Andy Pred 48 337 Report post Posted May 21, 2007 If ever a teams name was "On the Cup" then it has to be the Ducks this year. I just can't see what more the Wings can do to beat these guys, besides scoring more than they do! Lady luck sure is singing their tune in this series. In all honesty they have been the better team I would say in 1 out of the 5 games so far. Bounces can kill you in this game and but for some not going the Wings way we could be thru 4-1 instead of starring down the barrel. Yes you can point to lack of goals, but that is at home. Having come back from Anaheim with 8 goals in the bag we didn't deserve to split that 1-1, but thats what happened and we came home with the series tied at 2's. We have overcome Kipper and a hot Nabakov to get this far and now we have to overcome the GiguereMan. We saw what we are capable off in game 3 and that was with Pronger on their D, we need more of the same in game 6 get it done and hopefully bring it back home for game 7. Like I said the luck hasn't been too kind to us in this series so far, lets hope we get some pretty soon. If we can pull off a win on the Pond I will be over the moon, and I just know the guys will finish it off back at the Joe. Whatever happens we have had a great year, not bad for a team that was written off before the season started eh? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
w00p33 2 Report post Posted May 21, 2007 A few things here. First off , I have confidence in the magic game 6, it has saved us twice so far these playoffs. I'm sick of Giggy getting lucky vs. the Wings. Is he a good goalie, yes. Is he capable of stealing a series for the Ducks, yes. Can the Wings beat him? Emphatically yes! Statistically Wings have 4th best goals for/game, more importantly they lead the league in goals vs/game, BELOW 2!!! They have the highest power play goals for at 17 even though they are 4th in percentage. They are middle of the pack in PK though they have more (4) shorties than anyone else. They are second in faceoffs to a defunct Dallas, though in this series Pahlson has been great, and that scares me. Anaheim has103 points/16players, Detroit has 103points/17 players. Detroit has a tiny bit more in depth and we are missing Schneider now. The truth is folks, this SHOULD be the conference final. Detroit went through more to get where they are and that experience may be the decidning factor. That said, Anaheim deserves to be where they are as they have equalled Detroit's output with 2 less games. Should Detroit win, no shame in their game. That said, I think the magic game 6 will save them and even if they don't win the series, game 6 should be theirs. And even if they don't win there is no lack of pride for me in this team for their achievements this post-season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WINGS TILL DEATH 9 Report post Posted May 21, 2007 The Duck did not earn their way here. The 1st seed is supposed to have the easyist route, NOT the 4th seed. If we would have played the series the ducks have played we would be 8-0 going into a tried Anahiem. The Duck are just made of luck goals off sticks, and goal that are saved, but the tender crosses the line all pure luck, and if luck is what gets your name on the Cup I don't want that Cup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZAMBONI 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2007 The Duck did not earn their way here. The 1st seed is supposed to have the easyist route, NOT the 4th seed. If we would have played the series the ducks have played we would be 8-0 going into a tried Anahiem. The Duck are just made of luck goals off sticks, and goal that are saved, but the tender crosses the line all pure luck, and if luck is what gets your name on the Cup I don't want that Cup. The ducks did earn their way here they beat two opponents just like the red wings. They're the 2nd seed actually. You don't know that you would have swept either of the teams the ducks played in fact had your team gone the other route,they might not even be in the conference final. Luck goals like game 1? Luck goals like Lang against San Jose? We can do this back and forth,but i think its time the ducks got some credit for winning 3 out of 5 games against a very good wings team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted May 21, 2007 The ducks did earn their way here they beat two opponents just like the red wings. They're the 2nd seed actually. You don't know that you would have swept either of the teams the ducks played in fact had your team gone the other route,they might not even be in the conference final. Luck goals like game 1? Luck goals like Lang against San Jose? We can do this back and forth,but i think its time the ducks got some credit for winning 3 out of 5 games against a very good wings team. I know this isn't your point, but how was Lang's goal against SJ luck? If you aren't referring to the time that it took place in the game, then there's nothing about that goal that was luck. It was a great shot, and found its way into the net. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hank 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2007 You know what they say "Skill brings good luck". But it's hard to agree with that mantra when you look at how well the Wings have played compared to the Ducks. Before this series began everyone and their dog talked about how much bigger, faster and more skilled and physical the Ducks were. But if you knew nothing about hockey and watched the last 3 games it would be the Wings you'd assume that statement was made about. The Ducks looked terrible for 59 minutes of game 5. The Wings owned them and there wasn't anything the Ducks could do about it. Then Franzen has a brain freeze and Neidermayer gets off a shot that deflects favourably for him. That's all she wrote. I hope that the Wings leave nothing to chance in Game 6 but it would be nice to get a couple of those bounces. We got them in game 1 so we're due. But it seems like only 2 games out of the 5 have gone for the team that outplayed the other. The Ducks and their fans should be extremely grateful for getting back to back wins in games they had no business winning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZAMBONI 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2007 I know this isn't your point, but how was Lang's goal against SJ luck? If you aren't referring to the time that it took place in the game, then there's nothing about that goal that was luck. It was a great shot, and found its way into the net. I was just trying to make a point of how ludicrous it sounds to call the ducks lucky. I think opportunist would be a better word. Thats exactly what i was referring to you're correct,my main point is the ducks have been working hard to earn every inch of ice and fighting through a very tough detroit defense to salvage victories and to downplay that is to in a sense discredit your own team. The nhl playoffs are a war regardless of which team they play. So if the board members want to talk about how lucky the ducks are and how bad they suck,ultimately it discredits the fine team your city ices each game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bullocks Report post Posted May 21, 2007 You know what they say "Skill brings good luck". But it's hard to agree with that mantra when you look at how well the Wings have played compared to the Ducks. Before this series began everyone and their dog talked about how much bigger, faster and more skilled and physical the Ducks were. But if you knew nothing about hockey and watched the last 3 games it would be the Wings you'd assume that statement was made about. The Ducks looked terrible for 59 minutes of game 5. The Wings owned them and there wasn't anything the Ducks could do about it. Then Franzen has a brain freeze and Neidermayer gets off a shot that deflects favourably for him. That's all she wrote. I hope that the Wings leave nothing to chance in Game 6 but it would be nice to get a couple of those bounces. We got them in game 1 so we're due. But it seems like only 2 games out of the 5 have gone for the team that outplayed the other. The Ducks and their fans should be extremely grateful for getting back to back wins in games they had no business winning. doesn't that just make u wanna puke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZAMBONI 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2007 You know what they say "Skill brings good luck". But it's hard to agree with that mantra when you look at how well the Wings have played compared to the Ducks. Before this series began everyone and their dog talked about how much bigger, faster and more skilled and physical the Ducks were. But if you knew nothing about hockey and watched the last 3 games it would be the Wings you'd assume that statement was made about. The Ducks looked terrible for 59 minutes of game 5. The Wings owned them and there wasn't anything the Ducks could do about it. Then Franzen has a brain freeze and Neidermayer gets off a shot that deflects favourably for him. That's all she wrote. I hope that the Wings leave nothing to chance in Game 6 but it would be nice to get a couple of those bounces. We got them in game 1 so we're due. But it seems like only 2 games out of the 5 have gone for the team that outplayed the other. The Ducks and their fans should be extremely grateful for getting back to back wins in games they had no business winning. I don't believe for a second the ducks were outplayed for 59 minutes,however i agree the wings really tilted the ice for a vast majority of the game. They lead by a goal for 59 minutes and the ducks certainly are feeling fortunate today to have come out with a W. The ducks got a great bounce but it was the right shot at the right time by the right guy to earn the W. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hank 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2007 I was just trying to make a point of how ludicrous it sounds to call the ducks lucky. I think opportunist would be a better word. Thats exactly what i was referring to you're correct,my main point is the ducks have been working hard to earn every inch of ice and fighting through a very tough detroit defense to salvage victories and to downplay that is to in a sense discredit your own team. The nhl playoffs are a war regardless of which team they play. So if the board members want to talk about how lucky the ducks are and how bad they suck,ultimately it discredits the fine team your city ices each game. I don't think the majority of people here are saying that the Ducks suck. I think they're a great team. But the last two games the Wings have made them look anything but a #2 seed and a Cup favourite. The Wings deserved wins in the last two games and any Anaheim player or fan would be delusional or lying if they told anyone that they were the better team in games 4 and 5. In the end, Wings fans here have a right to pipe off and show their frustration. If what some people say sounds disrespectful or childish so be it. Afterall, this is a Redwings message board. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZAMBONI 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2007 I don't think the majority of people here are saying that the Ducks suck. I think they're a great team. But the last two games the Wings have made them look anything but a #2 seed and a Cup favourite. The Wings deserved wins in the last two games and any Anaheim player or fan would be delusional or lying if they told anyone that they were the better team in games 4 and 5. In the end, Wings fans here have a right to pipe off and show their frustration. If what some people say sounds disrespectful or childish so be it. Afterall, this is a Redwings message board. I never said anything contrary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted May 21, 2007 I don't think the majority of people here are saying that the Ducks suck. I think they're a great team. But the last two games the Wings have made them look anything but a #2 seed and a Cup favourite. The Wings deserved wins in the last two games and any Anaheim player or fan would be delusional or lying if they told anyone that they were the better team in games 4 and 5. In the end, Wings fans here have a right to pipe off and show their frustration. If what some people say sounds disrespectful or childish so be it. Afterall, this is a Redwings message board. 100% agree with the bolded statement. The Ducks are a fine team, and have earned their #2 seed in the West, but the fact remains that the Ducks somehow stole these past 2 games, and were outplayed in both of them. However, that's hockey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lets go pavel 2 Report post Posted May 21, 2007 100% agree with the bolded statement. The Ducks are a fine team, and have earned their #2 seed in the West, but the fact remains that the Ducks somehow stole these past 2 games, and were outplayed in both of them. However, that's hockey. Exactly. Being lucky doesn't take anything away from being good. I think we were the better team yesterday, the Ducks were the luckier team. The shot Lids shoots with his stick hits the crossbar, but the shot the Ducks shoot off his stick does a nice little rainbow over Dom and into the net. Those are the lucky breaks, and right now they're going Anaheim's way. And again, that's hockey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zion 93 Report post Posted May 21, 2007 This series should be OVER already. That said, the better team does not always win. Detroit has had a ROUGH road getting here, and the fact that they are playing this well against a team everyone said would absolutely run us over is a testiment to the true heart of this team. In the end, this may just be Anaheim's year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hank 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2007 This series should be OVER already. That said, the better team does not always win. Detroit has had a ROUGH road getting here, and the fact that they are playing this well against a team everyone said would absolutely run us over is a testiment to the true heart of this team. In the end, this may just be Anaheim's year. If the Ducks do manage to sqeak out another win, they're going to be destroyed by the Sens. Look at what the Wings are doing to them with half of their lineup banged up? Even if you stuck Kunitz back in the lineup does anyone really believe that this series would still be going on if we had a healthy Schneider, Kronwall, Lebda, Calder and Bertuzzi? No way. Not even close. I think the only team that could give Ottawa a tough go is the Wings. Giggy's pads won't get away with kicking out one fat rebound after another against the Sens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted May 21, 2007 Heres the deal: The Wings we're arguably the better team in the past three games and we only walked away once with a win. The Ducks have, despite their mediocre playing, unleashed a Detroit team's fury, now being up against the wall. We're going to come out HARD in the 6th game, overwhelmingly hard. Nobody has seen a desperate Red Wing team this year, and I'm confident that anyone who does won't last long. Expect the Ducks' all-star Lady Luck to be hit hard and KOed for the rest of the series. And when we get a lead, don't expect us to relent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regwinguofmfan 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2007 As has been all playoffs I am seriously concerned about our PP We score a couple on the PP and this series is over. If we turn up the heat they will take penalties, can we score on the PP? We shall see tomorrow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites