12 Games in - You're Holland...

[daniel1 32]

12 games in we're 8-2-2, not the end of the world but I think we've all seen enough to want to play armchair quarterback and assume the role of Holland in a little fantasy exercise to improve the team the way each of us sees best. I'm not saying these are the moves that Holland should make cause obviously he knows a heck of a lot more about the team and players than I do but if all I had to go on was my own observations this is what I would like to do. There's five days off and we need something to argue about too.

1. Waive Maltby - See if we can trade him for a pick, but honestly I don't think anyone is going to give you anything and I think there are teams that would take him for nothing to help with their PK or 4th line. What really bothers me about him is that he's on the books for close to a million next year too; yuck.

2. Trade Kopecky for Chris Neil - We need a legit banger who isn't afraid to drop the mitts and can actually win a fight in the NHL. Neil has some skill too and won't be a liability on the ice like Downey would. Neil scored 16 goals in 05/06 while racking up over 200 PIM's that season. He won't back down and can take a regular shift. Kopecky brings virtually nothing to the team at this point. Neil isn't making much either (1.1m) and is a UFA at the end of this season too so he won't be a liability next year if he doesn't pan out or win a job. With Kopecky and Maltby's salary off the books we can afford Neil.

3. Trade Lebda - I'm sure somebody wants him for a 3rd rounder. Meech is better and with Chelios coming back soon we need the roster spot. This also allows us to put Cheli on waivers if we need to call up Ericsson; I doubt anybody claims Cheli off waivers so that makes room for Ericsson come playoff time.

4. Waive McCarty - If he clears, send him down to GR.

5. Bring up Helm to take McCarty's spot. Helm deserves it and would really add some much needed energy and speed to our 4th line.

Hoss-Dats-Homer

Mule-Z-Sammy

Cleary-Flip-Hudler

Neil-Draper-Helm

Lids-Rafi

Kronner-Stuart

Lilja-Meech

Cheli

I dunno, it looks better to me...what would you do?

[Guest Crymson]

2. Trade Kopecky for Chris Neil - We need a legit banger who isn't afraid to drop the mitts and can actually win a fight in the NHL. Neil has some skill too and won't be a liability on the ice like Downey would. Neil scored 16 goals in 05/06 while racking up over 200 PIM's that season. He won't back down and can take a regular shift. Kopecky brings virtually nothing to the team at this point. Neil isn't making much either (1.1m) and is a UFA at the end of this season too so he won't be a liability next year if he doesn't pan out or win a job. With Kopecky and Maltby's salary off the books we can afford Neil.

The fact that you believe the Senators would accept this trade demonstrates an utter divorce from hockey reality on your part.

Edited November 4, 2008 by Crymson

[ilmickeyli 40]

for starters, mccarty is over 35 so it doesnt matter.. i agree that lebda h/as been bad, but its been glaringly obvious how bad he is.. do you think they could get something for him?

[DatsyukownzU13 1]

The fact that you believe the Senators would accept this trade demonstrates an utter divorce from hockey reality on your part.

Agreed. Would love to have Chris Neil on this team, though.

[DatsyukownzU13 1]

for starters, mccarty is over 35 so it doesnt matter.. i agree that lebda h/as been bad, but its been glaringly obvious how bad he is.. do you think they could get something for him?

I really doubt that they would get anything for him of value. If they couldn't get any draft picks for Quincey, who has debatably more upside, I doubt they can get much for Lebda (who has played even bad for Lebda standards this season). The guy is a completely liabilty and the first player since Boyd that I would consider a "void".

[hckypete96 3]

lolz at your moves. none will happen, and neil for kopecky would never ever happen. only move i like andi think will happen is bench maltby move mccarty back down to gr. then bring leino up and put him on line 2 with z and sammy/cleary/huds whoever.

[rage 24]

I really doubt that they would get anything for him of value. If they couldn't get any draft picks for Quincey, who has debatably more upside, I doubt they can get much for Lebda (who has played even bad for Lebda standards this season). The guy is a completely liabilty and the first player since Boyd that I would consider a "void".

He won't stay that bad. He will come around.

This whole team has sucked as far as D, and my favorite player is Lids, but come on......We will gel together and I don't see any team being close to us in a couple months!!

[P. Marlowe 748]

If I were Holland I would lift my feet on my desk, scratch my belly and smoke a big cigar. Next I might take my golden laptop and browse LGW Forums for laughs.

[Guest mindfly]

PLAYER CHANGES:

Remove Lebda

Remove Chelios (even though he hasn't really played this season, he's just too old)

Remove McCarty

Remove Maltyby

Remove Samuelsson

Bring up Abdelkader

Bring up Leino

Bring up Helm

Bring up Ericsson

LINEUP CHANGES

Helm and Leino for 3rd line roles, ericsson kan play top4 or top6

Zetterberg should center the 2ndline with mule and cleary/filppula/hudler whoever is the hottest gets the spot

Zetterberg&Datsyuk gets time together in PP (even though pp unit 1 is pretty solid)

Minimize PK time for lilja he's lazy and he sucks

PERSONAL REQUEST:

Force Nicklas Lidström to remove the visor

[betterREDthandead 58]

If I were Holland? I would put my feet up on the desk, smoke a cigar, count my paycheck just for kicks. Check the standings, maybe call up other GMs for a little trash talk. Polish my Cup rings. Watch Judge Judy. I'd probably look at the stat line and give myself a big ol' pat on the back for that guy on top of the points list.

Because seriously, Lebda for a 3rd rounder? Any GM who cared to come on here would see the beating he takes and decide the Wings should have to pay to take him off their hands. Now all of a sudden he's worth a high draft pick?

[Opie 308]

I would find a way using CIA technology to delete any past, present, or future thread on LGW that is a ZOMG!!1111!! hit the panic button and change things now the team is not undefeated ZOMG!!!OVERREACT!!!ZOMG!!!FREAKOUT!!!

Edited November 4, 2008 by Opie

[jvxp 0]

If I were Holland? I would put my feet up on the desk, smoke a cigar, count my paycheck just for kicks. Check the standings, maybe call up other GMs for a little trash talk. Polish my Cup rings. Watch Judge Judy. I'd probably look at the stat line and give myself a big ol' pat on the back for that guy on top of the points list.

Because seriously, Lebda for a 3rd rounder? Any GM who cared to come on here would see the beating he takes and decide the Wings should have to pay to take him off their hands. Now all of a sudden he's worth a high draft pick?

[Opie 308]

Hey don't laugh at Judge Judy until you have peeked under her robe, you will get a whole new sense of what just and injust!

[Reds4Life 51]

I'd buy Veyron or something.

[Hockeytown0001 7,652]

I'd probably go back to that Mobil station and see if anyone else calls to offer a crazy proposal

[Guest GordieSid&Ted]

12 games in we're 8-2-2, not the end of the world but I think we've all seen enough to want to play armchair quarterback and assume the role of Holland in a little fantasy exercise to improve the team the way each of us sees best. I'm not saying these are the moves that Holland should make cause obviously he knows a heck of a lot more about the team and players than I do but if all I had to go on was my own observations this is what I would like to do. There's five days off and we need something to argue about too.

First off, if I were Holland I'd get in touch with the moderators on LGW and ask them to ban those who post this s***e.

Seriously? We've got one of the best records in the league and we're not even playing that well.

We just came off of a tough west coast trip where we got 5 out of a possible 8 points. And outside of the Kings, Anaheim, Vancouver and San Jose are some of the hottest and/or best teams going thus far this season.

If we can pull out a 2-1-1 west coast swing when we're not even playing that great, against tough opponents, I'd turn the key to the nuclear missile launch back to the "off" position.

Edited November 4, 2008 by GordieSid&Ted

[Heaton 1]

Can I change the title to fantasy world? Because none of this fits into the cap world.

[uk_redwing 495]

and won't be a liability on the ice like Downey would.

Oh no he di'nt!

[frederick9125 0]

HOSSSA-DATS-HOMER

MULE-Z-FILP

CLEARY-DRAPS-LUCIC

LEINO-HUDS-HELM

(Abdelkader)

LIDS-RAFI

KRONNER-STU

ERICSSON-MEECH (CHELI AS MENTOR FOR ERICSSON LIKE HE WAS FOR FISCHER)

OZ

CONK

TRADE MALTS, KOP, LEBS FOR MILAN LUCIC

DROP D MAC OR TRADE FOR SOME CUP HOLDERS FOR THE JOE

TRADE SAMMY TO LA, NYI, OR ATL FOR A 2ND OR 3RD

[ArcticWing 0]

trade malts, kop, lebs for Milan Lucic

Boston ain't run by complete idiots. Lucic is worth much much more, they wouldn't make the trade even if you would trough Sammy there as well there.

Edited November 4, 2008 by ArcticWing

[Offsides 21]

I would re-sign Fedorov and Shanahan...because I am Holland and I like to re-sign people.

[frederick9125 0]

malts, kop, sammy, lebs, 1st and 2nd for lucic, 4th and 5th.

we do better with later picks anyway

[Chase 0]

I would do nothing other than leave Meech in for a few more games to see how he plays.

We're 8-2-2 and playing no where near our potential yet... But I wouldn't go changing the make-up of this team just 12 games into the season... geesh...

[glasgowcelticwing 18]

Hossa - Datsyuk - Holmstrom

Hudler - Zetterberg - Franzen

Cleary - Filpulla - Helm

Abdelkader - Draper - Kopecky

Lidstrom - Rafalski

Kronwall - Stuart

Ericsson - Chelios

Osgood

Conklin

this is the team i'd want if I was Holland. we've got a solid team thats just needing a little tweeking we don't need any trades. just use what we have........ although , I'd bring back Fedorov if I got a chance and put him on the second line with Zetterberg and Franzen.

[Louisville 112]

I want whatever drugs some of you people are taking.

Kopecky for Chris Neil, that's going to make me randomly burst out in laughter for the rest of the day.