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In Topic: Wings file for abitration with Peter Mrazek

06 July 2016 - 09:09 PM

I think he'll be awarded vaisilovskiy money. So if Holland is offering $4M+ he best take it or he'll find himself south of $4M. He has no water to tread when comparing himself to vaisilovskiy.

Vasilevsky hadn't played nearly as many games, and his stats are not vastly superior to Mrazek. I don't think he is a good comparable.


In Topic: Datsyuk Announcement to Officially Leave NHL

28 June 2016 - 07:57 PM

As long as his loved ones are within a 90 minute radius

I think you misunderstood my argument.

Here's what I am trying to say: Let's stipulate that Pavel wants to 1. Play in his home country 2. keep playing hockey even if he can't/doesn't want to paly at NHL level 3. Be closer to his family He has 3 possible choices: A. Play one more year in Detroit B, Play in St Petersburg C. Play in Ekaterinburg for much less money

Option A doesn't satisfy any of his desires Option B satisfies 1 and 2, but not so much 3, Option 3 satisfies all 3 of his goals. Pavel chooses Option B. That suggests to me that in his ranking of wants, want #3 is not very important, because he could have chosen Option C that meets all 3 requirements, but instead he chose option B that pays more but doesn't meet desire #3. Ergo, he prefers to make more money rather than being 2-3 hours closer to his family. Given this logical chain, I say that he is not motivated by family reasons as much as he is by the first 2 reasons. Therefore I dislike him saying that he wants to be closer to his family, when his behavior shows clearly that this is at best the 3rd reason in importance compared to playing in Russia and making most money he can get there.  

To illustrate my point: Suppose you went to the grocery store and saw apples and peaches sold for $1.99/lb You bought apples. If you then tell me that you like peaches better than apples, I will look into your shopping basket and know that you do not actually like peaches more than apples, because you could have bought peaches, but got apples instead.


In Topic: Datsyuk Announcement to Officially Leave NHL

28 June 2016 - 07:14 PM

Look at my previous post. I think family is a small factor. I think it was moreso because he wanted to play in his home country. Maybe he got sick of Detroit, Michigan? 

My reply was not meant for you. Rather for one of the previous posts. I tend to agree with you on this though


In Topic: Datsyuk Announcement to Officially Leave NHL

28 June 2016 - 06:39 PM

Time difference is a huge deal.  I don't know how often you've had to sit in a plane for 18 hours and then deal with the subsequent jet lag, but its def not worth it for a few days (and couple thousand bucks on a plane ticket).  I would also absolutely hate being limited to speaking with my loved ones to either 11pm or 8am (11pm here likely would be when she's in school, and 8am here he's likely getting ready or already at practice, so who knows if even those are an option).  You keep saying that you have nothing against Dats, but you're really coming off as a bitter fan, especially when you say things like "oh just call your daughter at 11pm here/9am there.  Its not onerous at all."

Look. I am from Siberia, and I have family there. I know exactly how flying there and back feels, and how to Skype with the time difference. It just requires some prior planning and it is NOT a big deal. Which is why I believe that this couldn't be a reason for moving from Detroit to St Peterburg. If he moved to Ekaterinburg, or, failing that, Magnitogorsk or Nizhny Novgorod or even Omsk, it would have made significant difference for family reasons. But moving to St Peterburg or Moscow doesn't improve things in that respect significantly, compared with being over here. Therefore, he is motivated in his decision not by family but by other things. So just say so, no reason to imply family hardship when you are not going to relieve it that much by moving. That is my only point. I don't like when public figures assume that the public is dumb and would eat up anything they say.


In Topic: Datsyuk Announcement to Officially Leave NHL

28 June 2016 - 06:30 PM

because jet lag is for pansies right? So you'd rather have his salary hit instead of freeing up that money to pursue other forwards?

I thought that the hypothetical here was that Datsyuk was out with an injury and went to see his family in Russia? Meaning out for more than a day or 2? In that case, you fly there, sleep for 6-8 hours and you are fine the next day. Spend a week in Russia, fly back, repeat. I have done it myself, it is not a big deal if you are going for more than a few days. I don't care about the salary cap hit at all. I doubt we will get Stamkos, and if we don't, then we are not going to get anyone better than Datsyuk would have been, even at his age. So it's a wash for me - having Datsyuk for one more year or getting tier 2 FA or 2 instead.