WhiteLightning91 105 Report post Posted April 9, 2008 (edited) Stamkos is no Ovechkin or Crosby. I think Tampa Bay has to consider moving the pick for a package that would help them in areas that are more pressing, such as defense. Outside of Boyle, the Lightning don't have a dman on the squad that is a true top pairing dman. I thought about that. There was a poll question over at TSN about who has the best chance at stealing the #1 draft position from from Stamkos. Since were talking Tampa Bay, there biggest need is in goal. Yes, I know they have Holmqvist and Smith, but how many people realistically think TB has a shot at the Cup with one of those guys in net for them? The problem is, as deep of a draft as this year is, this is one of the worst drafts if you're looking at a goalie. Tampa's problems aren't on offense, there on defense. If they end up choosing to shop the #1 pick and they don't find a package of their liking for Stamkos (highly unlikely, I know), how much of a chance do you think there is of Doughty or Pietrangelo upstaging Stamkos on draft day. Wouldn't that be a shocker?!?! My guess is if TB does go for a Dman, welcome to TB Drew Doughty! Edited April 9, 2008 by WhiteLightning91 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
imisssergei 0 Report post Posted April 9, 2008 I thought about that. There was a poll question over at TSN about who has the best chance at stealing the #1 draft position from from Stamkos. Since were talking Tampa Bay, there biggest need is in goal. Yes, I know they have Holmqvist and Smith, but how many people realistically think TB has a shot at the Cup with one of those guys in net for them? The problem is, as deep of a draft as this year is, this is one of the worst drafts if you're looking at a goalie. Tampa's problems aren't on offense, there on defense. If they end up choosing to shop the #1 pick and they don't find a package of their liking for Stamkos (highly unlikely, I know), how much of a chance do you think there is of Doughty or Pietrangelo upstaging Stamkos on draft day. Wouldn't that be a shocker?!?! My guess is if TB does go for a Dman, welcome to TB Drew Doughty! Here is a scenario that I like. Tampa send the first overall pick and Holmqvist to Toronto for Kubina, Raycroft/Toskala, and the Leafs 1st round pick. Leafs really want Stamkos, and it's rumored that he wants to play in Toronto. The Leafs want to get rid of one of the two goaltenders, IMO Raycroft is the guy they want out, but Toskala is the better of the two. By trading for a solid dman, and a decent goaltender to fight for a starting job, the Lightning address two needs. Then with the Leafs pick at 7th overall the Lightning can take a solid prospect either on d or up front. The only real issue is the salary that the Lightning would take on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Winther 6 Report post Posted April 9, 2008 Here is a scenario that I like. Tampa send the first overall pick and Holmqvist to Toronto for Kubina, Raycroft/Toskala, and the Leafs 1st round pick. Leafs really want Stamkos, and it's rumored that he wants to play in Toronto. The Leafs want to get rid of one of the two goaltenders, IMO Raycroft is the guy they want out, but Toskala is the better of the two. By trading for a solid dman, and a decent goaltender to fight for a starting job, the Lightning address two needs. Then with the Leafs pick at 7th overall the Lightning can take a solid prospect either on d or up front. The only real issue is the salary that the Lightning would take on. Holmqvist was dealt to the stars along with brad richards, Tampas goalies are Smith/Rämö/Denis.. And, since they dealth Richards at the deadline, one would think they would have a bit more faith in Smith, since he (along with dumping salary) would be the main reason they were dealing Richards to Dallas to begin with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GordieSid&Ted Report post Posted April 9, 2008 Here is a scenario that I like. Tampa send the first overall pick and Holmqvist to Toronto for Kubina, Raycroft/Toskala, and the Leafs 1st round pick. Leafs really want Stamkos, and it's rumored that he wants to play in Toronto. The Leafs want to get rid of one of the two goaltenders, IMO Raycroft is the guy they want out, but Toskala is the better of the two. By trading for a solid dman, and a decent goaltender to fight for a starting job, the Lightning address two needs. Then with the Leafs pick at 7th overall the Lightning can take a solid prospect either on d or up front. The only real issue is the salary that the Lightning would take on. The only problem is Raycroft isn't decent. Toskala would be the guy I'd ask for if I had to choose. Behind a good team he could do well as he proved in San Jose. Raycroft is done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteLightning91 105 Report post Posted April 9, 2008 Toskala is not going anywhere. If Toronto is going to trade one of their goalies it will be Raycroft. The problem is that he has ZERO trade value. He was horrendous this year and really showed a lack of confidence in himself. I dont see Toronto being able to put together a package for Stamkos. Tampa is going to be looking for defense and a goalie. Toronto's defense is slow and overpaid. They would have to include Pogge in the deal in order for Tampa to even listen. With the heat they took after throwing Tukka Rask in the Raycroft deal with Boston, I can't see them trading away Pogge until Toskala proves he can be the #1 in Toronto for a whole season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
imisssergei 0 Report post Posted April 10, 2008 The only problem is Raycroft isn't decent. Toskala would be the guy I'd ask for if I had to choose. Behind a good team he could do well as he proved in San Jose. Raycroft is done. As the Leafs want Stamkos, I wouldn't be surprised for them to offer up everything but the kitchen sink to get him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shaman 713 Report post Posted April 10, 2008 (edited) Toskala is not going anywhere. If Toronto is going to trade one of their goalies it will be Raycroft. The problem is that he has ZERO trade value. He was horrendous this year and really showed a lack of confidence in himself. I dont see Toronto being able to put together a package for Stamkos. Tampa is going to be looking for defense and a goalie. Toronto's defense is slow and overpaid. They would have to include Pogge in the deal in order for Tampa to even listen. With the heat they took after throwing Tukka Rask in the Raycroft deal with Boston, I can't see them trading away Pogge until Toskala proves he can be the #1 in Toronto for a whole season. Honestly, for Stamkos I would trade away (1 or 2 of the Dmen) Ericson/Meech/Quiency/any Dman other then our top 3 and Howard/Osgood and not shed a tear.... Edited April 10, 2008 by Shaman464 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
