Guest micah Report post Posted May 27, 2009 The Wings hacky sack ability is underrated. esteef You're underated! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doc Holiday 0 Report post Posted May 27, 2009 Can we have a thread about physical play without there being an argument about goons/enforcers? Micah doesn't like the way this team is made up. You aren't going to change his mind on the issue. Others love the way this team is made up. You aren't going to change their minds on the issue. Can we all just agree to disagree? Forever? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doc Holiday 0 Report post Posted May 27, 2009 (edited) Duble post. Edited May 27, 2009 by Doc Holiday Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Datsyerberger 279 Report post Posted May 27, 2009 I posted this in another thread, but I think it bares repeating: If you seriously have that big of a problem with the Wings not being as "tough" of a team as you want them to be, then its time to cheer for another team. I understand that people like hockey fights (I do too), but not at the expense of smart hockey and winning. The way the current wave of grit-slappies talk about the team and their feelings towards fighting is downright absurd. The problem I have is that every one of the slappies knows the type of team the Wings are and the type of team Holland is going to put together year-after-year as long as it remains successful. Given that you know this is how its going to be going forward either shut the f*ck up or move on to cheering for another squad. My man-love for the day is now focused on you, NFM. Especially that last paragraph. <3 I hope that doesn't creep you out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ms_Hockey 0 Report post Posted May 27, 2009 Pushing, facewashing, and every other little thing that the Wings do post-whistle 99% of the time won't land us in the penalty box. Dropping the gloves and fighting WILL. Honestly, post-whistle scrums aren't just a Detroit thing. Every team does it. If the code of conduct was to fight every time someone facewashed you, hockey would be non-stop fighting - which I'm sure some of you would love. The Wings do what they need to do to get under the opposition's skin while trying their best to stay out of the box. How anybody can honestly criticize them for that is downright hilarious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted May 27, 2009 My man-love for the day is now focused on you, NFM. Especially that last paragraph. <3 I hope that doesn't creep you out. No worries. Even I've had enough of this conversation to last a lifetime. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esteef 2,679 Report post Posted May 27, 2009 No worries. Even I've had enough of this conversation to last a lifetime. Yet, here you are? esteef Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted May 27, 2009 Yet, here you are? esteef .....trying to make a point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esteef 2,679 Report post Posted May 27, 2009 Trying to make a point. Just yankin' yer chain man. esteef Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_redwing 495 Report post Posted May 27, 2009 Pushing, facewashing, and every other little thing that the Wings do post-whistle 99% of the time won't land us in the penalty box. Dropping the gloves and fighting WILL. Remove the instigator rule, and they'd find themselves in more than a penatly box. Ive gone all meh on this subject. Whilst the regular season was about as much fun to watch as wind erosion on a rock, we seem to be well on the way to success in the playoffs, and I guess thats all that matters... I just want to see some fights is all. Me likes 'em you see Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ms_Hockey 0 Report post Posted May 27, 2009 Remove the instigator rule, and they'd find themselves in more than a penatly box. Ive gone all meh on this subject. Whilst the regular season was about as much fun to watch as wind erosion on a rock, we seem to be well on the way to success in the playoffs, and I guess thats all that matters... I just want to see some fights is all. Me likes 'em you see I hear you. Believe me, I do. But everybody likes to criticize the Wings for this. It's not really the Wings that are making it this way - it's the league. And the Wings are following the new rules that are being instituted and getting ridiculed for it. THAT confuses me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozen-Man 144 Report post Posted May 27, 2009 Remove the instigator rule, and they'd find themselves in more than a penatly box. Ive gone all meh on this subject. Whilst the regular season was about as much fun to watch as wind erosion on a rock, we seem to be well on the way to success in the playoffs, and I guess thats all that matters... I just want to see some fights is all. Me likes 'em you see I appreciate the fact that you say that it comes down to the fact that you like to watch fights in a hockey game, and can do it without ripping/dumping on all the players on the roster. I love to watch hockey fights and wish there was a guy like Shanny on the team (I loved the Irish jig after he pummeled someone) but enjoy the skill/passion/intensity that the current Wings play with as well, until they happen to land another guy like Shanny I will just thuroughly enjoy watching all the skill that this team possesses and then flip over to a Flyer's or Duck's game (or Youtube it later) to enjoy seeing a less skilled team drop the gloves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted May 27, 2009 The Wings arent tough, but they are gritty, and come the postseason, they hit, and often. I'd love to see more fights during the regular season, and if it's at the cost of frickin Kopeckys spot, it couldnt hurt us. But even if they dont, thats fine too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest micah Report post Posted May 27, 2009 Pushing, facewashing, and every other little thing that the Wings do post-whistle 99% of the time won't land us in the penalty box. Dropping the gloves and fighting WILL. So what? A couple guys go off for coincidental majors. Honestly, post-whistle scrums aren't just a Detroit thing. Every team does it. If the code of conduct was to fight every time someone facewashed you, hockey would be non-stop fighting - which I'm sure some of you would love. If the code of conduct was to fight everytime someone facewashed you, Maltby would quietly skate to the bench like the wuss he is. The Wings do what they need to do to get under the opposition's skin while trying their best to stay out of the box. How anybody can honestly criticize them for that is downright hilarious. Because some of them are paper tiger candyasses, that's why:) The fact that other teams do it doesn't make it okay for our guys to do. If all the other teams jumped off a bridge.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest micah Report post Posted May 28, 2009 I hear you. Believe me, I do. But everybody likes to criticize the Wings for this. It's not really the Wings that are making it this way - it's the league. And the Wings are following the new rules that are being instituted and getting ridiculed for it. THAT confuses me. The Wings get singled out for good reason - they consistantly fight less than any other team in the league. Fighting is up leaguewise over the last two years. Blaming the league is a copout. The Wings could fight as much as the average team if they chose to....but they don't, because they. are. soft. I still love them, but it isn't wrong to call them soft. Fighting is no more penalised than it ever was, instigating is. Don't blame the big bad league for the fact that the Wings refuse to fight, blame the Wings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
