Heroes of Hockeytown 694 Report post Posted April 8, 2009 I guess the old Downey thread got torpedoed or I'd have put it there, but this interview is worth your time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DatsMyWings13 4 Report post Posted April 8, 2009 It is a nice article and it's too bad about the other thread, I was just getting in to it. Maybe next year we'll get to see more of Downey. Thanks for posting it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_redwing 495 Report post Posted April 8, 2009 Hell yehs! 30 pages of awesomeness coming up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ManLuv4Clears 7 Report post Posted April 8, 2009 Any explanation why the other thread was deleted? Its not like Downey will never be brought up again on the boards, might as well keep all the talk in one spot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_redwing 495 Report post Posted April 8, 2009 Any explanation why the other thread was deleted? Its not like Downey will never be brought up again on the boards, might as well keep all the talk in one spot. Maybe the mods here want the same topic and same arguments to come up time and time again, rather that to have it all in one topic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest micah Report post Posted April 8, 2009 I guess the old Downey thread got torpedoed or I'd have put it there, but this interview is worth your time. The attitude of the guy in that article is the attitude that makes a man go 4 for 4 in fan voting. It's also an attitude that the powers that be don't think there's any room for on this team. Apparently someone who makes decisions thinks that the wings would win less games if Downey were on the 4th line regularily. I can't immagine why they'd think that, but they must. Sucks. He seems like a good guy with a ton of heart, but he ain't getting any younger and he was never a top heavy to begin with. I hope that next year he finds his way onto an NHL club that will keep him in the lineup, whether it be the Wings or someone else. The gladiator mentality that he talks about just isn't a part of Wings hockey. Fancy moves and hoping that the refs and the rules are sufficient from keeping people from bullying them is what Wings management has choosen, and unfortunatley for Downey's career, it's working. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DatsMyWings13 4 Report post Posted April 8, 2009 Maybe the mods here want the same topic and same arguments to come up time and time again, rather that to have it all in one topic. I'm not sure but I think it might be due to the PM that was re posted in the thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest E_S_A_D Report post Posted April 8, 2009 I'm not sure but I think it might be due to the PM that was re posted in the thread. I think that's more accurate. When Opie crossed the line and posted the Private Message publicly that crossed the moderators line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest E_S_A_D Report post Posted April 8, 2009 I guess the old Downey thread got torpedoed or I'd have put it there, but this interview is worth your time. BTW, you're a genius Heroes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wombat 26 Report post Posted April 8, 2009 The attitude of the guy in that article is the attitude that makes a man go 4 for 4 in fan voting. It's also an attitude that the powers that be don't think there's any room for on this team. Apparently someone who makes decisions thinks that the wings would win less games if Downey were on the 4th line regularily. I can't immagine why they'd think that, but they must. Sucks. He seems like a good guy with a ton of heart, but he ain't getting any younger and he was never a top heavy to begin with. I hope that next year he finds his way onto an NHL club that will keep him in the lineup, whether it be the Wings or someone else. The gladiator mentality that he talks about just isn't a part of Wings hockey. Fancy moves and hoping that the refs and the rules are sufficient from keeping people from bullying them is what Wings management has choosen, and unfortunatley for Downey's career, it's working. I think you're a little off-base on this. I don't think that the "powers that be" in the Wings organization look that down on Downey. The main reason Downey has been in GR most of the season is because of the Red Wings' cap situation. The Wings are loathe to lose roster players. Their hand was completely forced in the Quincey situation and I don't think the Wings liked losing a legit NHLer for nothing. And that's the problem up front... the Wings have too many legit NHLers and are completely against the cap. The Wings are also quite loyal, so players like Maltby aren't going to be waived to make room. If memory serves, Downey had to clear waivers and did... so every NHL team already had a chance to add him to their lineup for no cost but his contract. As much as many of us here rag on guys like Maltby and Kopecky among others, I doubt either would pass through waivers unscathed. Note that I'm not arguing against Downey (I like what he adds to the team and wished he had a regular 7-8 minute shift on the 4th line). It's just that the Wings have a lot of nice assets right now and they weren't looking to move any of them, and unfortunately Downey was caught in the numbers game. If anything, I wish they had not resigned McCarty and instead had Downey up all year. what I am arguing is that there is no conspiracy in the Wings front office to crush any sense of fighting out of the team, or to keep Downey down. It's simply how the roster stacked up this year, and if they hadn't been about 63 cents from the cap, we would have seen a lot more up/down from Grand Rapids from Downey/Helm/Leino/Abdelkader/Ericsson, among others. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 308 Report post Posted April 8, 2009 I think that's more accurate. When Opie crossed the line and posted the Private Message publicly that crossed the moderators line. Don't see any rule of the sort here: http://www.letsgowings.com/forums/index.php?act=boardrules Back to the topic. Micah, I don't think Downey's character was ever a problem, concern, or an issue, no one on here was ever comparing him to Steve Downie or Chris Simon. I think it was evident last year that he was a stand up guy, probably no one better to get a beer with (based on the articles about where and how he grew up). The discussion has always been about whether or not we (as fans not the team) want to see him in the lineup. That argument will never die, but it is good that he has such a team first attitude about it. He easily could have been whining and complaining about being in GR or not getting a call up. However I think he realizes the cap situation or it was explained to him by Holland and he for all intense and purposes seems cool with it, even though he still wants to be in the show. OR he is just that easy going off the ice. I do wonder what would have been with this team had Hossa not been signed, do you see a lot more Helm, Leino, Downey, and Ericsson. Who knows, I am glad this team got Hossa, but I am not too sure they would be much further down the standings with out him. But you never know, he could have been what motivated them through the lack luster performances early on. But anyway good read, thanks for the post! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest E_S_A_D Report post Posted April 8, 2009 Don't see any rule of the sort here: http://www.letsgowings.com/forums/index.php?act=boardrules Naw, it's called tact/ class. Don't even reference me anymore Opie. You're on my ignore list as of now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozen-Man 144 Report post Posted April 8, 2009 (edited) That argument will never die, but it is good that he has such a team first attitude about it. He easily could have been whining and complaining about being in GR or not getting a call up. However I think he realizes the cap situation or it was explained to him by Holland and he for all intense and purposes seems cool with it, even though he still wants to be in the show. OR he is just that easy going off the ice. I think he must just have that good of an attitude about the whole thing. The article said he has played 243 games over 9 seasons which averages out to just 27 games a season so I think he must have accepted it a long time ago. I also agree were it not for cap issues he would probably be up more this year (like last year) but he is the one guy on the team that can clear waivers so the other guys have to stay up and he can only be brought up as a luxury. If we had the space I think he would get his 50-60 games and 5 minutes a night but up against the cap it is just no feasible. Great read and he always seems like such great guy. I was however surprised that he only had 18 points in his career (I knew he wasn't an offensive monster but didn't realize it was that low) and that he only had 46 fights - roughly 1 every 5 1/4 games (for example Shanny has 97 - although he has played a lot more games for a lot more seasons). Edited April 8, 2009 by Frozen-Man Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DatsMyWings13 4 Report post Posted April 8, 2009 Naw, it's called tact/ class. Don't even reference me anymore Opie. You're on my ignore list as of now. How does this ignore work? I understand how to put someone on ignore but seeing as I've never done it, I'm curious what it does. Does it remove the ignored users post from all threads that you view? Thanks for any info on this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted April 8, 2009 How does this ignore work? I understand how to put someone on ignore but seeing as I've never done it, I'm curious what it does. Does it remove the ignored users post from all threads that you view? Thanks for any info on this. You have to click on the post to view it. Otherwise it says: You have chosen to ignore all posts from: username. · View this post · Un-ignore username I'd advocate it's usage. It's Person's Profile=>Options=>Ignore User Voila. Works well for relentless trolls. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DatsMyWings13 4 Report post Posted April 8, 2009 You have to click on the post to view it. Otherwise it says: I'd advocate it's usage. It's Person's Profile=>Options=>Ignore User Voila. Works well for relentless trolls. Thanks for the info. I like that you have the option to view the post even if they are on ignore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjlegend 155 Report post Posted April 8, 2009 Sometimes I wonder if this Aaron Downey person would make this team better. Hmmmmm.... if only there were a thread for this .... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted April 8, 2009 You have to click on the post to view it. Otherwise it says: I'd advocate it's usage. It's Person's Profile=>Options=>Ignore User Voila. Works well for relentless trolls. Are you sure those are the correct instructions, because I just followed them, and yet I can still see your post? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 308 Report post Posted April 8, 2009 Naw, it's called tact/ class. Don't even reference me anymore Opie. You're on my ignore list as of now. This from the person whose whole persona on this board is a lie, and now you want to turn it on me. HAHAHAHAHA Maybe for reference people need to see what you wrote me, oh wait your expectation of privacy prevents me from doing that, oh wait no there is no expectation of privacy here. Go ahead ignore me and continue to pretend to be Pro-goon while I and those who read your message know the truth! Facade it is not just the face of a building! BTW I never referenced you until you attacked my stance on enforcers and then I went off on a tirade at you. I think he must just have that good of an attitude about the whole thing. The article said he has played 243 games over 9 seasons which averages out to just 27 games a season so I think he must have accepted it a long time ago. I also agree were it not for cap issues he would probably be up more this year (like last year) but he is the one guy on the team that can clear waivers so the other guys have to stay up and he can only be brought up as a luxury. If we had the space I think he would get his 50-60 games and 5 minutes a night but up against the cap it is just no feasible. Great read and he always seems like such great guy. I was however surprised that he only had 18 points in his career (I knew he wasn't an offensive monster but didn't realize it was that low) and that he only had 46 fights - roughly 1 every 5 1/4 games (for example Shanny has 97 - although he has played a lot more games for a lot more seasons). True, I guess if I were to get the chance to play one shift in the NHL I would be happy as hell and that would be me playing for free! One thing I never questioned with Downey was his character! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StevieY'sguy 1 Report post Posted April 8, 2009 It's a shame Downey isn't on our team, he would bring some toughness that i think the wings would definitely benefit from. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_redwing 495 Report post Posted April 8, 2009 Naw, it's called tact/ class. Don't even reference me anymore Opie. You're on my ignore list as of now. Hes on mine as well Fun stuff. Downey and his attitude and general greatness would definately make this team better. I feel like Ive had this discussion in a thread somewhere else before now...but I cant find it so I must have imagined it. Guess we better have it again! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cnot19 191 Report post Posted April 8, 2009 Hes on mine as well Fun stuff. Downey and his attitude and general greatness would definately make this team better. I feel like Ive had this discussion in a thread somewhere else before now...but I cant find it so I must have imagined it. Guess we better have it again! Indeed that was an epic thread. Now back to the interview. A must read for really any fan who slightly appreciates fighting and the players who do it. DOwney is a great guy no doubt about it. Hopefully we see him in the wings uniform at some point in the postseason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thedisappearer 291 Report post Posted April 9, 2009 (edited) Downey and his attitude and general greatness would definately make this team better. Really? We've had him for two seasons, and we have a President's trophy and a second overall with him havinge little to no regular season impact, and a SC without him lacing up. Not knowing how the playoffs work out this year... how does it "definately" get "better"? I love Downey, but our problems this year are defensive in nature and the man brings nothing to change that to the table. Edited April 9, 2009 by thedisappearer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_redwing 495 Report post Posted April 9, 2009 And so it begins...I reckon we can make 40 pages this time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cnot19 191 Report post Posted April 9, 2009 Ill give it a shot I think Downey could go at least 7 for 7 in fan vote of the game Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
