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#41 NvrFrgtRussian5

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Posted 26 September 2011 - 05:46 PM

Brunnstrom, Brunnstrom, Brunnstrom.


that is all.

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Posted 26 September 2011 - 10:07 PM

Brunnstrom, Brunnstrom, Brunnstrom.


that is all.



this.
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Posted 26 September 2011 - 11:31 PM

Eaves is more productive, and has significantly better offensive tools should the need arise for one of them to be promoted into a scoring role. Eaves is faster. The difference in their defense and PK is negligible. It's like comparing Draper and Maltby in 1999. Except Eaves has a cannon shot, and unlike the Draper/Maltby scenario, Eaves is easily a superior skater.

Miller is the most expendable regular roster player; he's a non-vital defensive specialist on a team which has two others currently in a checking role who are five years younger, as well as four top-six forwards who are better than Miller at all of his key skills. The only other Wing it could be said of is Emmerton, and he's not even a guarantee to make the team.


I am fully aware that Eaves is better offensively, but when both are putting up the same +/- and the same points, it's silly to think that one is more expendable than the other. I like Eaves more than Miller, but Miller is highly under-rated on this board since his beard and celebrations are not nearly as epic as Eaves' celebrations and beard. And as stated, Miller is a proven NHL player while Emmerton is not, and it also doesn't look that good for Emmerton as it is. So why is it that Miller would be the first to go automatically? If Miller's defense is only negligible over Eaves, then Eaves' skating ability is only negligible over Millers since I clearly remember more Miller break-a-ways than Eaves.
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Posted 26 September 2011 - 11:36 PM

No, I never said OVER Brunnstrom...if you read my post I said that Brunnustrom should be a lock now...AND that they will have to take a long look at Conner. Chris Conner had a very solid training camp and he is very similair to Miller with a bit more sandpaper.

I like Emmertons game and I really really like giving the young guys who have dedicated 4 years to GR a chance to make the big club... or at least have a shot. All i am saying is that Bruno is the guy to beat out of that spot, and Mursak would have taken the last spot. If Emmerton makes this team, its because Mursak unfortunately broke his ankle.....not because he truly earned it.


Mursak dedicated 4 years in GRap because the first couple years he was garbage, then he flipped the switch and we just didn't have anywhere to put him last year. Emmerton dedicated 4 years in GRap because he isn't as good as anyone on the roster and isn't showing much of any potential. If we are talking about guys who "dedicated" time in GRap, we never should have let Tardiff go or other fringe players.
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Posted 27 September 2011 - 07:38 AM

Jan

Detroit— The news on the injured Jan Mursak, the young forward who played well in a brief NHL stint with the Red Wings last year, got worse Monday, and there was a general sense in the dressing room the so-called hockey gods were particularly unkind to him.

Mursak suffered a broken ankle during an exhibition last weekend against the Blackhawks, catching it between his body and the boards as he slid with considerable force.

As television replays made clear, ankles are simply not intended to bend that way.

The Red Wings brass and players made plain that while they are disappointed because Mursak likely was to have a greater impact on the team than he had in 20 games in 2010-11, they are more concerned about the personal setback for a young player who was probably about to make his mark on the team.

"I'm disappointed for Jan because this was really his first chance," Holland said.

:( :(

Ken Holland: He’s (Mursak) a young guy, provides energy, can skate, he’s a puck hound.


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Posted 27 September 2011 - 02:52 PM

Posted Today, 12:36 AM

Motown4013, on 26 September 2011 - 06:28 PM, said:

No, I never said OVER Brunnstrom...if you read my post I said that Brunnustrom should be a lock now...AND that they will have to take a long look at Conner. Chris Conner had a very solid training camp and he is very similair to Miller with a bit more sandpaper.

I like Emmertons game and I really really like giving the young guys who have dedicated 4 years to GR a chance to make the big club... or at least have a shot. All i am saying is that Bruno is the guy to beat out of that spot, and Mursak would have taken the last spot. If Emmerton makes this team, its because Mursak unfortunately broke his ankle.....not because he truly earned it.




Mursak dedicated 4 years in GRap because the first couple years he was garbage, then he flipped the switch and we just didn't have anywhere to put him last year. Emmerton dedicated 4 years in GRap because he isn't as good as anyone on the roster and isn't showing much of any potential. If we are talking about guys who "dedicated" time in GRap, we never should have let Tardiff go or other fringe players.

So basically we are saying the same thing about Emmerton and Mursak...Except you liked Tardiff and well, I never saw his having NHL potential.
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Posted 27 September 2011 - 05:12 PM

Posted Today, 12:36 AM

Motown4013, on 26 September 2011 - 06:28 PM, said:

No, I never said OVER Brunnstrom...if you read my post I said that Brunnustrom should be a lock now...AND that they will have to take a long look at Conner. Chris Conner had a very solid training camp and he is very similair to Miller with a bit more sandpaper.

I like Emmertons game and I really really like giving the young guys who have dedicated 4 years to GR a chance to make the big club... or at least have a shot. All i am saying is that Bruno is the guy to beat out of that spot, and Mursak would have taken the last spot. If Emmerton makes this team, its because Mursak unfortunately broke his ankle.....not because he truly earned it.




Mursak dedicated 4 years in GRap because the first couple years he was garbage, then he flipped the switch and we just didn't have anywhere to put him last year. Emmerton dedicated 4 years in GRap because he isn't as good as anyone on the roster and isn't showing much of any potential. If we are talking about guys who "dedicated" time in GRap, we never should have let Tardiff go or other fringe players.

So basically we are saying the same thing about Emmerton and Mursak...Except you liked Tardiff and well, I never saw his having NHL potential.


Almostt. I like Mursak because he shows a lot of promise and brings things to the Wings that we don't have. You like Emmerton because you see something in his game you like and you like giving guys who spent years in GRap a chance to shine. Whereas I'm saying the reason Emmerton spent so much time in the minors is because he sucks, just like the other scrubs we had in the minors out of juniors and Emmerton is bascally a Miller-lite....and Miller Light is all sorts of nasty.

Edited by Konnan511, 27 September 2011 - 05:18 PM.

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Posted 27 September 2011 - 09:47 PM

2 spots ? is someone else out? I think Brunnstrom and either Emmerton or Conner


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Posted 28 September 2011 - 05:02 AM

Was I the only one who thought the push Mursak got was a little dangerous? You always hear about that type of dangerous play, even though they were at the goal line, that is what threw him off his balance and eventually into the boards.

No, you aren't the only one. It did seem a little questionable, depending on who 'had' the puck. On the one hand it should be fine to blast the guy with the puck off of the path toward the goal. On the other hand, they both seemed to be racing for a loose puck going toward the end boards. Within the new interpretation of the boarding rules it does seem a bit borderline to me, but after twenty plus years of watching I still have no damn idea what the hell the criteria are...

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Posted 28 September 2011 - 09:47 PM

Almostt. I like Mursak because he shows a lot of promise and brings things to the Wings that we don't have. You like Emmerton because you see something in his game you like and you like giving guys who spent years in GRap a chance to shine. Whereas I'm saying the reason Emmerton spent so much time in the minors is because he sucks, just like the other scrubs we had in the minors out of juniors and Emmerton is bascally a Miller-lite....and Miller Light is all sorts of nasty.


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Posted 29 September 2011 - 11:15 PM

Almostt. I like Mursak because he shows a lot of promise and brings things to the Wings that we don't have. You like Emmerton because you see something in his game you like and you like giving guys who spent years in GRap a chance to shine. Whereas I'm saying the reason Emmerton spent so much time in the minors is because he sucks, just like the other scrubs we had in the minors out of juniors and Emmerton is bascally a Miller-lite....and Miller Light is all sorts of nasty.

Then actually, we completely agree because I think ML is all sorts of nasty!!! :P
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