Hasek to Dominate 'Canes...Ozzie will own Preds

[Booster313 138]

What a great game by Dom....I am going down to the game with Munkee on Sunday and we are both looking forward to seeing Hasek in net as we have seen a lot of Ozzy in person this year. Dom delivered the best check of the year so far for those of you that didn't see it, it should make sports center and every amazing hockey plays DVD for the next 10 years. It's great to see Dom back in true form. I also can't wait for Monday's game against the preds to see the wizard in net again. So tired of two and three day breaks between Wings games. We are lucky to have two of the best backstopping our team night in and night out!

Edited December 8, 2007 by Booster313

[puckloo39 5,686]

What a great game by Dom....I am going down to the game with Munkee on Sunday and we are both looking forward to seeing Hasek in net as we have seen a lot of Ozzy in person this year. Dom delivered the best check of the year so far for those of you that didn't see it, it should make sports center and every amazing hockey plays DVD for the next 10 years. It's great to see Dom back in true form. I also can't wait for Monday's game against the preds to see the wizard in net again. So tired of two and three day breaks between Wings games. We are lucky to have two of the best backstopping our team night in and night out!

you guys are going without me?

j/k, have a blast, and report in when you get home. I will be watching on tv, if Bettman and his evil henchmen don't steal my game for their network again.

[omnipotent_hudler 0]

What a great game by Dom..

I particularly liked the part where he was challenged in the game and had to be spectacular in order for us to win?

Dom delivered the best check of the year so far for those of you that didn't see it

after my initial reaction of extreme laughter I was simply happy that we avoided a controversy here in Detroit by a few inches.

wasn't really a check either

[Booster313 138]

I particularly liked the part where he was challenged in the game and had to be spectacular in order for us to win?

after my initial reaction of extreme laughter I was simply happy that we avoided a controversy here in Detroit by a few inches.

wasn't really a check either

No he didn't have to stand on his head but he made the clutch saves when necessary, and I agree that play could have been disastrous but it wasn't dirty. Dom and other goalies have done it a million times before, if a player is coming in on a break away and he has his head down or doesn't have control of the puck you challenge.

Maybe if Dom would have been perfect and not let in any goals it could have been a better game for him...oh wait...maybe if he did let in a goal????

He played as well as he had too. He was perfect. We won.

For once lets not make this a debate...the title of my thread is not who's better or who sucks, can't you be happy for both goalies when they play well?

Edited December 8, 2007 by Booster313

[dallas27 7]

Two things. Firstly: Dom made the saves he should make. Especially considering the high regards everyone has for him. Secondly: That was beyond dumb for him to do. Not only was he risking his old body an injury he could not recover form it was honestly a dirty play. Hasek just wanted to put his body on him, Gaborik had full control of the puck at the blue line. I could see if it's a race for the puck but not that. Why risk it with minutes to go at the end of the game.

But Hasek isn't exactly the brightest crayon in the box.

[Booster313 138]

Two things. Firstly: Dom made the saves he should make. Especially considering the high regards everyone has for him. Secondly: That was beyond dumb for him to do. Not only was he risking his old body an injury he could not recover form it was honestly a dirty play. Hasek just wanted to put his body on him, Gaborik had full control of the puck at the blue line. I could see if it's a race for the puck but not that. Why risk it with minutes to go at the end of the game.

But Hasek isn't exactly the brightest crayon in the box.

What would you do if you had nothing to complain about? I give up...

[omnipotent_hudler 0]

For once lets not make this a debate...the title of my thread is not who's better or who sucks, can't you be happy for both goalies when they play well?

I'm just astonished by how fickle this board is. Hasek has a couple of bad games and people jump all over him. He then has a stretch of bad games and people's criticism of him becomes justified. Then he starts in two games where the team in front of him barely requires him to do any work at all and all of a sudden he's "back to normal"? BS. We haven't seen any proof either way yet.

[dallas27 7]

No he didn't have to stand on his head but he made the clutch saves when necessary, and I agree that play could have been disastrous but it wasn't dirty. Dom and other goalies have done it a million times before, if a player is coming in on a break away and he has his head down or doesn't have control of the puck you challenge.

Maybe if Dom would have been perfect and not let in any goals it could have been a better game for him...oh wait...maybe if he did let in a goal????

He played as well as he had too. He was perfect. We won.

For once lets not make this a debate...the title of my thread is not who's better or who sucks, can't you be happy for both goalies when they play well?

He didn't make any clutch saves. And it was dirty. Goalies have not done it a million times before, not when THE PLAYER HAS FULL CONTROL OF THE PUCK AT THE BLUE LINE. THAT IS NOT CHALLENGING. Question: Have you played any junior hockey as a goalie? I have. That is not challenging. Challenging is going up to the hash marks and backing in as fast as the forward is going. Not bull-rushing a forward and throwing your body at him.

Not to mention a defenseman is a stride away from catching up.

[Booster313 138]

I'm just astonished by how fickle this board is. Hasek has a couple of bad games and people jump all over him. He then has a stretch of bad games and people's criticism of him becomes justified. Then he starts in two games where the team in front of him barely requires him to do any work at all and all of a sudden he's "back to normal"? BS. We haven't seen any proof either way yet.

I didn't say anything about any other game but tonights. Any you can search my posts all you like, you won't find me bashing Hasek or Osgood anywhere on here. You may find me thinking he should have played better, which he is doing. Basically your post strengthens my point. People want to have a reason to complain. Plain and simple. Cujo, Manny, Lang, Kronwall, Datsyuk, Fedorov, Lilija, Osgood, Hasek. That's just what I can remember off the top of my head. They have all had their turn as resident wipping boy at one time or another. Watch if Hasek continues to play the way he did the past two games the "wings faithful" will find someone else to complain about. There are a lot of negative people in the world. We have a great team with the best record in the league, we make the playoffs every year and we have at least a shot at the cup every year. Not many teams can say that. At least Lions fans actually have something to ***** about!

He didn't make any clutch saves. And it was dirty. Goalies have not done it a million times before, not when THE PLAYER HAS FULL CONTROL OF THE PUCK AT THE BLUE LINE. THAT IS NOT CHALLENGING. Question: Have you played any junior hockey as a goalie? I have. That is not challenging. Challenging is going up to the hash marks and backing in as fast as the forward is going. Not bull-rushing a forward and throwing your body at him.

Not to mention a defenseman is a stride away from catching up.

No didn't play any Hockey as a Jr. Goalie. But how many NHL games have you played? How bout Vezina's? Stanley Cups? So if Dom or any other NHL goalie wants to skate to center ice to stop a puck then maybe you should take note. They are ALL better than you.

[dallas27 7]

No didn't play any Hockey as a Jr. Goalie. But how many NHL games have you played? How bout Vezina's? Stanley Cups? So if Dom or any other NHL goalie wants to skate to center ice to stop a puck then maybe you should take note. They are ALL better than you.

The NHL goalie has nothing to do with a conversation between you and me. You tried claiming he "challenged" and I simply proved you wrong. Going by your logic NHL goalie > me > you. I win.

[puckloo39 5,686]

No he didn't have to stand on his head but he made the clutch saves when necessary, and I agree that play could have been disastrous but it wasn't dirty. Dom and other goalies have done it a million times before, if a player is coming in on a break away and he has his head down or doesn't have control of the puck you challenge.

Maybe if Dom would have been perfect and not let in any goals it could have been a better game for him...oh wait...maybe if he did let in a goal????

He played as well as he had too. He was perfect. We won.

For once lets not make this a debate...the title of my thread is not who's better or who sucks, can't you be happy for both goalies when they play well?

yahoo game recap

"I believe I can continue to play like this," Hasek said. "I can feel it more in my heart and my stomach. I am talking more, you can hear me on the ice. I bang my stick more on the ice and that's what I need to be doing to keep myself in the game and play on the best level." Any player who ever played with Hasek will tell you: that's a sign Hasek is on his game when he's loud and hollering and out of his crease.

This game doesn't foretell that Hasek will be unbeatable the rest of the season (nor will Ozzie, recent evidence to the contrary). But he's back in ways that matter. Dom plays the Canes because he could use one more game to face a few more consistent shots (third period tonight was a good start).

Ozzie plays the Preds... because he freakin' OWNS them.

What's the problem?

Edited December 8, 2007 by puckloo39

[gcom007 1,465]

Honestly, while in the aftermath with seemingly no injuries, it's fun to laugh about and make light of, in the moment I was freaking out pretty bad because that could've so easily gone really, really bad. All fan bias aside, honestly, it was a stupid thing to do. The guy above is right about the challenging completely as well. There was no race. Should he have had his head up? Yeah, but lots of guys who have gotten injured bad on dirty plays didn't have their heads up either because certain things you just shouldn't expect to happen even though they sadly do. While this isn't on the same level of "dirty plays" as some, given the score, the time left in the game, and level of control of the puck, this was completely unnecessary and it's just a damn good thing he wasn't injured. This kind of showmanship isn't worth the risk. If a skater pulled something like that he'd be crucified and a goalie is a bigger target. If this kind of "challenging" happens more often, someone will get hurt or something will be done. At the very least, it's excessive.

[dallas27 7]

I just don't get how you can justify what Hasek did was, I guess, justifiable. Especially with the Hasek blinders you have on. I would figure you would not have condoned what he did. I mean. I know with minutes to go and a 5-0 lead that was the best play he had....

[Booster313 138]

The NHL goalie has nothing to do with a conversation between you and me. You tried claiming he "challenged" and I simply proved you wrong. Going by your logic NHL goalie > me > you. I win.

As long as you feel better then I am cool with it! Congratulations on your win.

[dallas27 7]

As long as you feel better then I am cool with it! Congratulations on your win.

Thanks. Because that was the dumbest move Hasek could have done.

Hey. My health for the past few years has been a question mark. I have an idea. It's the best one yet. There are minutes to go in the period. We have a 5-0 lead. Let's rush Marion Gaborik, who has full control of the puck, and throw my body at him. THIS CAN'T MISS.

You don't see the stupidity in this?

[puckloo39 5,686]

I just don't get how you can justify what Hasek did was, I guess, justifiable. Especially with the Hasek blinders you have on. I would figure you would not have condoned what he did. I mean. I know with minutes to go and a 5-0 lead that was the best play he had....

I've seen dozens if not hundreds of hits worse than what Dom did. Maybe because other goalies don't come out and play the puck (which is what he was doing) the way he does, it seemed over the top, but it's something he's always done, the sliding speed bump thing. I am just glad no one got hurt.

As for justifying it, there's no need. Ken and Mick were even surprised that he even got a penalty. They had on their Wings homer glasses, perhaps? If Dom had stayed in the crease, Gaborik would have scored, and then everyone could point out that Hasek should have saved the goal, I expect. OK, he did.

[Booster313 138]

Honestly, while in the aftermath with seemingly no injuries, it's fun to laugh about and make light of, in the moment I was freaking out pretty bad because that could've so easily gone really, really bad. All fan bias aside, honestly, it was a stupid thing to do. The guy above is right about the challenging completely as well. There was no race. Should he have had his head up? Yeah, but lots of guys who have gotten injured bad on dirty plays didn't have their heads up either because certain things you just shouldn't expect to happen even though they sadly do. While this isn't on the same level of "dirty plays" as some, given the score, the time left in the game, and level of control of the puck, this was completely unnecessary and it's just a damn good thing he wasn't injured. This kind of showmanship isn't worth the risk. If a skater pulled something like that he'd be crucified and a goalie is a bigger target. If this kind of "challenging" happens more often, someone will get hurt or something will be done. At the very least, it's excessive.

When Babcock was asked after the last game about the "dirty" center ice hit on Hudler all he said was that Hudler should have has his head up. If Gaborik had his head up he would have probably scored a goal on a wide open net. Dom's done that dozens of times before and this is the first time he ever flipped a player. I agree it would have been bad for Dom and Gaborik if he had been injured but he wasn't Hockey is a full contact sport and all it takes at any moment is someone to be just slightly out of position a game of inches if you will. Any inch this way you score a goal and inch that way it goes off the post. Goalies get plowed into all the time...their necks could snap they could break a leg an arm...risk of injury is just part of the sport.

Intent to injury is the real issue. Dom did not intend to injury Gaborik he intented to stop the puck...

[dallas27 7]

I've seen dozens if not hundreds of hits worse than what Dom did. Maybe because other goalies don't come out and play the puck (which is what he was doing) the way he does, it seemed over the top, but it's something he's always done, the sliding speed bump thing. I am just glad no one got hurt.

As for justifying it, there's no need. Ken and Mick were even surprised that he even got a penalty. They had on their Wings homer glasses, perhaps? If Dom had stayed in the crease, Gaborik would have scored, and then everyone could point out that Hasek should have saved the goal, I expect. OK, he did.

I would rather have a goal scored on Hasek than him risk his whole season. I guess I am a dumbass for thinking so. Sorry.

It's so easy to see who has played hockey and who hasn't. It's really unbelievable. For the average fan this was an awesome play. For someone who has played hockey. This was beyond dumb.

[J-Swift 0]

I particularly liked the part where he was challenged in the game and had to be spectacular in order for us to win?

Lighten up.

Ozzie should indeed get the start against the Preds. He plays them pretty well, doesn't he?

For the average fan this was an awesome play. For someone who has played hockey. This was beyond dumb.

Gee, I just love when people pull out this argument. You don't think Hasek plays hockey? And I'm pretty sure Mickey Redmond (a former hockey player no-less) was vigorously defending Dom when he was called for tripping.

[puckloo39 5,686]

I would rather have a goal scored on Hasek than him risk his whole season. I guess I am a dumbass for thinking so. Sorry.

It's so easy to see who has played hockey and who hasn't. It's really unbelievable. For the average fan this was an awesome play. For someone who has played hockey. This was beyond dumb.

no, you're not dumb for stating your opinion, Dallas. But Dom is Dom. He's not dumb either, but he's unconventional, and I doubt that's going to change. Gaborik is a smart guy, and he of all people should know Hasek's propensities. I saw Dom do that exact move in the 2002 Olympics, and many other times with not quite so spectacular results. He isn't going to change his game (at least I hope not).

Hudler should keep his head up, and so should Gaborik. Maybe he was just so excited to finally get the puck away from the Wings, he wasn't paying attention to anything else.

[Booster313 138]

I would rather have a goal scored on Hasek than him risk his whole season. I guess I am a dumbass for thinking so. Sorry.

It's so easy to see who has played hockey and who hasn't. It's really unbelievable. For the average fan this was an awesome play. For someone who has played hockey. This was beyond dumb.

I never said I didn't play hockey, I just said I wasn't a goalie in Jr's and Lidstrom thought it was pretty funny....go back and watch the game again...he couldn't stop laughing. Your entitled to your opinion but don't speak for hockey players collectively.

[gcom007 1,465]

I would rather have a goal scored on Hasek than him risk his whole season. I guess I am a dumbass for thinking so. Sorry.

It's so easy to see who has played hockey and who hasn't. It's really unbelievable. For the average fan this was an awesome play. For someone who has played hockey. This was beyond dumb.

I don't know how much this has to do with it, but I'll tell you, as a former player, the idea of a goalie flying out at me like that scares the s*** out of me. All I can think about is how my knees would handle it. You guys gotta remember, this stuff happens on the ice so much faster than we can imagine watching at home and when you've got six feet of mass sliding at your knees on a breakaway, it can be tough to get around it. It's like a car crash...it can happen in an instant. In this instance, I don't like it. It's entertaining to watch in retrospect but plays like this take "challenging" to the extreme and you're just asking for trouble. Then as soon as someone actually does get hurt everyone changes their tune. I don't care if it's happened before, tonight was extreme and was very close to being really ugly. As opposed to basing justification on the previous existence of the play not yielding issues, shouldn't this close-call serve as a warning to the danger of the play as opposed to it being celebrated and justified even more so? Again, if this was a player diving at another players knees, this would be a different story. I don't see why the goalie should be different especially considering an even greater potential for damage based on sheer mass.

Edited December 8, 2007 by gcom007

[dallas27 7]

no, you're not dumb for stating your opinion, Dallas. But Dom is Dom. He's not dumb either, but he's unconventional, and I doubt that's going to change. Gaborik is a smart guy, and he of all people should know Hasek's propensities. I saw Dom do that exact move in the 2002 Olympics, and many other times with not quite so spectacular results. He isn't going to change his game (at least I hope not).

Hudler should keep his head up, and so should Gaborik. Maybe he was just so excited to finally get the puck away from the Wings, he wasn't paying attention to anything else.

Loo. I know you have to agree with me that even though Hasek is unconventional this was the dumbest thing he could have done with a 5-0 lead. Like. Is the game on the line? No. So don't be a jackass and try to make some stupid play that endangers your career.

[Booster313 138]

I don't know how much this has to do with it, but I'll tell you, as a former player, the idea of a goalie flying out at me like that scares the s*** out of me. All I can think about is how my knees would handle it. You guys gotta remember, this stuff happens on the ice so much faster than we can imagine watching at home and when you've got six feet of mass sliding at your knees on a breakaway, it can be tough to get around it. It's like a car crash...it can happen in an instant. In this instance, I don't like it. It's entertaining to watch in retrospect but plays like this take "challenging" to the extreme and you're just asking for trouble. Then as soon as someone actually does get hurt everyone changes their tune. I don't care if it's happened before, tonight was extreme and was very close to being really ugly. As opposed to the previous existence of the play not yielding issues, shouldn't this close-call serve as a warning to the danger of the play as opposed to it being celebrated and justified?

Yeah if you would like to play two hand touch hockey... No hitting from behind or cross checks, slashes etc to the head. Other than that, keep your head up it's fair game. Again that play never would have happened if Gaborik wouldn't have been looking down at his feet and the puck.

Edited December 8, 2007 by Booster313

[omnipotent_hudler 0]

And I'm pretty sure Mickey Redmond (a former hockey player no-less) was vigorously defending Dom when he was called for tripping.

I'm pretty sure the fact that Redmond is one of the biggest homers in the broadcasting business kind of makes that argument weightless.