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#2429101 Players We've Traded Away

Posted by Serratoni on 09 July 2013 - 06:06 PM

March 5th, 1991:


to NYR:  Joe Kocur, Per Djoos


to DET:  Kevin Miller, Jim Cummins, Dennis Vial



damn we sure missed that Djoos guy! :D



edit: Although, we then traded Miller for Ciccarelli the following year, so all was good.


Didn't Djoos score 4-5 goals IN ONE GAME against the North Stars once?

I know his best seasons were with us, but I was sad to see Ysebaert go.  IIRC, we got Ward for him, though, so given his later production this actually turned out ok.

Chiasson for Vernon was a bummer at the time, but we all know how that one turned out.


On the subject of the Primeau trade, I was upset to see Coffey go.  I was a huge fan of his -- watching him and Nick hold the line on the PP was a thing of beauty.  Shanahan worked out pretty well for us, though ;)


I loved it when Primeau got traded. LOVED it. I guess I never got over the fact that we didn't take Jagr because of Petr Klima's troubles. When I think of Primeau on the ice, he's butt is wet from falling down so often trying to unsuccessfully split the defense. Off the ice, I can't forget the grown man COLLECTED MICKEY MOUSE FIGURINES.


Hated seeing Chiasson go too. I still fondly can hear, "Chaisson with a drive!" coming over my radio.

#2428844 Brunner Contract Talks

Posted by Serratoni on 08 July 2013 - 04:47 PM


Yzerman could barely get this team into the Playoffs for years until Fedorov (and Lidstrom) became Red Wings.  I'm in the even smaller camp of "2009 Hossa apologists", so I guess the pattern with me is that if you play hard as a Red Wing and aren't a total jerk about how you left, I don't carry the hate.


You're conveniently overlooking the two consecutive seasons ('87 & '88) in which the Wings played Edmonton in the Campbell (Western) Conference Finals.

#2425585 Help on "D" - Kenny should be calling Boston

Posted by Serratoni on 03 July 2013 - 07:42 PM

Kronwall - Boychuk

DeKe - Smith

E - Kindl/Q



Your thoughts?


Egads, I seriously hope you don't consider Kindl & Q to be equals or worse than Smith at this point. Kindl is superior to them both.

#2425577 The Overreaction Thread

Posted by Serratoni on 03 July 2013 - 07:20 PM

Red Wings fans have to be the most spoiled fans in all of sport.


This statement has to be one of the most lazy, thoughtless cliches in all of sports fandom. Just because fans want their team to improve or because they criticize moves or the lack thereof does not make those fans "spoiled." It makes them passionate. That's the definition of being a fan.

#2423600 First Murph, now this!

Posted by Serratoni on 30 June 2013 - 11:09 AM

She is the best looking one. It's not the "Fox Sports Girls" it was "Lauren and Friends." Ah, well.

#2422524 Hindsight Drafting...

Posted by Serratoni on 26 June 2013 - 07:13 PM

What strikes me about most of these drafts is the high rate of failure. The NHL draft is really a crapshoot. So many players don't pan out. Others taken quite late (Dats, Z, and Big E) turn out to be NHL regulars or even crazy awesome.

#2410923 Red Wings don't belong in the same rink as the Hawks?

Posted by Serratoni on 24 May 2013 - 02:06 PM

Still one more game to win. In the immortal words of Han Solo: Great, kid! Don't get cocky.

#2386886 Bruins/Pens game tonight postponed

Posted by Serratoni on 20 April 2013 - 01:26 PM

Oh, man. I had hoped that a sports forum would save us from the internet's tinfoil hat crowd.

#2382820 Why do you cheer for the Red Wings?

Posted by Serratoni on 10 April 2013 - 04:57 PM

I unintentionally caught a playoffs game against the Blues in 1989 on channel 50. The Wings won and moved on to face the Oilers. Two games later, Yzerman returned from his awful knee injury and no one on Detroit skated like her did. I was sold.

#2382610 What are the odds of Datsyuk staying after next season?

Posted by Serratoni on 09 April 2013 - 08:41 PM

Regardless of whether he stays or leaves, he will always remain a Red Wings legend. People still wear Howe and Yzerman jerseys. They'll be wearing Datsyuk jerseys for decades to come too.

#2382356 Concerned - we might not make it in to the playoffs

Posted by Serratoni on 08 April 2013 - 10:08 PM

Who cares about embarrassing?  Since Holland is FINALLY suggesting that we're in a rebuild (only after missing out on Jagr I might add) we might as well think about the long term.  And in the long term missing the playoffs and getting the higher pick is probably better than making it, losing early, and getting the 20th overall or whatever it would be.  They don't play for bragging rights, they play to win the cup, and even if me make the playoffs we're likely not winning anything. 


Also, the fact that we're having this discussion is embarrassing no matter what happens with the playoffs.


First, I was responding to the poster (I quoted) who claimed it was embarrassing to make the playoffs and lose early. If you're offended by the term, take it up with him.


Second, I have confidence in the organization. The Wings don't need top 5 picks to find future stars or diamonds in the rough. They've proven this time and again for years.


Third, I just cannot support rooting against one's team. The players want to win. The ownership wants to win (and deserves the extra revenue from playoff games). The folks who work at the stadium want to win. *I* want them to win.


Fourth, I think the playoff streak is a bigger deal than many give it credit for. It would be sweet if the Wings could beat the Bruins record.

#2382289 Concerned - we might not make it in to the playoffs

Posted by Serratoni on 08 April 2013 - 03:54 PM

I'd hate for the streak to come to an end, but what really is gained by making the playoffs and embarrasingly being booted in the first round?  Maybe missing the playoffs would serve as an eye opener to Holland that his team really isn't all that good?  Maybe missing the playoffs lights a fire under his butt to make some real improvements to this team in the future?


"What is gained by making the playoff and embarrassingly being booted in the first round?" you ask.

Answer: Not being embarrassed by being booted BEFORE the playoffs begin.


I can't believe people actually think it's more embarrassing to make the playoffs and lose than to MISS the playoffs. Crazy!

#2382034 Anyone else liking the pre 2005 more?

Posted by Serratoni on 07 April 2013 - 02:49 PM

I am strongly in favor of the hard salary cap that the NHL runs.


I loathe the salary cap. Not only because it supposedly prevents the "buying championships" either. That tactic doesn't always or even usually work. The Wings didn't win every year and neither do the Yankees. To this point, neither have the Tigers.


The salary cap in hockey is a method to ensure competitiveness among teams that really should fold. It's a way to dictate to incompetent owners/front offices, to tell them how much they should spend on a team, on players, and how much to invest. The league has expanded into small/bad markets. The salary cap keeps those teams on the ice.


I don't want to see the NHL turn into the NBA where 2-3 players surrounded by scrubs can bring home a championship. But that seems like the way of the future. Teams will continue to pay top dollar for stars (Minnesota) and then fill their rosters with 3rd and 4th liners playing on the 2nd.

#2380687 Concerned - we might not make it in to the playoffs

Posted by Serratoni on 05 April 2013 - 09:27 AM

Rooting for one's team to lose says more about the fan than the team.

#2379168 Official NHL Trade Deadline thread

Posted by Serratoni on 03 April 2013 - 09:05 AM

The Wings are at least two top tier players--a top 6 forward and a top 4 (or 2!) defenseman--away from advancing deep into the playoffs this year. What do people seriously think the team has to offer to acquire those kinds of players?


I would hate to see the team mortgage the future for rental players.