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2009 FIA Formula One World Championship Season

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3) Race starts 5AM ET for you guys on Sunday(noon for me,Red Wings' Western Canada/West Coast road games start 5-5.30AM),who's going to watch? Surely Commodore183 will?

You bet I will :D I've been getting up early for F1 races for a few years now, so it isn't any real problem for me.

And of note from this weekend's race:

Brawn GP’s Rubens Barrichello has been handed a penalty by the Sepang race stewards after his car needed a new gearbox following Friday practice for this weekend’s Malaysian Grand Prix. Barrichello will drop five places on the grid as a result of the change.

http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2009/4/9128.html

The regulations state that the gearbox must last 4 race weekends.

And now the Driver's points standings after the first race (unofficial until after 14 April :P)

1) Jenson Button, Brawn-Mercedes: 10

2) Rubens Barrichello, Brawn-Mercedes: 8

3) Jarno Trulli, Toyota: 6

4) Timo Glock, Toyota: 5

5) Fernando Alonso, Renault: 4

6) Nico Rosberg, Williams-Toyota: 3

7) Sebastien Buemi, Toro Rosso-Ferrari: 2

8) Sebastien Bourdais, Toro Rosso-Ferrari: 1

9) Adrian Sutil, Force India-Mercedes: 0

10) Nick Heidfeld, BMW Sauber: 0

11) Giancarlo Fisichella, Force India-Mercedes: 0

12) Mark Webber, Red Bull-Renault: 0

13) Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull-Renault: 0

14) Robert Kubica, BMW Sauber: 0

15) Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari: 0

16) Felipe Massa, Ferrari: 0

17) Nelson Piquet, Renault: 0

18) Kazuki Nakajima, Williams-Toyota: 0

19) Heikki Kovalainen, McLaren-Mercedes: 0

20) Lewis Hamilton, McLaren-Mercedes: 0

Constructor's Points (unofficial until after 14 April :P)

1) Brawn-Mercedes: 18

2) Toyota: 11

3) Renault: 4

4) Williams-Toyota: 3

5) Toro Rosso-Ferrari: 3

6) Force India-Mercedes: 0

7) BMW Sauber: 0

8) Red Bull-Renault: 0

9) Ferrari: 0

10) McLaren-Mercedes: 0

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As the wheel turns in this soap opera called Formula One...

Lewis Hamilton faces the threat of suspension or disqualification from the F1 World Championship after he was accused of 'deliberately misleading' the FIA race stewards...

However, the situation contravenes the International Sporting Code and is viewed as so grave that the FIA have it within their power to pursue the matter further.

A FIA spokesperson confirmed: "Given the seriousness of this matter, we cannot rule out further action at this stage."

As Hamilton has been excluded from the race at Melbourne's Albert Park, should motor sport's world governing body take up the case, only two additional punishments are open to them.

One would be to suspend Hamilton from a further race or races, or alternatively they could disqualify him from the Championship altogether.

When was the last time someone was disqualified from a season in F1? I know the Tyrrell team was nailed about a controversy about their water system back in the 70s/80s, but I can't recall any other situation.

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If he gets any further punishment expect huge backlash.

And I dont get this whole defuser issue thats going on, but if it means the lesser teams are doing well now I hope nothing changes. Knowing F1 they'll bend over to the big 3 teams who won be happy at whats going on.

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Qualifying results (highlight to read):

1) Jenson Button, Brawn-Mercedes

2) Jarno Trulli, Toyota

3) Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull-Renault

4) Rubens Barrichello, Brawn-Mercedes

5) Timo Glock, Toyota

6) Nico Rosberg, Williams-Toyota

7) Mark Webber, Red Bull-Renault

8) Robert Kubica, BMW Sauber

9) Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari

10) Fernando Alonso, Renault

11) Nick Heidfeld, BMW Sauber

12) Kazuki Nakajima, Williams-Toyota

13) Lewis Hamilton, McLaren-Mercedes

14) Heikki Kovalainen, McLaren-Mercedes

15) Sebastien Bourdais, Toro Rosso-Ferrari

16) Felipe Massa, Ferrari

17) Nelson Piquet Jr, Renault

18) Giancarlo Fisichella, Force India-Mercedes

19) Adrian Sutil, Force India-Mercedes

20) Sebastien Buemi, Toro Rosso-Ferrari

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Not to side-track things, but is it me, or does the attendance for every F1 race weekend in Sepang seem sparse?

