CUJO#31 0 Report post Posted May 16, 2007 (edited) Good Read, click here! The hit on Tomas Holmstrom in Game 3 of the Western Conference final was vicious because it was predicable. It's interesting to note that Chris Pronger did not record one hit through 40 minutes of play in Tuesday's game. He's a frustrated player based on the score with the Ducks down 4-0 at the time. I didn't like Rob Niedermayer in this situation either. Obviously he gets the major penalty but he could see Pronger closing in on Holmstrom and he didn't let up. Simply put, it was a vicious hit. Interesting... Edited May 16, 2007 by CUJO#31 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akustyk 84 Report post Posted May 16, 2007 I don't think he invented the wheel on this article. it basically says what is a common knowledge. the only good part is that Dregger seems to be the only person in TSN studio staff who has balls to not root for the Ducks (he seems slightly Wings biased even) and even express his pro-Wings feelings. that's a nice contrast to McKenzie who is justifying every single crap that comes from the Ducks and is the last person to have a positive word about the Wings (except for praising Hasek to pretend it's all Dom responsible for Ducks failure). I mean... McKenzie is not a dumb guy and he used to have some good observations and weighted opinions which I used to like. not so in this series. he's become such a brown-nosed Ducks fan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
calfan 0 Report post Posted May 16, 2007 I don't think he invented the wheel on this article. it basically says what is a common knowledge. the only good part is that Dregger seems to be the only person in TSN studio staff who has balls to not root for the Ducks (he seems slightly Wings biased even) and even express his pro-Wings feelings. that's a nice contrast to McKenzie who is justifying every single crap that comes from the Ducks and is the last person to have a positive word about the Wings (except for praising Hasek to pretend it's all Dom responsible for Ducks failure). I mean... McKenzie is not a dumb guy and he used to have some good observations and weighted opinions which I used to like. not so in this series. he's become such a brown-nosed Ducks fan I heard McKenzie last night on TSN and I read his column today and I don't think he's justifying what Pronger did, he's simply pointing out that the league has a history of rationalizing away suspensions and that even with the hit last night it is entirely possible to reach a no suspension decision. Everyone on the panel last night had jumped on the "gotta suspend" bandwagon. It would hardly have been interesting TV for him to do the same and I liked the counterpoint he put forward because the possibility exists for nothing to happen. As for giving props to the Wings - he clearly states the hit will result in people overlooking the obvious - the Wings owned the Ducks last night. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akustyk 84 Report post Posted May 16, 2007 (edited) I heard McKenzie last night on TSN and I read his column today and I don't think he's justifying what Pronger did, he's simply pointing out that the league has a history of rationalizing away suspensions and that even with the hit last night it is entirely possible to reach a no suspension decision. Everyone on the panel last night had jumped on the "gotta suspend" bandwagon. It would hardly have been interesting TV for him to do the same and I liked the counterpoint he put forward because the possibility exists for nothing to happen. yeah, I think your point is pretty valid. I might be a little biased against him after listening to him in Game 1 when he did everything possible to praise the Ducks and to not see positives in Wings. I understand his right to have own opinion, but with him being a TV guy I'd like to see a bit more fairness in all these opinions. I kinda like McKenzie for being a guy leaning towards toughness, but it needs to have some equilibrum. McKenzie is too clearly pro-Ducks for me. simply so Edited May 16, 2007 by akustyk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justheducks 0 Report post Posted May 16, 2007 yeah, I think your point is pretty valid. I might be a little biased against him after listening to him in Game 1 when he did everything possible to praise the Ducks and to not see positives in Wings. I understand his right to have own opinion, but with him being a TV guy I'd like to see a bit more fairness in all these opinions. I kinda like McKenzie for being a guy leaning towards toughness, but it needs to have some equilibrum. McKenzie is too clearly pro-Ducks for me. simply so i dont see how anyone can even take any of these guys seriosu anyways anyone on tsn or espn only takes who is playing best at the time. at one point berry melrose said the red wings would barely sneak into the playoffs as a 7th or 8th seed because they lacked defense and had an overaged goalie that couldnt last longer then 20 games before his body giving out Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted May 16, 2007 I don't think he invented the wheel on this article. it basically says what is a common knowledge. the only good part is that Dregger seems to be the only person in TSN studio staff who has balls to not root for the Ducks (he seems slightly Wings biased even) and even express his pro-Wings feelings. that's a nice contrast to McKenzie who is justifying every single crap that comes from the Ducks and is the last person to have a positive word about the Wings (except for praising Hasek to pretend it's all Dom responsible for Ducks failure). I mean... McKenzie is not a dumb guy and he used to have some good observations and weighted opinions which I used to like. not so in this series. he's become such a brown-nosed Ducks fan Yeah, MacKenzie's turned me off a bit this series. Normally I like the guy. Healy went form being a Thorton-loving ****** in the last series to showing some Rew Wing love. But Dreger's the man. I find him the calmest, most professional, least clownish of the bunch. So it's no coincidence he picked Detroit to win the cup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akustyk 84 Report post Posted May 16, 2007 (edited) i dont see how anyone can even take any of these guys seriosu anyways I actually regard TSN staff as people who know what they're talking about and are not the ones to simply jump the bandwaggons. that's not to say they're not prone to "evolutions of attitude" (so to say) but they are still arther firm at their opinions. I mean - sure, I can be harsh on McKenzie for being anti-Wing in this series, but he's been the guy who is pro-toughness for long time and he does the same now. and I'm almost certain even if the Ducks go trailing this series 1-3 McKenzie will root for them and praise tough play (and I don't mean Pronger like s***, but what's usually understood as tough game) my gripe is he is just too single-sided and refuse to see some good in Wings. other than making Hasek a second coming of Jesus Christ it's not like Mullet who used to start bashing Wings like crazy and subsequently changed his tune as the Wings advanced further in the playoffs (I mean the pre-cap era when we used to be clear favourites to the cup). anyone on tsn or espn only takes who is playing best at the time. at one point berry melrose said the red wings would barely sneak into the playoffs as a 7th or 8th seed because they lacked defense and had an overaged goalie that couldnt last longer then 20 games before his body giving out not gonna discuss Mullet, because in my book he's just a tad over ppl like Woody Paige or Kara Yorio - I mean utter morons who blatantly root for one team (or against another). Mullet is more knowledgeable than Paige or Yorio, but he's still too blatantly biased TSN used to be different in that respect Edited May 16, 2007 by akustyk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
