10/27 GDT: Red Wings 5 at Canucks 4

[OsGOD 3]

They didn't get divorced, but there was a rumor that he was having troubles with his marriage.

It isn't always perfect in the home.

Ah i see, it would suck if they had to split... i wonder who would get his house... its such a pretty thang! i would miss driving by it on the way home from work every day!!!!

there was also rumors he was a druggy and alchy. Alas nobody but he himself knows the real reason for the time off. All we as fans should care about his he came back and took us to the last possible game of the finals. Personal stuff should be none of our concern.

Edited October 29, 2009 by OsGOD

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

Nothing more then a parellel to "our" legal system. he is the lawyer collecting the pay and making sure things are finished up correctly... J-Ho is the paralegal who does all the paralegal dirty work.

Its called, why bother with the s*** jobs when you can pawn it off on others and just work on the important things. and FYI he did a bang up job last years playoffs (didn't hear you complaining) when he had a s***ty regular season.

The moral of this story is... to many people are focused on the "how you get there aspect" when all that really matters is that "you get there and how you finsh" The path will be forgotten if you end on a high note! (save of course a video highlight/lowlight compilation that gets put to music on a DVD for resale)

I'm fairly confident neither Ozzie, nor Babs feels this way.

Yes, the number one focus is how you finish, but that doesn't mean its ok to be garbage (I'm *not* saying he is) leading up to it.

[OsGOD 3]

I'm fairly confident neither Ozzie, nor Babs feels this way.

Yes, the number one focus is how you finish, but that doesn't mean its ok to be garbage (I'm *not* saying he is) leading up to it.

why bust your ass and tucker yourself out when the real season is what really matters.

I never heard the wings EVER use the excuse they were just too gassed to continue... yet i heard that plenty of times last run. Perhaps they are all playing with a little less effort to conserve for the real run about 72 games from now. Which i have no problem with... it got old watching and knowing they were going to win every game. now it adds a little spice in our lives and makes the games more fun to watch. I enjoy the diversity on the ice as well as the way it affects people on here.

Edited October 29, 2009 by OsGOD

[Z and D for the C 712]

The way Ozzie seems to be playing at some points (he HAS played really well, I know he has the potential to is and one of the best goalies come playoff time), particularly last night, we're not going to get into the playoffs, unless Howard has an amazing rookie year. There is a difference between not giving 100% and being the worst goalie in the league.

Plus, believe it or not, fans like to see their teams win games, and last time I checked, fans are the ones playing player's salaries. I WANT ozzie to be good enough to win games whether it matters or not in the end.

Edited October 29, 2009 by Z and D for the C

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

why bust your ass and tucker yourself out when the real season is what really matters.

I never heard the wings EVER use the excuse they were just too gassed to continue... yet i heard that plenty of times last run. Perhaps they are all playing with a little less effort to conserve for the real run about 72 games from now. Which i have no problem with... it got old watching and knowing they were going to win every game. now it adds a little spice in our lives and makes the games more fun to watch. I enjoy the diversity on the ice as well as the way the losses affect people on here.

Tire yourself, that I understand. Not busting your ass to play well when you're paid to do exactly that, that I don't.

Lastly, I certainly don't care for losing nor do I enjoy the so-called "spice" it adds to our lives. In fact, its annoying to see people freak out over something as trivial as a few Wings losses or a slow start, but I digress. I fully understand its not realistic to assume the Wings will lead the standings year-in and year-out even though they sure seem to have had not much trouble doing such the past few years, and if anything I'm on here telling people to relax more than I should be.

As I said in my previous post, I don't need nor expect Oz to be playing at the highest level he ever has throughout all 82 games and the postseason, that's not realistic. I do expect him to atleast be a little more solid than he has been. That's not a far-fetched request some are making it out to be.

[Guest mindfly]

why bust your ass and tucker yourself out when the real season is what really matters.

I never heard the wings EVER use the excuse they were just too gassed to continue... yet i heard that plenty of times last run. Perhaps they are all playing with a little less effort to conserve for the real run about 72 games from now. Which i have no problem with... it got old watching and knowing they were going to win every game. now it adds a little spice in our lives and makes the games more fun to watch. I enjoy the diversity on the ice as well as the way it affects people on here.

With the way Osgood has been playing thus far red wings might not even make the playoffs (yes it's true) so it would be a huge embarassment if that happens... so he must play solid during regular season.

[OsGOD 3]

People are freaking out way to much over 10 games and ready to far into it... Even at the rate ozzie is playing we will still make the playoffs. Perhaps that means the rest of the players have to raise their game up. Perhaps the defense needs to bust their ass and stop sucking like they have been consistently for the last year and half (or however long that s***ty D-man turned ass-co McCrimmon has been here)

Nothing i have seen ozzie do this season makes me think we are at all concernced about missing the playoffs.

Is vancouver effectively out of the playoffs... because Luongo played like pure s*** too that game (giving up 5 goals) Something tells me they will be in the thick of the race come april despite Luongos nights of absolute letdowns.

and i once again state... watching each game not knowing if they will win or not is WAY MORE EXCITING then going into the games knowing the outcome will be a win. It stretches the spectrum of emotion by magnifing it. What the point of getting upset during the game if you knew they would win every game. Now you have to rise and fall with every minute of the game. Will the wings come back tonight in the 3rd like they did so many times in the years past??? OMG i don't know maybe they wont... EXCITING TO WATCH!

Edited October 29, 2009 by OsGOD

[Guest mindfly]

People are freaking out way to much over 10 games and ready to far into it... Even at the rate ozzie is playing we will still make the playoffs. Perhaps that means the rest of the players have to raise their game up. Perhaps the defense needs to bust their ass and stop sucking like they have been consistently for the last year and half (or however long that s***ty D-man turned ass-co McCrimmon has been here)

Nothing i have seen ozzie do this season makes me think we are at all concernced about missing the playoffs.

Is vancouver effectively out of the playoffs... because Luongo played like pure s*** too that game (giving up 5 goals) Something tells me they will be in the thick of the race come april despite Luongos nights of absolute letdowns.

and i once again state... watching each game not knowing if they will win or not is WAY MORE EXCITING then going into the games knowing the outcome will be a win. It stretches the spectrum of emotion by magnifing it. What the point of getting upset during the game if you knew they would win every game. Now you have to rise and fall with every minute of the game. Will the wings come back tonight in the 3rd like they did so many times in the years past??? OMG i don't know maybe they wont... EXCITING TO WATCH!

They are in the winning business and fans want to see their team win every game, i would gladly watch wings go 82-0-0 winning every game by 5 goals, that would be loads of fun imo.... guess we have different point of views...

[OsGOD 3]

They are in the winning business and fans want to see their team win every game, i would gladly watch wings go 82-0-0 winning every game by 5 goals, that would be loads of fun imo.... guess we have different point of views...

I am fairly confident you wouldn't be around here if you had to live through the 80's being a fan of a winning team is safe, cool, and effortless.. Being a fan of a losing team is hard and takes effort, and is sometime hard to talk about and brag about to other people

So what you are saying is as the wings start to wind down their winning ways, we can expect you to jump ship to the next shiney winning team? I hear colorado is doing pretty well this season... you are probably equidistant from them as you are the wings... Maybe a new winning team for you soon?

Note: for being a fan of winning YOU SURE AS HELL PREDICT THEM TO LOSE A LOT... 100% of the time?!

Edited October 29, 2009 by OsGOD

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

People are freaking out way to much over 10 games and ready to far into it... Even at the rate ozzie is playing we will still make the playoffs. Perhaps that means the rest of the players have to raise their game up. Perhaps the defense needs to bust their ass and stop sucking like they have been consistently for the last year and half (or however long that s***ty D-man turned ass-co McCrimmon has been here)

First and foremost, you're not talking to one of those people, so for our debate's sake let's leave these comments out of it because they hold no water. No one (especially me) is denying the fact that the rest of team, especially the team defense needs to step, but that's no excuse for Ozzie to be playing poorly, just like its no excuse for the defense to be playing poorly.

Nothing i have seen ozzie do this season makes me think we are at all concernced about missing the playoffs.

Nor have I. That's not the point.

Is vancouver effectively out of the playoffs... because Luongo played like pure s*** too that game (giving up 5 goals) Something tells me they will be in the thick of the race come april despite Luongos nights of absolute letdowns.

and i once again state... watching each game not knowing if they will win or not is WAY MORE EXCITING then going into the games knowing the outcome will be a win. It stretches the spectrum of emotion by magnifing it. What the point of getting upset during the game if you knew they would win every game. Now you have to rise and fall with every minute of the game. Will the wings come back tonight in the 3rd like they did so many times in the years past??? OMG i don't know maybe they wont... EXCITING TO WATCH!

I'm glad that you find it exciting to not know what's going to happen each and every night. I get that *you* find it more exciting but some of us prefer to see the Wings dominate night-in and night-out as consistently as they have. It doesn't make it wrong nor does it mean you have a more well-rounded perspective on things then fans who came on board during the mid 90's. I became a fan in the late 80's myself, and I'd much prefer to see the Wings play as they have over the past 18 years than the way they did the 5 years before that.

OsGod, I'm going to throw something out there. You've been equally tough on every single Wings player since I've been on these boards. I've heard you criticize Dats when he hadn't shown up for the playoffs, when Z slumped for a while, even Lidstrom when he didn't play to his potential. I admire that, and I try to do the same and be imartial with the players I "like" the most on the Wings. That being said, I've never once heard you be tough on Ozzie, rather I've only heard you make excuses when he's playing mediocre at a given time. I've read your posts stating our best players need to be our best players and that they shouldn't have immunity, however whenever the conversation is about Ozzie you defend blindly regardless of level of play. To me, that's just hypocritical on your part. It's great that you don't give any Wings skater a pass, so why does Ozzie get one?

[Guest mindfly]

Nope, I'm stuck with red wings til death do us apart no matter how it goes, a captain never jumps the ship right Then again I was born during the hard times in the 80's and i started supporting wings in 97 and they had aleady started their winning back then so i wouldn't know how it feels to lose 80% of the games...Still.. You don't change teams just like that you stick to them, that's the bottom line.

oh and Btw I have a signed Joe Sakic jersey hanging in the closet Doesn't make me a avs fan...

Edited October 29, 2009 by mindfly

[Doggy 130]

With the way Osgood has been playing thus far red wings might not even make the playoffs (yes it's true) so it would be a huge embarassment if that happens... so he must play solid during regular season.

This just isn't true mindfly. You really need to learn more about the game so you can interpret it better. Keep watching kiddo.

Mac, I wasn't really referring to you as an Ozzie-basher I shoulda made that more clear. What I wanted to say to you was that he's really only done it once, so I think he's yet to earn a rep as a coaster in the regular season -- whether or not that's what you intended to say.

[T-Ruff 47]

i wonder who would get his house... its such a pretty thang! i would miss driving by it on the way home from work every day!!!!

I'm sure the house wouldn't be going anywhere

[Guest mindfly]

If I remember correctly you needed like 93 or 94pts to get into the playoffs last season

Osgood so far is 3-2-2, 8pts in 7games

Howard so far is 1-2-0, 2pts in 3games

I'm no math expert but if they would play exactly like this and osgood played 50games howard 32... would they get more than 94pts? Doubt it...

Edited October 29, 2009 by mindfly

[Doggy 130]

If I remember correctly you needed like 93 or 94pts to get into the playoffs last season

Osgood so far is 3-2-2, 6pts in 7games

Howard so far is 1-2-0, 2pts in 3games

I'm no math expert but if they would play exactly like this and osgood played 50games howard 32... would they get more than 94pts? Doubt it...

If I remember correctly, a hockey team has skaters too. As a matter of fact, I believe they have a lot more skaters than goalies.

[Guest mindfly]

If i remember correctly a team's skaters need their goaltenders to save a puck once in a while to increase the number in the win column...

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

This just isn't true mindfly. You really need to learn more about the game so you can interpret it better. Keep watching kiddo.

Mac, I wasn't really referring to you as an Ozzie-basher I shoulda made that more clear. What I wanted to say to you was that he's really only done it once, so I think he's yet to earn a rep as a coaster in the regular season -- whether or not that's what you intended to say.

Nor do I think he deserves that type of rep based on his overall career. My point is that Ozzie struggled last regular season all the way up to the final month. He's not playing as poorly as he did last regular season, but he certainly isn't playing at the level he has overall over the course of his career. Don't get me wrong, that could be due to his age, but that's hard to believe based on his post-season performances the past two years.

My point is that I guarantee Ozzie himself would say he's not playing at a level he's comfortable with right now. Yes, the season is early but IIRC Oz himself stated he wasn't very focused last regular season after the long cup run and that it wouldn't happen again. So far, it may not be as bad but it's not at a level *I think* is fair to expect Oz to play at.

[Doggy 130]

If i remember correctly a team's skaters need their goaltenders to save a puck once in a while to increase the number in the win column...

Gees you mustn't have watched many game this season then.

[Guest mindfly]

Gees you mustn't have watched many game this season then.

Watched them all, plus 15-20 of other teams games. My dear Aussi friend.........

[Doggy 130]

Watched them all, plus 15-20 of other teams games. My dear Aussi friend.........

Not intently enough, kid. You demonstrate zero understanding of what is going on out there if you blame Ozzie for our losses. Actually, you just demonstrate zero understanding of the game in general. You think offside in hockey is like in soccer.

[Guest mindfly]

What is soccer?

Osgood's softies has lost 1-2 games just by himself, if you can't accept that then you're a homer'ish tool.

Edited October 29, 2009 by mindfly

[Doggy 130]

What is soccer?

Osgood's softies has lost a few games just by himself, if you can't accept that then you're a homer'ish tool.

Ah yes. A few games perhaps. But not every game as you suggested earlier.

He's also won us a few. Washington and Chicago were games where he played very well against very good teams we could easily have lost to.

This time last year you saw none of that s***. You're just the typical emo crybaby kid who only remembers what happened in the last few days.

[Guest mindfly]

No against washington and chicago he played like any nhl worthy goaltender, stopping the pucks you're suppose to stop nothing more nothing less...

[HOCKEY MATTERS 167]

Ozzie hasn't been playing all that bad lately. Except that 5 hole. When did that thing come unbuttoned? Close the 5 hole and all is well.

[Doc Holiday 0]

No against washington and chicago he played like any nhl worthy goaltender, stopping the pucks you're suppose to stop nothing more nothing less...

He has a point, guys.