Salviaman 104 Report post Posted February 26, 2011 http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=6158542 Marco Sturm of the Los Angeles Kings, Nick Boynton of the Chicago Blackhawks, Wade Belak of the Nashville Predators, Kris Newbury of the New York Rangers and Todd Ford of the Washington Capitals were placed on waivers Friday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MacK_Attack 108 Report post Posted February 26, 2011 Sturm claimed by Washington, Boynton claimed by Philly, Rivet claimed by Columbus. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e_prime 1,936 Report post Posted February 26, 2011 Guys who cleared waivers: Newbury (NYR), Commodore (CBJ, re-entry), Ford (WAS), Belak (NSH) Today's waivers: Ty Conklin (STL), Curtis McElhinney (TB), Tim Stapleton (ATL), Brett Carson (CAR), Jason Jaffray (ANA), D.J.King (WAS), Nathan Lawson (NYI), Rob Schremp (NYI), Pascal Leclaire (OTT) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Majsheppard 203 Report post Posted February 26, 2011 Guys who cleared waivers: Newbury (NYR), Commodore (CBJ, re-entry), Ford (WAS), Belak (NSH) Today's waivers: Ty Conklin (STL), Curtis McElhinney (TB), Tim Stapleton (ATL), Brett Carson (CAR), Jason Jaffray (ANA), D.J.King (WAS), Nathan Lawson (NYI), Rob Schremp (NYI), Pascal Leclaire (OTT) Ty isn't coming here. I am really confused though... Why get rid of Dan for McElhinney and then put him on waivers... unless Steve wants cap to make a bigger move... Maybe Ty will be a bolt soon. I would have picked up Commodore at half price if I had the cap room. For about 1.8 that would have been a great depth guy for a run. As for Sturm... it just blows my mind how these contracts are becoming so double edged. It seems trades are being completed, in spite of no one having cap room because of this loophole. I have to imagine the next CBA is going to have a better buyout system and/or a penalty for stashing guys in the AHL. And once again Chicago is bailed out by waivers... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e_prime 1,936 Report post Posted February 26, 2011 (edited) Ty isn't coming here. I am really confused though... Why get rid of Dan for McElhinney and then put him on waivers... unless Steve wants cap to make a bigger move... Maybe Ty will be a bolt soon. I would have picked up Commodore at half price if I had the cap room. For about 1.8 that would have been a great depth guy for a run. As for Sturm... it just blows my mind how these contracts are becoming so double edged. It seems trades are being completed, in spite of no one having cap room because of this loophole. I have to imagine the next CBA is going to have a better buyout system and/or a penalty for stashing guys in the AHL. And once again Chicago is bailed out by waivers... Just bolded Ty to give the dreamers their dream. I think it's going to be Rolly/Smith in TB. Smith has been recalled and made it through waivers. ...and I agree with the new CBA NEEDING a better buyout, penalty for stashing, and waiver system. Edited February 26, 2011 by e_prime Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Majsheppard 203 Report post Posted February 26, 2011 Just bolded Ty to give the dreamers their dream. I think it's going to be Rolly/Smith in TB. Smith has been recalled and made it through waivers. ...and I agree with the new CBA NEEDING a better buyout, penalty for stashing, and waiver system. Clearly Osgood is the guy, and it sounds like he might be better than the last couple of years due to the extent of the injuries repaired. That is a far better dream IMO anyways! Smith has always impressed upon me pure mediocre play. The way Yzerman has been working, I wouldn't be at all surprised if he tries to improve the team more by picking up Ty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edicius 3,269 Report post Posted February 26, 2011 I hope Yzerman picks up Conks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MacK_Attack 108 Report post Posted February 26, 2011 I hope Yzerman picks up Conks. He's got Roloson and Smith up, and there's no way McElhinney will be claimed, so I don't think he needs Conklin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e_prime 1,936 Report post Posted February 26, 2011 And once again Chicago is bailed out by waivers... CapGeek: With Boynton gone and Leddy in the minors, the Blackhawks can add close to $3m in cap hit(s) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Majsheppard 203 Report post Posted February 26, 2011 CapGeek: With Boynton gone and Leddy in the minors, the Blackhawks can add close to $3m in cap hit(s) Exactly, how the hell does that work?!? I hope that something is done to fix that loophole. I bet they do add someone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MacK_Attack 108 Report post Posted February 26, 2011 Exactly, how the hell does that work?!? I hope that something is done to fix that loophole. I bet they do add someone. It's not a loophole. It's math. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted February 26, 2011 I'm perfectly fine with the buyout system and the waiver/"stashing" thing. The buy out system punishes teams for poor cap management and the waiver/stashing thing works fine. You have to waive someone first to "stash them" then re-entry waiver them to "un-stash them". Or are you saying, players on one-way contracts in the minors should count against the cap no matter what? Exactly, how the hell does that work?!? I hope that something is done to fix that loophole. I bet they do add someone. There is no loophole... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Majsheppard 203 Report post Posted February 26, 2011 (edited) It's not a loophole. It's math. It is a loophole because they can undo their cap mistakes. I understand that there is nothing wrong with it in the rules, and it is an okay waiver claim and everything. Just something about it makes me feel uneasy. It is a way to get out of their contracts they made. It isn't the worst thing in the world, but it makes me feel worse about the process of building a team when you can just waive players like that. I actually hope they amend the rules so you would always still have some of their salary on your payroll. Maybe something like 20%. That is math I could get behind. Also, just want to make it clear I am not fighting with you. You are right of course, I just am getting sick of seeing all this waving of players. To allow teams to play hopscotch with the cap. Not really a loophole in the sense of cheating or anything. But a loophole in the sense of getting a do-over with your money. Like a tax credit... It bugs me more when the players just sit in the AHL. When they get claimed it isn't really a big deal to me. Strum will most likely just sit in Manchester until the playoffs and then come back to the team. That is a loophole imo. EDIT: I missed that Strum was claimed. I don't get how that helps Washington, unless Semin is on the market... Edited February 26, 2011 by Majsheppard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted February 26, 2011 You know what solves this problem? No signing every player to 38 year, 1 trillion dollar contracts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted February 26, 2011 It is a loophole because they can undo their cap mistakes. I understand that there is nothing wrong with it in the rules, and it is an okay waiver claim and everything. Just something about it makes me feel uneasy. It is a way to get out of their contracts they made. It isn't the worst thing in the world, but it makes me feel worse about the process of building a team when you can just waive players like that. I actually hope they amend the rules so you would always still have some of their salary on your payroll. Maybe something like 20%. That is math I could get behind. Also, just want to make it clear I am not fighting with you. You are right of course, I just am getting sick of seeing all this waving of players. To allow teams to play hopscotch with the cap. Not really a loophole in the sense of cheating or anything. But a loophole in the sense of getting a do-over with your money. Like a tax credit... It bugs me more when the players just sit in the AHL. When they get claimed it isn't really a big deal to me. Strum will most likely just sit in Manchester until the playoffs and then come back to the team. That is a loophole imo. EDIT: I missed that Strum was claimed. I don't get how that helps Washington, unless Semin is on the market... Except he'd have to clear waivers and since he'd have no cap hit (there is no cap in the playoffs) I'm 100% certain another team would claim him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