Seems every year there are alot of empty seats...Not that Bernie, & Max care; as long as they get their millions :rolleyes:

And to think there isn't a race in N. America :thumbdown:

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Race results (highlight to read):

1) Jenson Button, Brawn-Mercedes

2) Nick Heidfeld, BMW Sauber

3) Timo Glock, Toyota

4) Jarno Trulli, Toyota

5) Rubens Barrichello, Brawn-Mercedes

6) Mark Webber, Red Bull-Renault

7) Lewis Hamilton, McLaren-Mercedes

8) Nico Rosberg, Williams-Toyota

9) Felipe Massa, Ferrari

10) Sebastien Bourdais, Toro Rosso-Ferrari

11) Fernando Alonso, Renault

12) Kazuki Nakajima, Williams-Toyota

13) Nelson Piquet, Renault

14) Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari

15) Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull-Renault

16) Sebastien Buemi, Toro Rosso-Ferrari

17) Adrian Sutil, Force India-Mercedes

18) Giancarlo Fisichella, Force India-Mercedes

19) Robert Kubica, BMW Sauber

20) Heikki Kovalainen, McLaren-Mercedes

The race was cut short due to rain before the 75% mark of the race, so half points will be awarded. I'll post the points later when I'm not as tired as I am now :P

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World Driver Points (highlight to read):

1) Jenson Button, Brawn-Mercedes: 15

2) Rubens Barrichello, Brawn-Mercedes: 10

3) Jarno Trulli, Toyota: 8.5

4) Timo Glock, Toyota: 8

5) Nick Heidfeld, BMW Sauber: 4

6) Fernando Alonso, Renault: 4

7) Nico Rosberg, Williams-Toyota: 3.5

8) Sebastien Buemi, Toro Rosso-Ferrari: 2

9) Mark Webber, Red Bull-Renault: 1.5

10) Lewis Hamilton, McLaren-Mercedes: 1

11) Sebastien Bourdais, Toro Rosso-Ferrari: 1

12) Adrian Sutil, Force India-Mercedes: 0

13) Felipe Massa, Ferrari: 0

14) Giancarlo Fisichella, Force India-Mercedes: 0

15) Kazuki Nakajima, Williams-Toyota: 0

16) Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull-Renault: 0

17) Nelson Piquet Jr, Renault: 0

18) Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari: 0

19) Robert Kubica, BMW Sauber: 0

20) Heikki Kovalainen, McLaren-Mercedes: 0

World Constructor's Points (highlight to read):

1) Brawn-Mercedes: 25

2) Toyota: 16.5

3) BMW Sauber: 4

4) Renault: 4

5) Williams-Toyota: 3.5

6) Toro Rosso-Ferrari: 3

7) Red Bull-Renault: 1.5

8) McLaren-Mercedes: 1

9) Force India-Mercedes: 0

10) Ferrari: 0

Next Race will the the Chinese Grand Prix on April 19th.

On April 14th, the International Court of Appeals will hear the appeals from Ferrari, Red Bull, Renault, and BMW Sauber over the design of the diffusers from the Brawn, Toyota, and Williams teams. The protests involve the diffusers having more volume due to taking advantage of a gray area in the rules regarding the diffuser and the rear crash structure.

If the ICoA rules the diffusers legal, then the matter will end and the other teams may try to come up with a trick diffuser like Toyota, Brawn, and Williams. Not sure of the decision can be appealed further, though.

If the ICoA rules the diffusers illegal, then one of several things can happen:

*The three teams (Brawn, Toyota, and Williams) will be disqualified from the fist two races

*The results from the first two races will remain unchanged, but there may be a point deduction

*Like the mass damper issue from a few years ago, nothing will happen to past race results or the points

I'm sure there are other options that can be exercised, but that's all I have at the top of my head.

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McLaren called to appear before the WMSC

The FIA has released the following statement:

"Vodafone McLaren Mercedes has been invited to appear before an extraordinary meeting of the FIA World Motor Sport Council in Paris on Wednesday, 29 April, 2009, to answer charges that, in breach of Article 151c of the International Sporting Code, it

- on 29 March, 2009, told the stewards of the Australian Grand Prix that no instructions were given to Hamilton in Car No. 1 to allow Trulli in Car no. 9 to pass when both cars were behind the safety car, knowing this statement to be untrue;

- procured its driver Hamilton the current World Champion, to support and confirm this untrue statement to the stewards;

- although knowing that as a direct result of its untrue statement to the stewards, another driver and a rival team had been unfairly penalised, made no attempt to rectify the situation either by contacting the FIA or otherwise;

- on 2 April, 2009, at a second hearing before the stewards of the Australian Grand Prix, (meeting in Malaysia) made no attempt to correct the untrue statement of 29 March but, on the contrary, continued to maintain that the statement was true, despite being allowed to listen to a recording of the team instructing Hamilton to let Trulli past and despite being given more than one opportunity to correct its false statement;

- on 2 April, 2009, at the second stewards' hearing, procured its driver Hamilton to continue to assert the truth of the false statement given to the stewards on 29 March, while knowing that what he was saying to the stewards was not true."

And in true Obama-like fashion, McLaren threw someone under the bus regarding this case:

This morning, Dave Ryan was suspended from his position as sporting director of the Vodafone McLaren Mercedes team.

McLaren's press release on Dave Ryan's involvement in Australia GP controversy

McLaren's press release regarding the WMSC's invitation

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Legal

The FIA International Court of Appeal (ICA) has rejected protests against the diffusers used by the Brawn, Toyota and Williams teams, after concluding that their ‘double decker’ designs comply with the 2009 regulations.

The matter is now closed. On to Shanghai!

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Ferrari ditched the Kers system,and from speed's coverage of practise last night it seems as though Renault has ditched it as well.However Ferrari's straight line speed doesn't seem to be affected as Massa hit 195 mph at the end of the longest straight.Until Ferrari and the other usual contenders can re-design their cars with the diffusers it'll be a runaway for the Brawn GP team.Was anybody else surprised about Sutil's time last night,he was 11th overall,and beat out big names like Massa,Raikinen,Hamilton,and Alonso,while his teamate was 20th.Bmw seemed to be struggling as they are over 1.8 seconds back of Button.I guess this track,seeing as how fast it is,will show how much more the diffusers mean at higher speeds.

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hell yeah Alonso 2nd :D :D he will win tomorrow

No. One of the red bulls will take it. If not, then Button is going to steal in for the win. The tables have been turned this season and its ******* awesome!

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Don't think so! Alonso is the best pilot there is and he can do it tomorrow, i am sure he will win :D or at least be in the first 3 positions

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Qualifying results:

1) Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull-Renault

2) Fernando Alonso, Renault

3) Mark Webber, Red Bull-Renault

4) Rubens Barrichello, Brawn-Mercedes

5) Jenson Button, Brawn-Mercedes

6) Jarno Trulli, Toyota

7) Nico Rosberg, Williams-Toyota

8) Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari

9) Lewis Hamilton, McLaren-Mercedes

10) Sebastien Buemi, Toro Rosso-Ferrari

11) Nick Heidfeld, BMW Sauber

12) Heikki Kovalainen, McLaren-Mercedes

13) Felipe Massa, Ferrari

14) Timo Glock, Toyota

15) Kazuki Nakajima, Williams-Toyota

16) Sebastien Bourdais, Toro Rosso-Ferrari

17) Nelsin Piquet Jr, Renault

18) Robert Kubica, BMW Sauber

19) Adrian Sutil, Force India-Mercedes

20) Giancarlo Fisichella, Force India-Mercedes

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No. One of the red bulls will take it. If not, then Button is going to steal in for the win. The tables have been turned this season and its ******* awesome!

Hell yehs. Who's Alonso? I cant see him on the podium...

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Don't think so! Alonso is the best pilot there is and he can do it tomorrow, i am sure he will win :D or at least be in the first 3 positions

Renaults strategy of starting him really light really bit them when it started under a safety car.Anybody else surprised at the fact that Massa drove competently in the rain,as he normally forgets how to drive and careens off course 6 or 7 times.He was looking good until the car quit on him.How about Kubica driving over the back of Trullei.That was awesome,couldn't see him and just ploughed into him,lucky he didn't fly right over top of him.

In the end one of my boys(Vettel) won the race for his 2nd win in the rain,and scores team red bull's victory and pole in the same weekend(for the record he did the same thing with their sister team,Torro Rosso last season).

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Race Results:

1) Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull-Renault

2) Mark Webber, Red Bull-Renault

3) Jenson Button, Brawn-Mercedes

4) Rubens Barrichello, Brawn-Mercedes

5) Heikki Kovalainen, McLaren-Mercedes

6) Lewis Hamilton, McLaren-Mercedes

7) Timo Glock, Toyota

8) Sebastian Buemi, Toro Rosso-Ferrari

9) Fernando Alonso, Renault

10) Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari

11) Sebastien Bourdais, Toro Rosso-Ferrari

12) Nick Heidfeld, BMW Sauber

13) Robert Kubica, BMW Sauber

14) Giancarlo Fisichella, Force India-Mercedes

15) Nico Rosberg, Williams-Toyota

16) Nelson Piquet Jr, Renault

17) Adrian Sutil, Force India-Mercedes (Accident)

Ret) Kazuki Nakajima, Williams-Toyota (Transmission)

Ret) Felipe Massa, Ferrari (Electrical)

Ret) Jarno Trulli, Toyota (Accident damage)

Driver's Championship Standings:

1) Jenson Button, 21

2) Rubens Barrichello, 15

3) Sebastian Vettel, 10

4) Timo Glock, 10

5) Mark Webber, 9.5

6) Jarno Trulli, 8.5

7) Nick Heidfeld, 4

8) Fernando Alonso, 4

9) Heikki Kovalainen, 4

10) Lewis Hamilton, 4

11) Nico Rosberg, 3.5

12) Sebastien Buemi, 3

13) Sebastien Bourdais, 1

14) Adrian Sutil, 0

15) Felipe Massa, 0

16) Kimi Raikkonen, 0

17) Giancarlo Fisichella, 0

18) Kazuki Nakajima, 0

19) Robert Kubica, 0

20) Nelson Piquet Jr, 0

Constructor's Championship Standings:

1) Brawn-Mercedes, 36

2) Red Bull-Renault, 19.5

3) Toyota, 18.5

4) McLaren-Mercedes, 8

5) BMW Sauber, 4

6) Renault, 4

7) Toro Rosso-Ferrari, 4

8) Williams-Toyota, 3.5

9) Ferrari, 0

10) Force India-Mercedes, 0

Next race: Bahrain Grand Prix on Sunday, April 26th.

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Renaults strategy of starting him really light really bit them when it started under a safety car.Anybody else surprised at the fact that Massa drove competently in the rain,as he normally forgets how to drive and careens off course 6 or 7 times.He was looking good until the car quit on him.How about Kubica driving over the back of Trullei.That was awesome,couldn't see him and just ploughed into him,lucky he didn't fly right over top of him.

In the end one of my boys(Vettel) won the race for his 2nd win in the rain,and scores team red bull's victory and pole in the same weekend(for the record he did the same thing with their sister team,Torro Rosso last season).

That Vettel kid has got some real talent; arguably 1 of the best when all things are equal (such as wet track conditions)...What are they feeding these kids in Germany?

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Bahrain Results:

1) Jenson Button, Brawn-Mercedes

2) Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull-Renault

3) Jarno Trulli, Toyota

4) Lewis Hamilton, Mclaren-Mercedes

5) Rubens Barrichello, Brawn-Mercedes

6) Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari

7) Timo Glock, Toyota

8) Fernando Alonso, Renault

9) Nico Rosberg, Williams-Toyota

10) Nelson Piquet Jr, Renault

11) Mark Webber, RedBull-Renault

12) Heikki Kovalainen, McLaren-Mercedes

13) Sebastien Bourdais, Toro Rosso-Ferrari

14) Felipe Massa, Ferrari

15) Giancarlo Fisichella, Force Inda-Mercedes

16) Adrian Sutil, Force India-Mercedes

17) Sebastien Buemi, Toro Rosso-Ferrari

18) Robert Kubica, BMW Sauber

19) Nick Heidfeld, BMW Sauber

Ret) Kazuki Nakajima, Williams-Toyota (Oil pressure)

Driver's Championship Standings:

1) Jenson Button: 31

2) Rubens Barrichello: 19

3) Sebastian Vettel: 18

4) Jarno Trulli: 14.5

5) Timo Glock: 12

6) Mark Webber: 9.5

7) Lewis Hamilton: 9

8) Fernando Alonso: 5

9) Nick Heidfeld: 4

10) Heikki Kovalainen: 4

11) Nico Rosberg: 3.5

12) Kimi Raikkonen: 3

13) Sebastien Buemi: 3

14) Sebastien Bourdais: 1

15) Felipe Massa: 0

16) Adrian Sutil: 0

17) Nelson Piquet Jr: 0

18) Giancarlo Fisichella: 0

19) Kazuki Nakajima: 0

20) Robert Kubica: 0

Constructor's Championship Standings:

1) Brawn-Mercedes: 50

2) Red Bull-Renault: 27.5

3) Toyota: 26.5

4) McLaren-Mercedes: 13

5) Renault: 5

6) BMW Sauber: 4

7) Toro Rosso-Ferrari: 4

8) Williams-Toyota: 3.5

9) Ferrari: 3

10) Force India-Mercedes: 0

McLaren's hearing before the WMSC is April 29th.

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McLaren given a suspended 3 race ban

McLaren have been given a suspended three-race ban for misleading stewards at the Australian Grand Prix by motor sport's governing body, the FIA.

The British team admitted five charges of breaching Formula 1 rules at a special inquiry on Wednesday in Paris.

The penalty will only be enforced upon Lewis Hamilton's team if "further facts emerge" about this incident or if there is a "further breach" of the rules.

McLaren is going to be on their utmost good behavior from now until April next year, I can guarantee you that. Unless they shoot themselves in the foot, again.

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