Phazon 24 Report post Posted December 10, 2008 While Hakan Andersson has been stellar with his euro drafting, there are two examples that are missed oppurtunities from the Wings. First of all is Patrik Berglund. He is the real deal in Blues, and I read a story that Wings just missed this guy. Then we have Jacob Markstrom, an outstanding SEL goaltender at 18 years old age. Wings passed him over as well in the 08 draft. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown Red Wings 245 Report post Posted December 10, 2008 Yeah, we also didn't win the Cup in '99, 2000, 2001, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, and 2007? I'm gonna go be a Predators fan now. There's no excuse for that, especially not getting the cup in 2005. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phazon 24 Report post Posted December 10, 2008 Yeah, we also didn't win the Cup in '99, 2000, 2001, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, and 2007? I'm gonna go be a Predators fan now. There's no excuse for that, especially not getting the cup in 2005. If you dont want to contribute anything to the discussion, then dont post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mindfly Report post Posted December 10, 2008 (edited) Did we have a pick earlier than 25th overall in 2006? I agree, i would pick Markström over McCollum every day of the week, McCollum was 30th overall and Markström 31st, we could have picked him instead Edited December 10, 2008 by mindfly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rice 42 Report post Posted December 10, 2008 If I recall correctly, the Wings wanted Berglund in the '06 draft. The Wings had the #29 pick and traded it to Phoenix for two second rounders almost immediately after Berglund was selected. They ended up drafting Emmerton and Matthias in the second round. Can't blame them for not getting Berglund... the Blues just picked him first. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 308 Report post Posted December 10, 2008 If I recall correctly, the Wings wanted Berglund in the '06 draft. The Wings had the #29 pick and traded it to Phoenix for two second rounders almost immediately after Berglund was selected. They ended up drafting Emmerton and Matthias in the second round. Can't blame them for not getting Berglund... the Blues just picked him first. What do you mean, it is their fault, definitely their fault for not picking a guy that got picked before they ever had a chance at him! I blame the Wings front office for not drafting Crosby, Ovechkin, and Malkin! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z Winged Dangler 2,082 Report post Posted December 10, 2008 my favorite player is zetterberg...a swede, but the wings also need gritty skilled canadians on the team...like darren helm. the wings drafting is tops in the league and has been for a long time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lets go pavel 2 Report post Posted December 10, 2008 While Hakan Andersson has been stellar with his euro drafting, there are two examples that are missed oppurtunities from the Wings. First of all is Patrik Berglund. He is the real deal in Blues, and I read a story that Wings just missed this guy. Then we have Jacob Markstrom, an outstanding SEL goaltender at 18 years old age. Wings passed him over as well in the 08 draft. Okay, so we're not perfect. Isn't that a no-brainer? Obviously someone we didn't pick at some point is going to be better than someone we did pick. I think we are widely considered to have the best scouting and drafting in the league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thedatsyukian 7 Report post Posted December 10, 2008 If they don't draft Hedman next year, I'm done with the wings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
finalfilppula 2 Report post Posted December 10, 2008 we're not going to pick every future superstar. be content with what he have already. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chunkylover 26 Report post Posted December 10, 2008 Actually, the "great Swedish drafting" is so called because of who they find in the seventh round not the first or second. Everyone knows about a player going in the first round. Our European scouting is the envy of the league not because we draft Ovechkin at number one, but because we draft Zetterberg at number 210. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted December 10, 2008 (edited) Actually, the "great Swedish drafting" is so called because of who they find in the seventh round not the first or second. Everyone knows about a player going in the first round. Our European scouting is the envy of the league not because we draft Ovechkin at number one, but because we draft Zetterberg at number 210. And it's too early to say yet, but if Ericsson lives up to his potential he would be a huge find, as he was the last player drafted in 2002 at 291st overall. Edited December 10, 2008 by haroldsnepsts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phazon 24 Report post Posted December 10, 2008 I blame the Wings front office for not drafting Crosby, Ovechkin, and Malkin! how is it even the same? Berglund was a late 1st rounder pick, and Markstrom was 2nd round. These are picks wings have a chance to get. Wings have no chance for a top10 pick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted December 10, 2008 If I recall correctly, the Wings wanted Berglund in the '06 draft. The Wings had the #29 pick and traded it to Phoenix for two second rounders almost immediately after Berglund was selected. They ended up drafting Emmerton and Matthias in the second round. Can't blame them for not getting Berglund... the Blues just picked him first. +1 Says all that's needed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 308 Report post Posted December 10, 2008 how is it even the same? Berglund was a late 1st rounder pick, and Markstrom was 2nd round. These are picks wings have a chance to get. Wings have no chance for a top10 pick. BERGLUND WAS DRAFTED BEFORE THE WINGS EVER SELECTED!! 25th that year, and as already stated the wings had the 29th selection, you do see how a 1st pick or 2nd or a 25th are all before 29 right? That is how it is the same, Ovechkin was selected before the Wings ever picked same with Malkin and Crosby. Once he was off the table the Wings traded their pick for 2 in the later round to Pho. Because you made a post without thinking or researching it don't blame me for pointing out the facts that you overlooked/forgot/didn't look up. If you are going to complain about the wings at least do it in a indisputable way so I can't point out the ignorant ways of your post!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted December 10, 2008 my favorite player is zetterberg...a swede, but the wings also need gritty skilled canadians on the team...like darren helm. the wings drafting is tops in the league and has been for a long time. Please explain to me why the Wings need gritty skilled Canadians on the team? The team was heavily European last year and that didn't stop them from winning. While Helm helped the cause last year, I doubt the outcome of the playoffs would have been much different had he not played. I'm not saying a good balance isn't helpful, but these types of comments are heavily over-exeggerated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted December 10, 2008 how is it even the same? Berglund was a late 1st rounder pick, and Markstrom was 2nd round. These are picks wings have a chance to get. Wings have no chance for a top10 pick. Rule #1. You're an idiot. What do you not understand about Berglund being drafted before the Wings had their first pick? As for Markstrom, who cares? ONE guy? Are you aware that the Wings also had several cracks at guys like...whats his name? Zetterberg? And that other guy...Datsyuk? Just because you know a player is good doesn't mean you choose him immediately. There is strategy involved that you and I aren't aware of. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrossoverThrash 0 Report post Posted December 10, 2008 We missed Enstrom and Edler too, but i think there was a reason for both stated in articles somewhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_redwing 495 Report post Posted December 10, 2008 If you dont want to contribute anything to the discussion, then dont post. +1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted December 10, 2008 We also should have drafted Forsberg. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mindfly Report post Posted December 10, 2008 Doggy: Just stop it, Forsberg is one of the best swedish players of all time whose career ended way to early due to injuries, he's like Lindros but better. Show some respect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 308 Report post Posted December 10, 2008 Doggy: Just stop it, Forsberg is one of the best swedish players of all time whose career ended way to early due to injuries, he's like Lindros but better. Show some respect. His career is over, since when? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown Red Wings 245 Report post Posted December 10, 2008 If you dont want to contribute anything to the discussion, then dont post. Point being, of course they could have done better. Think they wouldn't have rather drafted Jagr over Primeau in hindsight? Just thought it was a bit nit-picky is all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grsbmd 0 Report post Posted December 10, 2008 Then we have Jacob Markstrom, an outstanding SEL goaltender at 18 years old age. Wings passed him over as well in the 08 draft. Yeah, but we have Tom McCollum, an outstanding OHL goaltender at 19 of age, so what's your point? The Red Wings had their choice between the two and decided that McCollum was the better goaltender. We don't have to draft a player just because they're Swedish. Anyway, I'm sure the Red Wings stand behind their decision, as they've already signed McCollum (and the Red Wings rarely sign a player before his old contract runs out, and McCollum's had a few more years left), so I think that speaks volumes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mindfly Report post Posted December 10, 2008 His career is over, since when? Trust me, he's been working with his feet for three years and they have come up with nothing, if he makes a comeback.. again, it will probably be "EPIC FAIL" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites