stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted November 6, 2009 Do they send him back down and risk him being claimed, or do they FINALLY ship Lebda or Meech out of town (which the need to do anyway) carry Janik as the 7th and wait until Lilja is back to make a further decision? Also, I understand everyone is healthy now, but I'd really like to see him get a few games in with Ericsson with Meech and Lebda being the scratches... I think he has the demeanor to play well alongside E and looked good in his one game of action and at least deserves a couple more looks... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_redwing 495 Report post Posted November 6, 2009 (edited) Janik was sent down days ago. Hes playing for Grand Rapids tonight. Edited November 6, 2009 by uk_redwing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted November 6, 2009 Janik was sent down days ago. Hes playing for Grand Rapids tonight. I didn't see that anywhere - thanks for the update! well, that pretty much renders this thread useless, haha I'm kinda surprised no one put in a claim on him... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Four Report post Posted November 6, 2009 Our brass in sneaky, not letting anyone know of the send down Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PROBIE4PREZ 58 Report post Posted November 6, 2009 Wow I didnt even read anything about him being demoted already .. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zettie85 106 Report post Posted November 6, 2009 Is it not a 2 way deal anyways?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted November 6, 2009 Is it not a 2 way deal anyways?? 2 way deals have nothing to do with waiver eligibility, just the amount a player is paid depending where they are... waivers are dictated by age, number of games played, etc... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted November 6, 2009 Is it not a 2 way deal anyways?? I assumed it was. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted November 6, 2009 Our brass in sneaky, not letting anyone know of the send down sneaky, sneaky Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted November 6, 2009 (edited) I assumed it was. 2 way deals have nothing to do with waiver eligibility, just the amount a player is paid depending where they are... waivers are dictated by age, number of games played, etc... http://www.nhlscap.com/waivers.htm Edited November 6, 2009 by stevkrause Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted November 6, 2009 He's a puddler, no one is gonna put in a claim for him. I like him, but lets be honest here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted November 6, 2009 He's a puddler, no one is gonna put in a claim for him. I like him, but lets be honest here. there are a ton of teams riddled with injuries on the back end right now that could use a solid stay at home d-man - I'm not saying I'm blown away that it DIDN'T happen, but I'm a little surprised... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zettie85 106 Report post Posted November 6, 2009 http://www.nhlscap.com/waivers.htm Thanks dude. I never about that. Learn something new everyday i guess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MacK_Attack 108 Report post Posted November 6, 2009 Janik was an emergency call-up, meaning he could be sent down without waivers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zettie85 106 Report post Posted November 6, 2009 So is Janik not subject to re-entry??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MacK_Attack 108 Report post Posted November 6, 2009 So is Janik not subject to re-entry??? Yes, he is. However, any player can be called up from the AHL on an emergency basis, which bypasses re-entry waivers. Emergency recall allows a team to temporarily recall a player to replace an injured player, however that player has to be returned, without waivers, to AHL/ECHL as soon as the injured player(s) return. If a team chooses to keep that player that they recalled on emergency, they would then have to put that player on re-entry waivers - if the player requires it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zettie85 106 Report post Posted November 6, 2009 Yes, he is. However, any player can be called up from the AHL on an emergency basis, which bypasses re-entry waivers. Emergency recall allows a team to temporarily recall a player to replace an injured player, however that player has to be returned, without waivers, to AHL/ECHL as soon as the injured player(s) return. If a team chooses to keep that player that they recalled on emergency, they would then have to put that player on re-entry waivers - if the player requires it. I see. Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted November 6, 2009 Yes, he is. However, any player can be called up from the AHL on an emergency basis, which bypasses re-entry waivers. Emergency recall allows a team to temporarily recall a player to replace an injured player, however that player has to be returned, without waivers, to AHL/ECHL as soon as the injured player(s) return. If a team chooses to keep that player that they recalled on emergency, they would then have to put that player on re-entry waivers - if the player requires it. ahhhh... I didn't realize it was an emergency call up... that explains it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dobbles 252 Report post Posted November 6, 2009 i gotta agree with detroit #1 fan, who is going to put a claim on janik? though teams might have injuries, i am sure most all of them have guys they would rather bring up than bring in a guy that looks to be turning into a career minor leaguer. re-entry waivers are always nice as then you get out of half the salary, but i still doubt he would attract much attention there. as mentioned, the emergency callup rules negate and waiver worries this week, but i think they could send him through waivers with no worries as the season goes on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GROwl 5 Report post Posted November 6, 2009 (edited) Actually, I don't think Janik is subject to re-entry waivers even in an non-emergency recall situation. A player's AHL salary must be more than a hundred grand to be subject to them. Most 2-way player's AHL salary is less than that. Its mainly when a one-way player is sent down and then gets called back up that he has to go through re-entry. That the 50% deal (100% on the way down, but the acquiring club only gets hit for 50% of the salary if the guy is on the way up). That's how Dallas was finally able to dump Sean Avery. No one was interested for 100% of his contract when he was sent down. However, the Rangers had some interest at 50% and picked him up after being in the AHL for the minimum 2 weeks as agreed. Dallas is stuck with the remaining 50% for the rest of his contract. ps: Janik being sent down on Wednesday was in the GR Press and I received an email alert from the Griffins, so I don't think it was any big secret! Edited November 6, 2009 by GROwl Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MacK_Attack 108 Report post Posted November 6, 2009 Actually, I don't think Janik is subject to re-entry waivers even in an non-emergency recall situation. A player's AHL salary must be more than a hundred grand to be subject to them. Most 2-way player's AHL salary is less than that. Its mainly when a one-way player is sent down and then gets called back up that he has to go through re-entry. That the 50% deal (100% on the way down, but the acquiring club only gets hit for 50% of the salary if the guy is on the way up). That's how Dallas was finally able to dump Sean Avery. No one was interested for 100% of his contract when he was sent down. However, the Rangers had some interest at 50% and picked him up after being in the AHL for the minimum 2 weeks as agreed. Dallas is stuck with the remaining 50% for the rest of his contract. ps: Janik being sent down on Wednesday was in the GR Press and I received an email alert from the Griffins, so I don't think it was any big secret! Janik makes $105,000 in the AHL, making him require re-entry waivers to be recalled on a full-time basis. http://www.capgeek.com/players/display.php...45066&pos=D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted November 6, 2009 Yes, he is. However, any player can be called up from the AHL on an emergency basis, which bypasses re-entry waivers. Emergency recall allows a team to temporarily recall a player to replace an injured player, however that player has to be returned, without waivers, to AHL/ECHL as soon as the injured player(s) return. If a team chooses to keep that player that they recalled on emergency, they would then have to put that player on re-entry waivers - if the player requires it. Thanks MacK. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Mule 0 Report post Posted November 6, 2009 Janik impressed me against the Bruins. Despite the limited ice-time he was given, I noticed he was very positionally sound, and he was making short, crisp passes to get the puck out of the zone. If Holland and company weren't so high on Meech and Lebda, I would have liked to have sees Dougie in a couple more games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GROwl 5 Report post Posted November 7, 2009 Janik makes $105,000 in the AHL, making him require re-entry waivers to be recalled on a full-time basis. http://www.capgeek.com/players/display.php...45066&pos=D I apologize. The CBA raised the ceiling from $100,000 to $105,000 this year. So, Janik is still exempt from re-entry waivers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites