10/27 GDT: Red Wings 5 at Canucks 4

[Doggy 130]

He has a point, guys.

Haha that was exactly what I had in mind as I read his response.

Mindfly = destroyed..... again.

[Z and D for the C 712]

OsGod, I'm going to throw something out there. You've been equally tough on every single Wings player since I've been on these boards. I've heard you criticize Dats when he hadn't shown up for the playoffs, when Z slumped for a while, even Lidstrom when he didn't play to his potential. I admire that, and I try to do the same and be imartial with the players I "like" the most on the Wings. That being said, I've never once heard you be tough on Ozzie, rather I've only heard you make excuses when he's playing mediocre at a given time. I've read your posts stating our best players need to be our best players and that they shouldn't have immunity, however whenever the conversation is about Ozzie you defend blindly regardless of level of play. To me, that's just hypocritical on your part. It's great that you don't give any Wings skater a pass, so why does Ozzie get one?

This doesn't actually surprise you, does it? According to OsGod, Osgood should win the Vezina, Hart, Lester B Pearson, Norris and Art Ross every season and is the only player who doesn't suck.

[Doc Holiday 0]

This doesn't actually surprise you, does it? According to OsGod, Osgood should win the Vezina, Hart, Lester B Pearson, Norris and Art Ross every season and is the only player who doesn't suck.

I haven't seen him make any post that says that.

But please, just make gross over-exaggerations when someone seems biased against your opinions.

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

This doesn't actually surprise you, does it? According to OsGod, Osgood should win the Vezina, Hart, Lester B Pearson, Norris and Art Ross every season and is the only player who doesn't suck.

No, it doesn't surprise me that he's defending Ozzie...which is why I posed the question to him (which I'm still awaiting a response).

[Guest mindfly]

He has a point, guys.

Awful defensive play by Ericsson and a panic save by osgood, pretty nice one but more luck.. i'm sure anderson and miller would have saved it too.

[Doggy 130]

Awful defensive play by Ericsson and a panic save by osgood, pretty nice one but more luck.. i'm sure anderson and miller would have saved it too.

Anderson and Miller? Why? Because they're at the top of goalie stats so far this season? You need a new source of opinion, child.

[Guest mindfly]

No because they are very good goaltenders unlike Osgood.

[Dynheart 42]

I feel bad for Ozzie, hell, any red wing goalie for that matter. The fans act like they know how to play better than an NHL goaltender...Just in case you prople haven't noticed, but scoring has gone UP, yes up. You want more goals but want the goalies to stop them all at the same time? You guys make no sense.

As far as Ozzie's play this year, he's been much better than last year. He's had 2 bad games, 2 stellar games and the rest were just solid goaltending. What escapes me is how you all can sit here and put a loss on the goaltender (last game would have been the exception if we lost) but I've seen Ozzie make 3-4 shots back to back several times a game...in the 3rd...to win a game, or take into OT...and it's his fault we lose? I thought it was the defense' job to make sure they get one shot and one shot only, not 3, 4 or 5 shots in a 20 second period. Also, isn't it the shooters job to score? Works both ways.

Imo, Overall Ozzie has been solid. 2 bad games his first game and his last game so far. But he's getting old, and I don't care what people say...hockey is prolly the most taxing sport there is, let alone the goalie postion (which experts say is most likley the toughest postion to play in pro sports, hockey goaltending is)...We should be giving him props for making saves like the one on OV, or the back to back saves in Chicago at his age.

Lastly, to all the people who say OMG he sucks look at Broduer, Roy and Luongo they don't suck (look at the friggin goalies you are comparing Ozzie to...compliment???). These are elites...they are called that for a reason. If everyone was elite, then there wouldn't be Sawchuck, or Gordie or Gretzky...they would be just solid players like the rest...Like I said before, in other posts, to 99% of the fanbase thinks we lose because of Ozzie (any red wing goalie really), and win in spite of him. If we win "it's a team sport", if we lose "ozzie sucks". If you ask me, this fan base has gone down hill and might as well join the canadian teams (no offense canadiens, but you guys are very harsh on your teams players) and bash every player, hell, why not boo them in your own rink on national television!

EDIT: Mindfly, pretty much the entire red wing org, hell, pretty much the entire NHL recognizes Osgood as being a great/clutch goaltender. He's a Play-off goalie to boot...I think they know much more than you considering they actually play/played the game. He's going through a bad era atm (prolly age is finally catching up). But he's not in top 10 wins because of the wings...even conklin said the media needed to back off and didn't know what they were talking about. And he was right, Ozzie nearly took the wings to a back to back cup.

Edited October 29, 2009 by Dynheart

[newfy 695]

Right now ozzie is a terrible goalie, just like last season. We'll let him make up for it in playoffs but noone can deny that Osgood is a terrible reg. season goalie.

[Dynheart 42]

Right now ozzie is a terrible goalie, just like last season. We'll let him make up for it in playoffs but noone can deny that Osgood is a terrible reg. season goalie.

Why? Because he had 1 bad season...which was last season? He's been solid through out his career, a couple downer seasons, but that's it. Even the great Brodeur has a few bad seasons under his belt...and look at Ward after he won the cup....And look at the great Luongo now...

[gcdc14 6]

Ovechkin shot the puck right back into Ozzy there. That was a solid save, but nothing amazing. If Ovy would of put the puck on any part of the far side, or even in the middle of the net that would have been in.

The last game in Vancouver could of easily been a 5-2 game in the wings favor.

[Doggy 130]

No because they are very good goaltenders unlike Osgood.

Okay. So to you, 2 weeks of form is a better way to judge an athlete's skills and abilities than 13 years. This is why you're a complete moron and no-one has any respect for your opinion.

[Doggy 130]

Right now ozzie is a terrible goalie, just like last season. We'll let him make up for it in playoffs but noone can deny that Osgood is a terrible reg. season goalie.

For the past 12 months this has been true. For the past 12 years prior, the opposite is true.

What's the better sample group?

[Guest mindfly]

Okay. So to you, 2 weeks of form is a better way to judge an athlete's skills and abilities than 13 years. This is why you're a complete moron and no-one has any respect for your opinion.

Miller has been great for so several years and should have been nominated for vezina at some point, anderson has been great since last season, those were just two goalies, there are a whole bunch who are better than osgood...FYI I don't care if you don't respect my opinion.

[Z and D for the C 712]

I haven't seen him make any post that says that.

But please, just make gross over-exaggerations when someone seems biased against your opinions.

Well, I guess you didn't get here until after the Hasek/Osgood spectacles (do you actually think OsGod was saying things like "oh well the regular season doesn't matter" when Hasek was struggling?). Consider yourself lucky. But trust me, OsGod doesn't just seem biased, he is the definition and epitome of epitomes of biased. So yeah, I will just continue to make gross over-exaggerations, thanks for the advice.

His posts in this thread alone is enough to see how biased he is.

No, it doesn't surprise me that he's defending Ozzie...which is why I posed the question to him (which I'm still awaiting a response).

Well I was talking more about his hysterically hypocritical viewpoint than just defending Ozzie....and you won't get an answer to the question.

Edited October 29, 2009 by Z and D for the C

[Xitium 272]

I was very happy to see the Wings comeback and win after the "Detroit Sucks" chants in Vancouver.

[Viking_Erection 1]

I was very happy to see the Wings comeback and win after the "Detroit Sucks" chants in Vancouver.

^This x2. Plus the fact that Howard got it done. Come into the game and won while 2 in he hole.

Edited October 29, 2009 by Viking_Erection

[Doggy 130]

Miller has been great for so several years and should have been nominated for vezina at some point, anderson has been great since last season, those were just two goalies, there are a whole bunch who are better than osgood...FYI I don't care if you don't respect my opinion.

Why should he have been nominated for a Vezina? I'd love to hear how you could make an argument that he was top 3 NHL goalie once in his career.

And Anderson... I'm not even sure where to begin with this. I think I'll keep it simple. Osgood has more career shutouts than Anderson has wins. He's been a career backup until this season. If you knew anything about hockey, you'd know that.

[Guest mindfly]

That's because he has had an awesome wings team in front of him most years, get real.

Edited October 29, 2009 by mindfly

[Viking_Erection 1]

That's because he has had an awesome wings team in front of him most years, get real.

And he had an awesome team in front of him when he was kicking ass with the Blues and the Islanders?

He posted 6 shutouts with the Islanders and 5 shutouts with the blues with a 2.24 gaa before coming back to the Wings.

[Doggy 130]

That's because he has had an awesome wings team in front of him most years, get real.

Clueless.

[GoWings1905 2,694]

No because they are very good goaltenders unlike Osgood.

Craig Anderson is better than Chris Osgood?

Thanks for the laugh, dude.

[Viking_Erection 1]

rock

[Guest mindfly]

Yeah craig anderson is a better goalie and a straight off trade; osgood to avs for anderson would have been huge for this team, a goalie that could stop the pucks during the regular season as well

Edited October 29, 2009 by mindfly

[GoWings1905 2,694]

Yeah craig anderson is a better goalie and a straight off trade; osgood to avs for anderson would do this team alot and would get alot more wins.

You have to be kidding. Craig Anderson has never played a minute of playoff hockey in his NHL career. I can't believe how completely short-term your opinions are. Craig Anderson is not, nor will ever be a better goalie than Chris Osgood. Jumping to that conclusion from a 13-game sample size is absurd.

Edited October 29, 2009 by GoWings1905