do you get that idea? If you want to see tough...hang on it's coming in this next series...speed, tenacity, power and hard hitting = Ducks team that will wear the Wings down in 5. And claiming that the Ducks don't have depth? They had six 20+ goal scorers and all 4 lines are quality lines including one of the best checking/shutdown lines in the league. Speedwise...it's no contest and the Ducks have 3 of the best 4 defenseman in the league (the 4th is Lidstrom). Goaltending...I'll take Giguere any day over Hasek who is too unorthodx for my tastes and prone to gaffes. Try to enjoy the series because if you are a Wings fan...it will definitely be a bumpy ride! Go Ducks! Hahahahahahaaaaaa! Yeah, that's what the BIGGER/STRONGER/FASTER Flames and Sharks said. Wrong again. Lidstrom is the 4th best DMan in the NHL behind the three Ducks you mention? That's not even worth a response other than to encourage you to seek professional help and step away from the crack pipe. It's for your own good. The Ducks don;t have 4 solid lines, period. Anaheim lacks depth up front. Their first and second lines are strong, but there is a big drop off after that. Your opinion regarding goalies is just that. Seems to me that Nabby and Kipper were the ones who gave up series changing goals due to making bad plays or gaffes. Dom's groin might be held together with tape and bubble gum but he's been fine ever since he got off the 12 inch pads that he tried to use at the Olympics. SEVEN games minimum. Wings squeak it out. Edited May 10, 2007 by Wings_Fan_in_KC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ducksfanforlife 0 Report post Posted May 10, 2007 Typical Southern California sports fans. Don't go too hard on them Wings fans, most of them don't know any better. Watch your mouth, duffer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings_Fan_in_KC 3 Report post Posted May 10, 2007 Watch your mouth, duffer. OMG! You're SOOO tough on an internet sports board. Friggin jagoff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ducksfanforlife 0 Report post Posted May 10, 2007 The Ducks have a huge strength in that they have Pronger and Niedermayer. The problem is that they don't have much else. Yes, Anaheim can limit scoring chances on Giguere, who while positionally sound is not terribly agile. But that strategy only worked for a limited tme for San Jose before Detroit broke it. In fact, Playing San Jose might have been the best possible preparation for Detroit heading into the next series--as has been said many times, Anaheim and San Jose have very similar games. Detroit will already be used to the west coast road games. Detroit has face the two teams most similar to Anaheim in style and skill level, and has been the better team for the majority of the two series. Anaheim, on the other hand, has faced the two weakest teams in the playoffs, teams that bear little resemblance to their next opponent in skill level or style. Detroit will take down Anaheim in six games, for the same reason Detroit has been taken down many times recently--Anaheim's lack of adversity, and therefore, the lack of knowledge how to deal with it, will put them in an early hole they won't recover from. Yep I'm pretty sure Selanne, Niedermayer, Pronger, O'Donnell, Marchant, May, Rob Niedermayer, McDonald, Penner....yep none of those guys have dealt with adversity. OMG! You're SOOO tough on an internet sports board. Friggin jagoff. Why you getting at me like that? you think you guys who are bitching to these other ducks fans who are making weird predictions aren't trying to be sooooo tough.....I come in here dissing a sharks fan who you guys just beat and you get on top of me....i ain't comin here to talk s*** and troll like some other people round here. Hahahahahahaaaaaa! Yeah, that's what the BIGGER/STRONGER/FASTER Flames and Sharks said. Wrong again. Lidstrom is the 4th best DMan in the NHL behind the three Ducks you mention? That's not even worth a response other than to encourage you to seek professional help and step away from the crack pipe. It's for your own good. The Ducks don;t have 4 solid lines, period. Anaheim lacks depth up front. Their first and second lines are strong, but there is a big drop off after that. Your opinion regarding goalies is just that. Seems to me that Nabby and Kipper were the ones who gave up series changing goals due to making bad plays or gaffes. Dom's groin might be held together with tape and bubble gum but he's been fine ever since he got off the 12 inch pads that he tried to use at the Olympics. SEVEN games minimum. Wings squeak it out. Agree with most you said except for the dropoff after 2 lines....it happens after three since we have the best shutdown line in the league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wild Wing 0 Report post Posted May 10, 2007 ^I'm definitely not trying to call you out or anything, but I consider myself a fairly "new" hockey fan (in terms of years watched and understood), and Detroit has an AMAZING shutdown line. You need to be mindful that San Jose has a more high-octane defense than we do, and Detroit limited them to around twenty shots for an entire game! We took sixty or so shots on Vancouver, and we must acknowledge Detroit's nasty defense. I hope Carlyle and his team have a good plan for this, otherwise I'm calling for Bombay and Goldberg. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites